Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

[FalconSlayers]

View: https://x.com/Goreunit/status/1926478838097215688

 

[Tumba]

View: https://x.com/Goreunit/status/1926478838097215688

Seems like a drone jammer, a just military target hopefully Indian Military is not this naive not to target these military systems fearing collateral damage, porki civilians are nothing but inbred jihadis who actively kill, rape minorities

 

[Muzh]

This is a great talk given by Lt General Raj Shukla. He mentions that Late PM Vajpayee later regretted not going to war with Pakistan after mobilizing Operation Parakram. He also describes the incremental change in our attitude towards Pakistanese sponsored terrorism. The conclusion is that Operation Sindhoor was basically a notice to Pakistan that going forward there will be heavy cost attached to any act of terrorism. He acknowledges that the Operation Sindhoor may not deter Pakistan's terror activities but it certainly adjusts what Pakistan should expect after committing terrorism.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_33vVKfjeM

 

[notaname]

Pakistan Crypto Council’s (PCC) Chief Executive Officer Bilal Bin Saqib meets Pakistan field Marshal Munir. Saqib's PCC in April signed a letter of intent with World Liberty Financial (Trump family backed crypto venture) in April.


View: https://x.com/sidhant/status/1926484032360989097?t=JCypzHl_5XTjUyXv-BaS_A&s=19

 

[RoaringTigerHiddenDragon]

What you said is logical but could've only been possible if the GoI was eager to get itself in an all out war, which I highly doubt. If that's what it wanted, we would've conducted SEAD/DEAD on May 7th followed by the actual missile attacks on terrorist installations and if the Pakis retaliated (they would have) we would've bombed their air bases like on May 10th but on a greater intensity with not just the runway but also aircrafts like what you suggested. It seems to me, that originally the GoI wanted a repeat of Balakot where we would've struck targets and they would've retaliated, both sides claiming victory and then ignoring each other for the next 6 years but that plan got de-railed with Porki reaction and had to improvize to get their DGMO to request a ceasefire and sell it as a win to Indians.

What actual war? Pakistanis have no money or resources to fight. Remember pizza bajwa who said they dont even have fuel for their tanks. Paapistan Army and failed machchal would have caved in and we could have either salami sliced or demanded other things that disarm porklund and made them ineffective to ever launch an attack again like handover of all terror bosses to us. Only loss of key assets will hurt porkis. Otherwise they are liars of the worst sort who will stab you again when your back is turned. Trust a venomous snake but never a porki poonjabi. We are making a big mistake by not pounding them into submission. We will see these napakis attack us again. Wait and watch.

 

[shitsandgiggles]

Either troll back or ignore..

They are trying to make indians mad. If you get mad you lose.

The reply should be to make them more mad. "We broke mosques and burned muslims inside" is a 100% hit rate for me, and now the kids being burned in balochistan is a good one.

Or no reply/no interaction at all.

Had misfortune of coming across one, just kept replying "ok paki", also short crisp replys work well,
> "5000 rafale down lollol"
>"11 airbases"

always be on offense dont even dignify their claims with retort.

Big twitter handles dont get it they fall for obvious engagement bait. The way to do it is to take a screenshot, and mock, they wont get engagement and it is safe if they later delete.

 

[Nicky]

You have brought to fore a very important power struggle that we are witnessing. Earlier, in this thread, I explained this power struggle using what I call the jungle analogy. Imagine this world is a jungle. In this jungle, there are four lions: India, Russia, China and USA. These four lions are locked in an intense power struggle.

Russia & China are firmly allied against USA. This puts US at disadvantage; it needs India on its side.

China and USA cooperate with each other against India. This puts India at disadvantage.

India & Russia are not allied against anyone but they help each other. This relationship acts as a safeguard, in case, something unexpected were to happen in this power struggle.

Here is USA's dilemma:
Let us assume for a second that India is out of the equation -- just hypothetically speaking. Now, USA is all alone against Russia & China. That is why, it is imperative to develop appreciation for the subtle difference between Chinese and American positions with respect to India. India and USA are locked in a situation that looks very much like game of chicken. USA is hoping, India will yield first. The short India - Pakistan military conflict that just concluded should be seen through this lens. That was the first pressure applied against India by USA. There will be more. If USA yields first, it will be literally a game changing event.

The main point is that the US would prefer it to be a unipolar world with it being the sole global power, which it was post collapse of the Soviet Union. If thats not possible it will settle for a bipolar world with China replacing the USSR.

The one thing it doesn't want at all costs is a multipolar world, which is what India symbolises. So it will work with China to cut India down to size and use Pokris to do that.

Ultimately, we have to guard against sabotage from both. Use Russian, France and Israel to plug the gaps in our military tech. It all boils down to a powerful engine that can power a 5th gen fighter jet. If we can manage that, we don't really need help with much else.

In all this, internal security is a big factor. We need to kick out lungis and keep local jehadis in check as well.

The US has proposed up Porkies since they were created by the British and the so called nukes are also given by Ameriki.


View: https://x.com/ssaratht/status/1926348872789406129?t=y7ut0fszhQmtEXtVOyWV5Q&s=19

 

[daya]

This is a great talk given by Lt General Raj Shukla. He mentions that Late PM Vajpayee later regretted not going to war with Pakistan after mobilizing Operation Parakram. He also describes the incremental change in our attitude towards Pakistanese sponsored terrorism. The conclusion is that Operation Sindhoor was basically a notice to Pakistan that going forward there will be heavy cost attached to any act of terrorism. He acknowledges that the Operation Sindhoor may not deter Pakistan's terror activities but it certainly adjusts what Pakistan should expect after committing terrorism.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_33vVKfjeM

This time the inaction (no further bombardment for another 3-4 days) will be regretted in future. Whatever be the reasons for de-escalation, but it was the high time to crush Pakistan for 20-30 years at least. We won't get the opportunity any more.

 

[daya]

What actual war? Pakistanis have no money or resources to fight. Remember pizza bajwa who said they dont even have fuel for their tanks. Paapistan Army and failed machchal would have caved in and we could have either salami sliced or demanded other things that disarm porklund and made them ineffective to ever launch an attack again like handover of all terror bosses to us. Only loss of key assets will hurt porkis. Otherwise they are liars of the worst sort who will stab you again when your back is turned. Trust a venomous snake but never a porki poonjabi. We are making a big mistake by not pounding them into submission. We will see these napakis attack us again. Wait and watch.

God's truth is this. The opportunity we got, lost forever. Be it 47, 65, 71, 99 or current scenario, it proves that we can not negotiate. Moreover, we can not counter the propaganda propagated against us. We decimated almost a dozen high value target deep in Pakistan, but in International arena, this will be reflected as a Truce. No win for India.

 

[Decahex]

What actual war? Pakistanis have no money or resources to fight. Remember pizza bajwa who said they dont even have fuel for their tanks. Paapistan Army and failed machchal would have caved in and we could have either salami sliced or demanded other things that disarm porklund and made them ineffective to ever launch an attack again like handover of all terror bosses to us. Only loss of key assets will hurt porkis. Otherwise they are liars of the worst sort who will stab you again when your back is turned. Trust a venomous snake but never a porki poonjabi. We are making a big mistake by not pounding them into submission. We will see these napakis attack us again. Wait and watch.

I'm telling you what's happening in reality but otherwise categorically agree with your points. I was quite furious when the government announced the ceasefire myself.

 

[Nicky]

It isn't as clear cut. Usa needs us to face off China, China needs to not push us totally into us pocket to stand a chance facing off against usa. This isn't an arch-enemy dynamic like we have between China and Taiwan or India and Pakistan, this is frenemies interaction between sides that fear each other but also need each other to a certain degree.

Sure, it's never simple and there are overlapping interests.

However, the US never really supported us against China. They won't unless we surrender and agree to become a vassal.

China doesn't want a competition in the region.

It's a balancing act but from our perspective, we don't want to be close to either G2 and develop our path as much as possible.

 

[ezsasa]

What you said is logical but could've only been possible if the GoI was eager to get itself in an all out war, which I highly doubt. If that's what it wanted, we would've conducted SEAD/DEAD on May 7th followed by the actual missile attacks on terrorist installations and if the Pakis retaliated (they would have) we would've bombed their air bases like on May 10th but on a greater intensity with not just the runway but also aircrafts like what you suggested. It seems to me, that originally the GoI wanted a repeat of Balakot where we would've struck targets and they would've retaliated, both sides claiming victory and then ignoring each other for the next 6 years but that plan got de-railed with Porki reaction and had to improvize to get their DGMO to request a ceasefire and sell it as a win to Indians.

at some point all these "would have" "could have" theoretical assumptions have to consciously fall back on reality checks for confirmation. reality check here is what has been stated and executed by the actual main players in the game, in this case the gormint and security forces. they checked almost every box, that security focussed intelligentsia of the country have been debating on.

we need to have clarity on what has been achieved:

- demonstrate that terrorism is the primary issue between India and pakistan.
- combat proven tag to many of the defence equipment
- raise the cost of an misadventure i.e deterrence
- demonstrate restraint factored into the operational planning
- find space for conventional deterrence, as a response to sub-conventional warfare imposed by paki army.
- find space for conventional retaliation under nuclear overhang.
- call out nuclear bluff
- let pakis know, pakjabi heartland is no longer out of bounds
- there is space for both kinetic and non-kinetic responses.
- remind pakis of their lack of strategic depth .
- erase the distinction between jihadis and their state sponsors.


if folks want to apply their mind, and add more chapters to the playbook, can use the above mentioned points as the new baseline and build on it. we also have to be careful not to over read the outcomes, beyond a point so much so that it blurs the lines between hallucinations and reality.

 

[cicada3307]

This is a great talk given by Lt General Raj Shukla. He mentions that Late PM Vajpayee later regretted not going to war with Pakistan after mobilizing Operation Parakram. He also describes the incremental change in our attitude towards Pakistanese sponsored terrorism. The conclusion is that Operation Sindhoor was basically a notice to Pakistan that going forward there will be heavy cost attached to any act of terrorism. He acknowledges that the Operation Sindhoor may not deter Pakistan's terror activities but it certainly adjusts what Pakistan should expect after committing terrorism.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_33vVKfjeM

As a matter of fact, I would be happy if an act of terrorism happens sooner than later. It might sound cruel and illogical but that is the only way forward for us to destroy the country called pakistan, split it into four pieces and make sure that it poses no further existential threat to us in future. Terrorism is rooted in the very veins of Pakistani Punjabi muslims, untill and unless we make them flee from from their land we will not be able to live in peace. For that we need to split them into 4, make them endlessly fight inbetween them for food, land and water.

 

[concard]

@Azaad You may be right. It is likely going to happen by 2030. And we are not prepared.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GJJVAQNOWM&ab_channel=CappyArmy

 

[Anants]

@Azaad You may be right. It is likely going to happen by 2030. And we are not prepared.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GJJVAQNOWM&ab_channel=CappyArmy

China is likely to first confront India. The way the USA intervened on behalf of Pakistan, and the speed with which it reached a tariff agreement with China, has given Beijing new confidence. China now believes that, aside from some material support and limited intelligence sharing, the US will not significantly intervene in an India-China conflict.

China may choose to engage India first to test its military capabilities and strategies. Tibet and the surrounding geography offer a strategic advantage for launching a short, quick conflict aimed at boosting domestic and international confidence.

But, we are not adequately prepared. Our military focus has remained too Pakistan-centric, and our response to China's moves has been as dismissive as Pakistan’s typical reactions to India. I'm not saying we can't take them on—I believe we can. But we are not preparing fast enough, largely because we don't believe a confrontation is imminent or their reponse is going to be anything different from Pakistan. That mindset needs to change, and urgently.

 

[Azaad]

@Azaad You may be right. It is likely going to happen by 2030. And we are not prepared.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GJJVAQNOWM&ab_channel=CappyArmy

It's imperative we de fang Paxtan , even accelerate the process of their disintegration before 2030.

Fortunately for us this is Fauji Foundation we're talking about , an organisation known to habitually miscalculate with disastrous results of which 1971 is only the most prominent example.

I'm expecting them to return before the year is out. This time , hopefully , Leaderji goes in for a de capitation strike , destroy or at any rate render their Nuke production , storage & deployment centers unusable & uninhabitable & does away completely with the PAF & PN .

We can then sit back & watch Paxtan implode courtesy all those terror groups they helped create directly or indirectly. Although this won't solve the Paxtan problem for us & create another set of problems , at least this will put an end to the first set of problems their existence created for us.

 

[fire starter]

Damages are very extensive.

No surprise porkis surrendered.




View: https://x.com/rajfortyseven/status/1922815827360776325?t=brW7kpEwOxi26d4bNXsmow&s=19


View: https://x.com/rajfortyseven/status/1926523771919138826?t=06gaG2OgwLXCE8OEYebUsA&s=19

 

[concard]

China is likely to first confront India. The way the USA intervened on behalf of Pakistan, and the speed with which it reached a tariff agreement with China, has given Beijing new confidence. China now believes that, aside from some material support and limited intelligence sharing, the US will not significantly intervene in an India-China conflict.

China may choose to engage India first to test its military capabilities and strategies. Tibet and the surrounding geography offer a strategic advantage for launching a short, quick conflict aimed at boosting domestic and international confidence.

But, we are not adequately prepared. Our military focus has remained too Pakistan-centric, and our response to China's moves has been as dismissive as Pakistan’s typical reactions to India. I'm not saying we can't take them on—I believe we can. But we are not preparing fast enough, largely because we don't believe a confrontation is imminent or their reponse is going to be anything different from Pakistan. That mindset needs to change, and urgently.

With respect to tariffs, Trump has paused for 90 days if I am right. There is no trade agreement which has been signed or agreed upon with US until now. Given the huge trade deficit US has with China more than anyone else, I don't see Trump agreeing to anything so quickly. Chinese did not follow through with the previous deal when Trump was in first term. It is unlikely there will be a breakthrough very soon between them.

The rest of your comment I fully agree. We have a haramkores as bureaucrats. These haramkores who have studied 10,000 pages of facts become bureaucrats and this filth run the country indirectly. American Universities employ wide range of specialists in every domain to help them understand many topics. Whereas here a scumbag politician delegates these tasks to a bureaucrat expecting magical solutions.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Need to create a compilation for this

View: https://x.com/Duorope/status/1926530521883959794

 

[Nicky]

Yes, as I said, neither side wants us to succeed, neither side wants to push us hard enough to fall into eithers lap or pull a total wildcard move like making a long term military alliance with russia, Ala 1971.
This is the calculus at play and it'd actually advantage to us, if we recognize the situation and have a clear foreign policy plan on it.

China has nothing to offer, the US won't offer without us sacrificing autonomy or with heavy restrictions like they tried to put when we went for S400.

Them raping or mutilating a serving line woman officer is like 100x worse optics to them than us, in the Western perception scale. That's the kind of News even CNN will cover on front page, coz muh feminism and patriarchy are bigger priority for news media than geopolitical interests.

Unlikely, Hamas still has positive feedback and many western governments back it, inspite of what they did on 7th October and then still keeping hostages.

Feminists will not decry Islam no matter what it does.