Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

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For all I care, divert all the water, and make Northern and Western India permanently water secure. Our farmers will become billionaires while the sorry inbreds on the other side of the border can drink each other's blood.

For short term atleast Chenab we can divert as much as we want in next few years rest in case pakis keep on indulging we can go for Jhelam …
 
For short term atleast Chenab we can divert as much as we want in next few years rest in case pakis keep on indulging we can go for Jhelam …

Ideally, Modi should try to build infrastructure on the Jhelum and Chenab for complete course diversion of both rivers in the next 4 years of his term. Before the 2029 elections, Pakistan will act up again because after this, NO ONE (internal opposition, internal and external state/non-state actors, and the West) wants Modi or a similar (RSS) person to become PM of India.
 
Ideally, Modi should try to build infrastructure on the Jhelum and Chenab for complete course diversion of both rivers in the next 4 years of his term. Before the 2029 elections, Pakistan will act up again because after this, NO ONE (internal opposition, internal and external state/non-state actors, and the West) wants Modi or a similar (RSS) person to become PM of India.

Almost all of water in Chenab is from Himachal the place of origin in Himachal, ideally the river can be diverted with in HP only, whatever water left can be stopped in Jammu …

Jhelum even the kashmiri mullas want more water for themselves then sending to thr biradars in porkistan, GOI can increase the capacity of dams and build sm canals within J&K
 
Almost all of water in Chenab is from Himachal the place of origin in Himachal, ideally the river can be diverted with in HP only, whatever water left can be stopped in Jammu …

Jhelum even the kashmiri mullas want more water for themselves then sending to thr biradars in porkistan, GOI can increase the capacity of dams and build sm canals within J&K
Not really have great Civil engineering knowledge but a big Tunnel / Canal -probably combination of underground pipeline + overhead canal having a reservoir/storage every 15 kms connecting all 6 rivers starting at Indus, Chenab , Jhelum , Ravi , satluj , Beas . Than Punjab will agree to complete SYL canal to transfer water to Yamuna and IG canal to Rajasthan

This will transfer as needed/desired water to full fill need of JK, Punjab, Haryana, Delhi, Rajasthan

This can be project of National and defense importance on line of Konkan railway , Delhi Metro corporation, can probably finish this in 10 years. Probably will be huge Financial cost as well which India can bear.

I also seen a "Khan sir" video where he explained Pakistan can bear cost of "sharda-Yamuna river link canal" (near Nepal border to Haryana border)- as that can full fill water need of North west India and in return porkis can keep using IWT water - that also make some sense.
 
When it comes to actual water diversion Chenab is the lowest hanging fruit. Chenab has a flow of around 32 BCM you can divert some 4-5 BCM by extending Ranbeer canal. If you build the proposed Chenab Ravi tunnel and divert water into Solang nalah that should be another 4-5 BCM. In total with both of these we can divert about 30% of Chenab’s water. But we would need more to completely deny Chenab’s water to Pakistan.

Another point to be noted is that for 4-5 BCM for the Solang nalah tunnel is actually the current proposal. We could see a possible increase in that if it is hydrologically possible.

Edit: yeah there is no clear answer about about how much water the tunnel would divert so it would only be known once the DPR is complete.
 
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While it's likely that several Pakistani jets were downed by us but downplayed to provide Pak with an off-ramp, I find it hard that a mid-air refueller was amongst them as such large debris would be nearly impossible to conceal. Somebody somewhere would have recorded a video if it was downed in a densely populated Pak province

i never really understood GoI's need to provide Pak an off-ramp. when you have the enemy by the balls, why provide him an escape route? not very characteristic of BJP/Doval

similarly, IAF is mum on PAF planes downed (even though they hinted at Pak Mirage) or their pilots captured/KIA (reqd by Geneva convention). no idea why

i can understand for a minute that GoI indeed bungled up the ceasefire and let go of a golden opportunity, but there is still some flesh that can be extracted from the pakis yet.


baffles me beyond end why our people suddenly got so muted with the de-escalation. what was the need to provide pak any shred of dignity? :frusty:
 
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i never really understood GoI's need to provide Pak an off-ramp. when you have the enemy by the balls, why provide him an escape route? not very characteristic of BJP/Doval

similarly, IAF is mum on PAF planes downed (even though they hinted at Pak Mirage) or their pilots captured/KIA (reqd by Geneva convention). no idea why

i can understand for a minute that GoI indeed bungled up the ceasefire and let go of a golden opportunity, but there is still some flesh that can be extracted from the pakis yet.


baffles me beyond end why our people suddenly got so muted with the de-escalation. what was the need to provide pak any shred of dignity? :frusty:

Because they want to go back to Ekanami and Dhandho and Manuphacturing after giving them a befitting beating.

A proper committed war to either defang them or Final Solution to the Pakistani problem will result in sanctions of overt or unstated variety, loss of investment, dhandho etc aside from the usual results of war like casualties and money being spent like flowing water.

My only problem with the cheese-fire is it was on Uncle Sam's terms, not Pakis coming on their knees and begging us for a ceasefire, which they would have after 3-4 days of intense operations.

Govt objective is to economy maxxx, their objective isn't to put an end to the Paki, or destroy their conventional capabilities in a war, Paki is just a gandu who does ungli to you, then you can't bear and give him a good thrashing, then you go back to your bijness, while he copes and seethes in poverty :pmegusta:
 
Because they want to go back to Ekanami and Dhandho and Manuphacturing after giving them a befitting beating.

A proper committed war to either defang them or Final Solution to the Pakistani problem will result in sanctions of overt or unstated variety, loss of investment, dhandho etc aside from the usual results of war like casualties and money being spent like flowing water.

My only problem with the cheese-fire is it was on Uncle Sam's terms, not Pakis coming on their knees and begging us for a ceasefire, which they would have after 3-4 days of intense operations.

Govt objective is to economy maxxx, their objective isn't to put an end to the Paki, or destroy their conventional capabilities in a war, Paki is just a gandu who does ungli to you, then you can't bear and give him a good thrashing, then you go back to your bijness, while he copes and seethes in poverty :pmegusta:
If the IAF was aware of likely ceasefire on 10th May afternoor

Why did it not go for Bholari type overkills

PAF Faisal , PAF Masroor , PAF Kamra

Many hangers with JF-17 , SAAB Erieye would have been ducks for back to back Brahmos/SCALP
 
Because they want to go back to Ekanami and Dhandho and Manuphacturing after giving them a befitting beating.

A proper committed war to either defang them or Final Solution to the Pakistani problem will result in sanctions of overt or unstated variety, loss of investment, dhandho etc aside from the usual results of war like casualties and money being spent like flowing water.

My only problem with the cheese-fire is it was on Uncle Sam's terms, not Pakis coming on their knees and begging us for a ceasefire, which they would have after 3-4 days of intense operations.

Govt objective is to economy maxxx, their objective isn't to put an end to the Paki, or destroy their conventional capabilities in a war, Paki is just a gandu who does ungli to you, then you can't bear and give him a good thrashing, then you go back to your bijness, while he copes and seethes in poverty :pmegusta:

Honestly, I agree with the guys who advocate for periodic limited scale gangbang of the pakroaches. Good for our forces, keeps them battle hardened, nice test for our weapons, will develop domestic MIC. Also, that bankrupt shithole just cannot afford a drawn out full scale war - which is why they will always beg for a ceasefire and we will come out unscathed/with very very limited losses.
 
If the IAF was aware of likely ceasefire on 10th May afternoor

Why did it not go for Bholari type overkills

PAF Faisal , PAF Masroor , PAF Kamra

Many hangers with JF-17 , SAAB Erieye would have been ducks for back to back Brahmos/SCALP
And A frog can’t tell when you slightly increase the temperature of the water one degree at a time
 
Honestly, I agree with the guys who advocate for periodic limited scale gangbang of the pakroaches. Good for our forces, keeps them battle hardened, nice test for our weapons, will develop domestic MIC. Also, that bankrupt shithole just cannot afford a drawn out full scale war - which is why they will always beg for a ceasefire and we will come out unscathed/with very very limited losses.

Yes, I think 4-5 years an explosive lesson needs to be taught to them to keep their memory fresh of what happens when they fuck with Bharat.

However we must build up for China and long war in general.

Basically

Committed war to handicap/finish them
>Unless they are deleted they will find a foreign sponsor to build them up, max will buy us 8-10 years
>We get all the thrash that proper war brings including btfo economy, btfo production sites, casualties etc

Bi-Decadal Pela -e- Paki
>Give them a good beating, showing them their place and wrecking some of their shit, Op Sindoor is good template
>We lose nothing much, ekanami, manuphacturing, investment etc continue to flow, Indians watch IPL in peace, pay their taxes etc
 
FINALLY... the # released for Paki losses.

Paki losses in a nutshell:-
  • 8 F-16s
  • 1 IL-78 Tanker
  • 1 ERIEYE
  • 2 HQ9 units
  • 4 Radars
  • 1 AEWC
  • 6 Bayraktar TB2
  • Bachi khuchi Izzat
Poor Pakis tried to hide their LOSSES by faking news of Indian jets down and all. So Pakis not only SUFFERED HUGE LOSSES in terms of terrorists/soldiers(about 200) but also loss in Billions. Kangali mei aata geela. :lol:

Super SHREWD and Cunning US tried to sponsor and support fake narrative of Pakis by saying Indian jets were down and all within few mins of Operation Sindoor!!! US can't tolerate their F-16 downed by Rafales/SU's so got nervous and peddled fake narrative through lot of Armchair Jarnail's analysis in youtube etc. It's all good since India wanted some SOLID excuse to REJECT the overpriced F-35. No wonder US allowed IMF loans to these BHIKHARIS.

Indian Military remained calm and provided all PROOF whereas Pakis relied on their Madrasa Chaap Jihadis with "Center of Gravity" 💩. So $3.3 Billion TEA WAS FANTASTIC!!! :tea:

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This asshole has some kind of a personal agenda against diplomats or Gov officials in general. Ignore him and his antics.
Jaishankar ya unke baccho ka nakhoon jitna aukaat nahi hai aur desh kaisa chalana hai sikhane chala hai Jaishankar ko. Rahul Gandhi ka chela sala @Sanglamorre
Ayy lmao right target has been hit. No matter what you say to anyone, babu ka betas will jump in because they know it's true.

I don't have agenda against government officials in general. Only against govt officials with foreign settled spawn that are used to squeeze their balls and extract advantages. Like Medha Jaishankar and Dhruva Jaishankar.

See, these two people.

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some-one said porkies export 12 billion usd high value drugs to whole world....so they can sustain the material loss,
we need to kill the trained pakjabi military humans too, that's the only upgradation that will be felt for 6 years to them....
we need to hit them to their illegal business around the world too...

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Dear all, new to DFB but was on DFI for several years.
Normally a guest on DFB but joined today.
Have a query.....carefully heard Mr Modi's speech today. All good but slightly confused about IWT.
He said.....we will not give water from "OUR SHARE" if pakistan continues with terrorism. The concept of share itself should be in a abeyance with IWT. Is it a suboptimal choice of words, or is there a chance that we have quietly gone back on IWT abeyance?
Please listen to the speech for exactly what he said before commenting.
Well, Paani rok denge makes for a great motivational sentiment but the public has to be aligned to ground realities.

Currently we can't exactly stop Pakistan's share of water. We can barely hold on to 100% of our share after a few years. When inevitably the water has to flow, the public will give another 'why did you ceasefire' flogging, so this is preempting this. This isn't however any sort of political machination, just setting expectations.

We will take a couple decades to build full capabilities to divert the water and still we can't do that to a large part of it. There will be famine and damage in porkland, but not armageddon level.
 
Ayy lmao right target has been hit. No matter what you say to anyone, babu ka betas will jump in because they know it's true.

I don't have agenda against government officials in general. Only against govt officials with foreign settled spawn that are used to squeeze their balls and extract advantages. Like Medha Jaishankar and Dhruva Jaishankar.

See, these two people.

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And you're back to square one. Dude, I've debunked your bullshit enough number of times now. I've never exerted any elitism, but in this context, you aren't worth a millionth of the people whose photos you have posted, or me, or even any other self-respecting gentlemanly citizen.
The best that people like you can do is try to insult the honest efforts of people better than you because you have nothing positive to add to the world or even your surroundings. You have been posting these same two photos from very early in the thread. You don't have a better argument, and therefore, you are having to peddle your same propaganda again and again.
Maybe you're not the one at fault here and are just a product of the bigoted section of the Indian society who suffer from the victim mentality of being "backwards" and therefore justify your rights to handouts.

Also, you as an outsider will NEVER understand the innards of how administration in India works and what the challenges are. Changes are happening, and every move of the GoI post Pahalgam is proof of that. I've seen enough corrupt and honest babus to know that they are titular figures holding offices. The strings are always controlled by the so-called democratically elected representatives. The problem is that they have to always be the people who enforce government policies and, therefore, become the villains in the public's eyes.

Let me give you and other members of this forum an anecdote. A lot of times, the "bribe" that you pay to a traffic havildar is never seen by the havildar himself. There are "quotas" that need to be met, enforced by senior officers whose job is on the line unless they fulfill their obligations to whoever influences that office. Now, hopefully all of you are smart enough to extrapolate this to higher echelons of the administrative framework.

Did you ever question why the Government has never changed the administration and bureaucracy frameworks? These are mere tools used to funnel taxpayer rupees into private Swiss bank accounts. The corrupt among the babus are the ones who have justified their actions to themselves because in their mind they deserve a share of whatever they're helping the politicians steal or the ones who lack a spine and do whatever the flying f*ck politicians ask of them without asking for written orders.

Gaand mein dum hai toh inke level pe pohoch aur kuch changes laa. Simple as that!
 
Ayy lmao right target has been hit. No matter what you say to anyone, babu ka betas will jump in because they know it's true.

I don't have agenda against government officials in general. Only against govt officials with foreign settled spawn that are used to squeeze their balls and extract advantages. Like Medha Jaishankar and Dhruva Jaishankar.

See, these two people.

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Are u retarded enough to think

Jaishankar or Mirsi is calling shots

And not Modi- Doval- Shah
 
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