Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

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Accepting defeat in narrative war is not equal to accepting defeat in actual war
There we hammered them soundly.
If we hammered them soundly there, why accept defeat here? Spam pictures of bombed Paki buildings and air bases every time they bring up the jet loss. Ask them if that feat stopped their bases from being bombed in broad daylight and clear skies.
 
I have said it before, iaf operational command has some retards in it, they didn't conduct SEAD/DEAD before going in. Anyways I hope we get to witness round 2 soon.

C'mon man we know why.

We couldn't do SEAD/DEAD because that was 2 steps above the escalation ladder as the initial targets would have been military(SAMs).

The 1st target had to be terrorist bases, and only after could we pwn their interceptors.
I can only guess but I doubt the initial strike group were operating on offensive counter air roles or had many, if any fighters in swing role(fighters carrying both air to ground munitions and air to air munitions). A good chunk of them were A2G role probably.

Of course we changed the Rules of Engagement now, and the next attack would mean SEAD/DEAD missions first.
Funny how pakis don't seem to direct anger at this change at all.
If they actually had the courage, they would have let the skirmish continue until they got the concessions on IWT and the 'war for terror' RoE change that Modi forced, rather than ask for the ceasefire.
 
The amount of hate plus amount of thin skinned our lads here are quite astonishing,bc u struck them deep killed there army and pilots destroyed their assets and yet even if few assets are lost the amount of rudali's here is astonishing,abey tumne literally unki maar rakhi thi,iraq war main usa ne 50+ jets gawaye thay bc kuch bola koyi,aur yaha tumne unke airbase se le kar sab target kiya fir bhi bc aisa ro rahe ho, don't you think our forces wouldn't have anticipated it, although I admit one thing our administrative be it political or military needs to treat pak military and their terrorists in same manner as there is no difference between them
Wrong. People are talking about what to say and how to say it and to who to say it to. They are correct. It is not the losses of planes that matter but all this roundabout way of saying things.
 
If we hammered them soundly there, why accept defeat here? Spam pictures of bombed Paki buildings and air bases every time they bring up the jet loss. Ask them if that feat stopped their bases from being bombed in broad daylight and clear skies.
Already being spammed .
As @Suryavanshi said , it will be tough but tbh a narrative war is a fools errand at the end of day
Reality is we made them howl.
Now , we need to starve them thirsty, before we do the final act .
 
If we hammered them soundly there, why accept defeat here? Spam pictures of bombed Paki buildings and air bases every time they bring up the jet loss. Ask them if that feat stopped their bases from being bombed in broad daylight and clear skies.
porkis and their chink frands will photoshop even more farji 'evidence". Western MSMs will soon pick them up and broadcast them to their fellow whiggaz
 
Does not matter what you think. What matters is whether India will be seen as a reliable security power. I am yet to see strong statements in support of India from global powers.
There won't be any. Doing so would normalize nuclear powers engaging in conventional confrontation. If the US, France, Britain come out in support, their own people will ask them why such operations aren't being conducted against Russian PMCs that are committing atrocities in Ukraine? This is a bridge none of them are willing to cross.
 
Already being spammed .
As @Suryavanshi said , it will be tough but tbh a narrative war is a fools errand at the end of day
Reality is we made them howl.
Now , we need to starve them thirsty, before we do the final act .
Tbh in the narrative war front, I am only worried about the indian populace getting demotivated and giving in to their panicky nature.
 
You are absolutely wrong here.. Give CDS credit..
India expands the space for conventional operations under nuclear overhang by making Pakistan Army come across as a rational player with nukes . Pakistani strategy has been to come across as an irrational nuclear actor, to close the space for conventional operations by India..
What you're suggesting is the very opposite of what that general is attempting to refute. You're suggesting that a lesser power with nukes opting for its usage when losing the conventional war is a rational option whereas he seems to be denying that Paxtan opted to exercise the N option in the first place going by the limited information at hand. .
Pakistan provoking hostilities using terror has also been part of a very rational strategy of Fauji Foundation where they have not been made to pay the price for such action.. Only Operation Sindoor has extracted "some price from Pakistan" for use of terror, but that too is not much, as the strikes of 2 per base, were only symbolic, and meant to show that we could impose much greater costs..

If using sub conventional means like terror is considered a rational option between two N powers given the otherwise massive asymmetry in practically every parameter we're just a couple of steps away from rationalising exercising of the N option by that lesser power which in this case happens to be the international pariah Paxtan accused by all its neighbours of deploying terror as an instrument of state policy & this includes non N powers like Afghanistan & Iran apart from most of the world which sees them as such.

And what's more if we've rationalised the exercising of the N option by that lesser power in a conflict or conflict like scenario like we do now , we're just a few steps away from rationalising usage of the N option at the very start of the conflict the next time around.

Let me take this rationalization biz to its logical conclusion since we've commenced discussions on this topic. We're also mere steps away from rationalising Paxtan's exercising the N option the moment another Pahalgam occurs without India having fired a single shot. Why ? Coz , hey , we don't want to undergo what we did the last time since there's established conventional disparity between the two states. Hence why go through all the usual routine before we unleash N weapons ? Why not save everybody & ourselves the bother by using it at the very outset ?

See where this argument is going...

Remember that 2 nuclear powers have never done to each other, what India did to Pakistan with Operation Sindoor.. This is new territory that no one else in the world has explored before
All the more reason for us to articulate what we expect from Paxtan & the world then by highlighting their irresponsible behaviour of having no NFU & firing BMs across.

If all this can't be done on a public forum given the repercussions namely the West asking us to sit down for a dialogue or inveigling themselves in like Trump is desperately trying for some publicity then the least the good general can do is to avoid such media especially when they're known to be inimical to your interests.
 
Looks like he is okay with pahalgam type of attack against india.If such folks are cds then what's the use of increasing army budget we must make india a hindunation and increase more hydrogen bombs and hypersonic weapons for public to use against our enemies of hinduism .I would like bajrang dal to lead indian defence and have all these nuclear weapons.
What the fuck ..he said that ..God we are doomed if guys LIKE him are our CDS
He should be not allowed 100 km from army camp and we have made him CDS ..
 
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After all the vitriol that Sanghis and right wing have for western media for being anti India.. The least that could have been done was for the IAF to release a statement in India about IAF losses, instead of GOI having CDS do it in a foreign country with interviews to Bloomberg and Reuters .
 
After listening to the CDS interview — because I always follow Shangri-La — I stopped my tractor, which I was using for readying paddy cultivation, and logged in to DFB. Because of this, I was not impressed. The only recent one I can think of is Gen. Rawat, whose interviews we all know. This CDS interview — the contrast between personalities is real, and the interview is not even diplomatic. The CDS’s phrasing of English is not up to the mark.
Best I can say in these conflicts is: Gen. Ghai and Air Marshal Bharti — their phrasing and messaging is top-notch.
And why is he giving interviews to Bloomberg near a staircase railing? And one more important thing even DFB is better in conveying message to enemy and if employ can be better arm of Goi in information domain.... bureaucratic babudom is real they are really not upto the mark to sail India through difficult neighborhood and not intelligent enough to chart out strategist for India self reliance on critical areas.
Seems like cds has some business with soros and deepstate hence he was giving statements favoring the soros media narrative just like those ccp agents were giving like praveen swaheny etc.

This bjp seems infiltrated as well like congress and other parties hence today sharmishta gets arrested for making video against pakistan but antihindu tweets of individual even pakistan zindabad post by folks are not liable for arrest.
 
Already being spammed .
As @Suryavanshi said , it will be tough but tbh a narrative war is a fools errand at the end of day
Reality is we made them howl.
Now , we need to starve them thirsty, before we do the final act .
Bro, look. If you think the narrative war is a fool's errand and something not worth people with jobs to do, then leave it at that. Refrain from participating on that end and don't be a doomer. It won't help the keyboard warriors who have plenty of time to engage and troll. We have met our objectives and came ready with receipts and our berozgaars, teens and genuine glowies will counter it.
 
He called Pakistan's claims that it shot down six Indian warplanes "absolutely incorrect," though declined to specify how many jets India lost.

"Why they were down, what mistakes were made - that are important,
" General Chauhan said when asked about the fighter jets. "Numbers are not important," he added.

"The good part is that we are able to understand the tactical mistake which we made, remedy it, rectify it, and then implement it again after two days and flew all our jets again, targeting at long range," General Chauhan said.

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To an american rag Bloomburger

Just why???

another interview, this time reuters.
repeated the same thing word to word, it's the official line.


View: https://youtu.be/XDVNUH09Hfw


What is the point of making a vague statement like this to anti-India media?
If they want to reveal any losses they can do it via official methods?
 
Whats the use of bombing at night when its empty and still masood azhar and hafeez saeed are alive they should have bombed his let headquarters atleast killed his family like masood azhar.
Not empty. Atleast 60 as told by DM . Pig lost his 15 family members in 01 Target Strike accepted officially. Goal is to hit Pakistani elite aand forces by destroying their infrastructure, costly air-assets and trained AWCS operators. This is how you establish deterrence. Pigs like Haafiz and Massod are dispensable 5 more will crop ups if u go after them specifically and kill one . But damage to Air-Force wrt to Infrastructure and Manpower is indispensable. At the end of day - Our Enemy is Aaand Forces if they are destroyed, scumbags like hafiz will vanish automatically.
 
Fake news will always remain fake news, doesn't matter if it's by New York Times or CNN or BBC ( it's a different matter that half of their news is always fake news).
That is true but most of the world still follows the lead of western MSMs. They garbage they peddle becomes the accepted truth of the world, youtubers and other non legacy sources will pick up and spin it further against us. Whether we like it or not a country's image does matter both in internal and external matters.

What is baffling to me is how far the han has infiltrated western medias both legacy and non-legacy. Almost every anti-indian action in the west has subtle or open han backing.
 
the info warfare inbred keyboard warriors wont see this, he could have said 0 jets downed, who is going to say anything there, RaGa wouldnt reach singapore to cross question him
that's not how it works . people are completely forgetting in a democracy you can't keep things out of public for very long time . simple example any MP from thugbandhan can simply write a letter to RM under his member of parliament privilege and ask have we lost any jets in this OP.. and you can't reply to such written letter anything apart from facts . Scam gress was focused on Jets even before May 7th because they were sure any crashed jet will give them superb advantage to drag mudi ji to cleaners . which is why they let their leaders to mock Rafale showing toys on News channels for days .

Looks like Mudi ji took the bait and now have to respond back
 
Should have bombed asim munir and eliminated him it would have brought justice.
We may not have bombed Asim Munir but we did bomb Rawalpindi air force station (Chaklala) and some air defense assets stationed there. It's unrealistic to have hit him specifically but this did the job. We've struck him in his home and showed everyone how impotent he is.
 
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