Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

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ezsasa said:
and Final comparative analysis

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To compare the evaluations of Pakistan’s claim of shooting down Indian fighter jets and India’s claims of hitting terrorist sites and airbases in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK) and Pakistan proper during Operation Sindoor (May 2025), I will create a single bar chart with updated colors as requested: green for Pakistan’s claim and orange/saffron for India’s claims. The chart will display the scores for each framework (pramana, viveka, Nyaya, satya) and the final aggregate score as percentages, based on the latest analyses. Pakistan’s claim, evaluated with the confirmed Mirage 2000 drop tank evidence, scored 8/40 (20%) for pramana, 7/30 (23%) for viveka, 5/30 (17%) for Nyaya, 8/30 (27%) for satya, and 28/130 (22%) overall. India’s claims, incorporating the DGMO briefing and satellite imagery, scored 33/40 (83%) for pramana, 22/30 (73%) for viveka, 22/30 (73%) for Nyaya, 23/30 (77%) for satya, and 100/130 (77%) overall. The chart will use a bar type, with green and orange/saffron colors suitable for both dark and light themes, and include the final score for comparative credibility.

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The chart visually highlights the low credibility of Pakistan’s claim (22% overall, likely false) compared to the high credibility of India’s claims (77% overall, likely true). Pakistan’s scores are low across all frameworks, reflecting the lack of direct evidence (Mirage 2000 drop tank misidentification), logical inconsistencies, and biased sources. India’s scores are significantly higher, driven by robust satellite imagery, authoritative briefings, and neutral corroboration for terror camp and airbase strikes, though jet destruction claims are less substantiated. The final score comparison (22% vs. 77%) emphasizes the significant evidential gap between the claims.
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Very interesting! But it is hard to believe that Pakistani jet destruction is unverified as of now. There have been strong hints of such successful attacks at the 11-12 air bases that were struck, as well as a few in the air. What happened to the 2 awacs aircraft( at least one) that were said to be lost. Are only hangars and runways( apart from radars) confirmed to be damaged. And no aircraft?
 
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Guynxdor said:
Shiv Aroor stated that he was personally briefed by the IAF, confirming that India had taken out 9 Pakistani aircraft, both in the air and on the ground.


View: https://x.com/shirobarks/status/1929568339526812143?s=46&t=s5Zjz3wgeVF4a5zNfD4EYA
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Honestly we need to ask these journo's now what were they talking about on 10th May Morning . If you see tweets from Sidhant , AD Kaul, Even Vishnu Som and Shiv all spoke about Air battle going over Srinagar and Adhampur on 10th Morning not on 7th or 8th.. Was there a seriously air intrusion happened on 10th Morning ? or these guys just said something for consumption , Considering Vishnu and Shiv i doubt they would have just peddled something like that for likes and narrative ..

IAF when allowed by Govt should first give clarity about these which will help us understand the losses on Paki side ..
 
Gyyaan said:
Can anybody tell me why do we testfire so many brahmos?
The missile costs 4-5 million dollars ffs
What's the need to test fire brahmos when we have already test fired a lot of them.
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Because you need to train hard in peace time to win battles when war is declared . these are war machines they need to be tested multiple times from every single ship in IN which has inducted Brahmos in its arsenal.
 
Azaad said:

View: https://twitter.com/Akash10j/status/1929350021557936502?s=19
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Sorry to say the leadership has clearly demonstrated its intention long back they are not at all looking for wars . you don't believe me listen to what RM has said just few days ago in CII conclave he said POK people will come running to us to beg to get integrated with India that is how Pok will come to us because of our economic growth

Looks like our RM or the Big leader thinks those Mirpuri the rabid ones will embrace Baniya Dhindu just because they want some better life for their kids .. If then who are those kids getting taught terrorism to hate kafir hindu in those bhawalput and murdike LeT camps ?

absolutely delusional stage we are heading into all thanks to Pacifist leadership who wants to lead country into Gandhian Era
 
Waanar said:
I'm not an optimistic person. You guys know it. I'll just put it forth before people start labeling this as cope.
I have a feeling he's saying this to make Pakistan a little more comfortable with the idea of attacking India.
Military personnel usually don't make such comments randomly. Coming from a CDS, it will definitely embolden Pakistan, at least on a moral level.
I would honestly love if we keep making comments which emboldens Pakistan further.

Takes the culpability of starting the war off of us and puts it on them.

Not at all convinced of this as of yet but I would suggest we run his comments through the rumination machine. I don't believe he is stupid but we'll have to wait and watch.
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He also given clean chit to china saying no chinese help . But were as some reports are boasting how chinese satellites help guide PL-15E to take down our gets .. Stand clear le lo saar ..If you don't want to take uncle Xi and wants to mend terms and bring more dollars for their companies then just do it .. Don't give stupid rhetoric like Akai chin is our and POK ke liye jaan de denge ..
 
Samaritan said:
It seems US is targeting India , 500% Tariffs if we procure Russian OIL , Seems EU also supporting this.
Turkey ,AzarB , China are against us and even our neighbors are not in good relation with us. Its testing time for us and if some internal conflict happens , then it would be more difficult. All this Indicates that we are arriving. If US really targets India with tariffs , India should retaliate. We should be thinking for parallel currency against USD . The non Invite of G7 also indicates that they only want money from India and do not want to see India progressing. I am of the view that aligning with china in selected sectors to create parallel systems on world stage to counter ICJ/UNSE/UN and others will help creating divide and will also help playing in both systems for achieving our Interests . tough times ahead!
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Washington DC | US Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick says, "...There were certain things that the Indian government did that generally rubbed the United States the wrong way. For instance, you generally buy your military gear from Russia. That's a way to kind of get under the skin of America if you're going to buy your armaments from Russia. I think India starting to move towards buying military equipment from the United States, which then goes a long way. And these kind of things just creating that relationship being a part of BRICS, which is, oh, let's move to not support the dollar and dollar hegemony. That's not really the way to make friends and influence people in America. The President calls that out directly and specifically, and the Indian government is addressing it specifically. And that's how you move on to a really positive place. Put it on the table, address it straight on, resolve it straight on and get to a really good place. And I think that's where we are..."


View: https://x.com/ANI/status/1929717632380371195?t=ze5pbRkC8SBh8TWcLNXF1A&s=09
 
Why is jawed Naqvi not arrested and deported if he is working for pakistani terrorist media dawn news and writes antihindu antiindian articles living in Delhi can mea arrest him for treason for insulting indian army and hinduism.

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Brood Father said:
Nope the only way you can completely stop the terror attack in region is by destroying Pakistan with or without nuclear war
Yes you will be also hit and northern India might go to flames but at least Pakistan will no longer in the map
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Define 'complete destruction'.

What are your opinions on Gaza, Yemeni Houthi and Hezbollah? These are non state actors - they do not have nukes or potent BMs. Do you think they have been 'completely destroyed'? If not, what are the odds that they are going to be 'completely destroyed' in the not-so-distant future?
 
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Brood Father said:
This guy can't even do damage control ..We are lead by idiots it seems

View: https://x.com/ANI/status/1929835058170417296
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Hahah let's stop this RR, the CDS will say what he has to and he doesn't give a shyt what you or I think. He is clearing the air, let's grow some balls. Let's not give two hoot to what a semi-literate chapri pakistani youthia working for a chawanni and ispr say online!
 
Gyyaan said:
Can anybody tell me why do we testfire so many brahmos?
The missile costs 4-5 million dollars ffs
What's the need to test fire brahmos when we have already test fired a lot of them.
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every missile has a shelf life of about 10-15 years thus if not fired it wouldnt be safe to use thus regular test fires are conducted it also affirms that we are having a large inventry in stock
 
chnvipgz said:

View: https://x.com/mujifren/status/1929241704835531135?t=y1C_N9pmRcpqrY2w8Y_cPQ&s=19
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Online e-lashkars are abusing the CDS for repeating what has long been the official stance of the incumbent since the very beginning. The delegations they sent abroad are making this exact point. Tharki Tharoor, the new blue eyed boy of our e-lashkars is on record claiming that India is interested in developing its own economy and wants to be left alone.

And yet, it is the CDS who needs to be scapegoated just cuz his 'tone' is not 'aggressive enough'....

mcpo117 said:
Exactly. His tone is not aggressive enough. He is a military general. He has no business lecturing about peace and economy. Leave that to politicians.
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Has it ever occurred to you that he is talking that way cuz the incumbent wants him to? When the incumbent PM is threatening the inbreds and directly mentioning pakiland in his speeches (on a daily basis) how much more 'aggression' do you hope for?
 
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crazywithmath said:
Has it ever occurred to you that he is talking that way cuz the incumbent wants him to?
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Yes it has nd that bothers me the most. He could say No. Its not like refusing is a coup or anything.
A military puppet of civilian govt. or civilian govt a puppet of military. Both bananas fr.
 
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