Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

[indrajit]

another interview, this time reuters.
repeated the same thing word to word, it's the official line.


View: https://youtu.be/XDVNUH09Hfw

No point in cribbing about Reuters and Bloomberg if they are your first choice for post conflict interviews.

 

[gokusan]

No point in cribbing about Reuters and Bloomberg if they are your first choice for post conflict interviews.

Exactly the problem with indian elite is crazy how come you go to the same fucking platform which wrote a propaganda piece in favour of China like seriously

 

[Master of Indus]

It's nothing to do with that Pakistan created propaganda around shooting down of our jets which our cds confirmed it now all the platforms like bloomberg who were without any credible info were running the propaganda of excellent performance of chinese weapons got full load of ammunition all thanks to cds and his office who couldn't vet media houses properly

Let's see, he is repeating this everywhere, so this could be the official statement/stand. I'm expecting damage assessment of the pakistani assets soon by the armed forces!

 

[MasterChief]

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CDS would not have given an interview with bloomberg and said what he said without Government approval..
Government wanted this in the open.. Let's see what the GOI intent is ..

 

[liberalredditor]

air vice marshal ak bharti and lt gen ghai were so much better in interacting with the media in both the languages, their aura, their language and being on point with the confidence and aura, -ve nervousness

and here

our honourable cds aka triforces babu

 

[indrajit]

He is not a fumbling.. looks like he has repeated this in multiple interviews:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDVNUH09Hfw

That means we are ok to disclose the details of operation now. Based on this following comes out:
1. Jets were downed due to tactical mistake
2. IAF assessed and rectified it quickly
3. next set of operations from 8th onwards they were able to operate with complete impunity

I think its time now IAF comes out with official statement with the details.. will establish further credibility.

The DGAO would have been a better choice to talk about this. Though this doesn't look like a decision taken by the CDS personally to talk, I'm not sure this was the right way to go about it. Not being clear about the nature of losses (once admitted) as well, as nature of the enemy losses is counterproductive. Vague comments will be misrepresented.

 

[Yuyutsu]

Speaks like a Grade A idiot. If this is the level of maturity of the CDS, we are done.

CDS position is literally given to people who are close to government , no merit ig. he talked how a porkie would do interviews , absolute no maturity.

these type of answers are good in SSB rounds when u are 18 , not when u are 62 and commanding 2 million+ strong defence force .

This is what I have been telling from a long time, friendly fire most likely occured, because Bathinda one was too far out to be engaged by Pak. Cannot confirm the tweet thoughView attachment 37936

first mi17 now this , nothing changed . next what , take down mudi's plane

 

[cicada3307]

No platform is invincible, ask USAF, they lost some top of line stealth platform to 3rd grade sam systems in the past. But does that mean it's going to happen every time? Obviously no. Mistakes happen, but it's about the ultimate result that's matter. As CDS rightly pointed out, if you can correct your mistakes and achieve your mission goals, it's the optimal outcome and if your dissatisfaction or disappointment is with regard to acceptance or non acceptance of our losses by our airforce, then one must understand the GOI has not declared the Op sindoor has ended. It's still on and if it's still on war is not over. Every bit of information about of our strength and weakness is might be important to our forces. So as a good citizen one might show restraint and patience and sync with what our government is doing right now.

 

[MasterChief]

Was nt it confirmed by IAF spokesperson statement that some jets went down . I don't remember particular line but he said something like -" asset loss happen in conflict , the point is we completed the mission and all our boys are back home" .

Read somewhere the pl15 was being guided by command center outside the operation theatre helped by awacs and chinese satellites . I ll post it if I find that exact article . That's why may be we destroyed their 3 command centers early along with the mobile command center and that awacs at bholari .

May be we ll know more if IAF come out with our losses and their's .. I don't think there is any need here to hide . It's just the loss of asset which happen in a conflict .And it matters less for a country having 100bl dollar budget . At the end of the day we completed the mission . They could nt stop us from bombing their terrorist head quarters in the middle of the city and their military base . Neither they could inflict any damage on ourside of military base .

IAF spokesperson didn't deny losses ..
CDS confirmed it..
I personally would like IAF to confirm the exact losses.. it prevents lots of good patriotic people both inside and outside the forum, and on social media, from staking their credibility on denying any IAF aircraft losses.. and then turn angry on the GOI, when eventually IAF acknowledges the exact losses.. because now they have mid on their faces, for saying IAF has 0 losses..

We already seen this happen going by RW meltdown on twitter..

 

[liberalredditor]

DGAO Air Vice Marshal AK Bharti ki jai

kab aaoge mere dgao sir, aapko bharat bulati hai

pls save us bhagwan, if babus like cds chauhan are there then surely we need better talent in nda and cds exams

 

[Degenarate]

What was the point of suddenly coming out with this info in the public domain by CDS, that too for a foreign rag? If GOI wants to disclose the losses let them do through a proper press conference like an after battle assessment. Also put forward the losses of your enemies with proof. Handle this in a proper professional manner, just like we did with the tri services press conference. And to top it all he doesn't give out the numbers and talks about tactical mistakes which we rectified in the latter days of the operation, all that again to a foreign rag.

You go to the length of sending all those parliamentary delegations to different countries but can't have a proper press meet if you want to put something out in the open? Absolutely mind boggling.

 

[Brood Father]

what should he have done when asked ?

Could have parroted our official position that Loses are part of conflict and we will release the loses when time is right
A simple statement like this could have been better
I am not concerned about loses .I am concerned about how these idiots speak out of turn like no PR training is given to them . These Genrools should not be allowed to interact with media at all .
How demoralizing is this for our forces
1 . We don't acknowledge loss for whatever reason
2. We double down that Ohh yuss we have lost the plane but it was due to tactics not enemy..duhh..

Which one is believable. If you don't come clean this time no one will believe a jack coming out of your mouth ..

 

[Doreamon]

IAF spokesperson didn't deny losses ..
CDS confirmed it..
I personally would like IAF to confirm the exact losses.. it prevents lots of good patriotic people both inside and outside the forum, and on social media, from staking their credibility on denying any IAF aircraft losses.. and then turn angry on the GOI, when eventually IAF acknowledges the exact losses.. because now they have mid on their faces, for saying IAF has 0 losses..

We already seen this happen going by RW meltdown on twitter..

Not denying was the confirmation of some asset loss . I think it was quiet clear . IAF spokesperson clearly said I ll nt give a propaganda advantage when the mission is on . We have the number for the losses on their side as well is wht he said ... I don't know how this zero loss thing started and by whom . Even one of my post here in this forum got automatically edited . We should nt be childish like this . And don't give much stress to those accounts in twitter , they did biggest damage to credibility by spreading fake news in this conflict as well as in balakot conflict .

 

[Miss Firing]

Whatever mistakes were made by the Indian military during this conflict must be acknowledged and rectified. Both the military and civilian leadership should be held accountable and must take concrete steps to correct these errors. Continuous improvement of the Indian military is their responsibility and duty.

It is absolutely not about this.

It is about the fact that this was said to a foreign/US propaganda outlet which has run hit pieces against India/BJP on several issues.

If something had to be put out why not DD or NDTV while being in India.

Why are we "patronizing" & legitimizing these portals with such news?

 

[Brood Father]

What was the point of suddenly coming out with this info in the public domain by CDS, that too for a foreign rag? If GOI wants to disclose the losses let them do through a proper press conference like an after battle assessment. Also put forward the losses of your enemies with proof. Handle this in a proper professional manner, just like we did with the tri services press conference. And to top it all he doesn't give out the numbers and talks about tactical mistakes which we rectified in the latter days of the operation, all that again to a foreign rag.

You go to the length of sending all those parliamentary delegations to different countries but can't have a proper press meet if you want to put something out in the open? Absolutely mind boggling.

Yes that's another thing ..Gora mediawala will get all the breaking news from and your own media gets nothing
What stupidity is this
Your government criticize all these foreign media for anti India propaganda and then you come along giving all the state secrets out of turn.. Just fuckig wow

He should resign now ..I don't think he has mental facility to serve this country ..

 

[Cheepek]

No need to confirm the jets, no need to confirm any material loss. There are no "prizes" for being truthful to any global media that has already made it's mind. The people who should know about any material loss know already. Instead of being satyavadi harishchandra ki chatthi aulad, should cross question about Paki lies that have proven to be FAKE. CDS isn't media trained, the babus are useless. Hopefully the politicians will pull up their socks next time.
My suggestion is to build a separate body for media and pr, for all information to be vetted and funneled through it. And it should NOT have even a single babu.

 

[Cheepek]

"Material losses are factored in any conflict, and I don't think they matter if your objectives are met"

^ How hard is it to say this? Just one line and it does 90% of the job.

 

[haldilal]

 

[sunnyv]

What a self goal . Should have said "We completed our objectives of Destroying Terror facilities without Pilot being harmed even if there is minor/minimal machine loss doesn't matter. We will hit every corner of Pakistani geography where the terrorists hide, and doesn't matter if entire Pakistani Military is guarding them. We were ready to climb the escalatory matrix by destroying every corner of Pakistan Air force ground asset, and the usual Nuclear blackmail wont deter the Indian response. Loosing 1-2 Jets to send a clear message to Pakistani establishment is of minimal concern. We successfully established the fact that IAF gained Air Superiority in just 12 Hours without a single human pilot loss.

 

[haldilal]

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