Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

[crazywithmath]

Even this guy is making sense because of incompetence of Leaderji .. times we are living in

View: https://x.com/PravinSawhney/status/1930434066454827375

Broody's pre LS 2024 avatar is back, guys. Dude is just trolling.

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Hellfire sir is signaling towards ssg teams operating in kashmir with manpads , this is a very grave provocation and we should (most probably would) react with the same in Balochistan and other tribal areas where pakland has been bombing its own citizens with impunity.

He is bullshitting. It is amazing how him and chuha, both nincompoop buffoons, are being taken seriously post op Sindoor.

CC: @Gslv Mk3

 

[jaijaganath]

I agree we have datalinks that connect AEW&C to shooters like BNET-AR, etc. But the datalink for BVR missile guidance is only from shooters, our AEW&Cs do not have the ability to provide these updates directly to BVR missile. This is the capability gap vis-a-vis PLAAF and PAF now. For example, the ku band datalink for Astra mk1 is on the Astra launcher pylon itself. We have the ability for a buddy (different from actual shooter) to guide missiles but these are fighters too and unlike AEW&C or UAV relay (beaming updates from ground station) will be in the threat envelope of PL-15.

Why do you think we saw no wreckage of our AAMs in Pakistan, I think J-10 were zooming in and launching (lofting) PL-15s and then turning cold as they relied on AEW&C or an UAV relay to guide those missiles, thus denying us an opportunity to fire back. One thing I missed in my initial post, maybe integration of loyal wingman like Cats Warrior with Astra missile coupled with SU30MKI can complicate the situation for PAF and allow IAF to play to it's number advantage.

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Look mate
Our awacs can share real time data and location of enemy aircraft but guiding it depends on missiles capability
Definitely pl-15 has that capability but the point is they need chinese datalink bcoz link-16 cannot be integrated with chinese platforms coz that would risk a lot of data and systems critical info under nato

The reason pakistani fired and went back not bcoz their awacs was providing relay to pl-15 but that's their strategy like what they did during swift retort baiting the aircraft to their air defence zones and then shoot it down or other aircrafts waiting for it
We fired bvr or not and why was it fired is a different topic coz we had to follow RoE laid by the govt

And mostly the awacs which was on the air was saab not chinese making it sure that awacs wasn't guiding the missile
And moreover it's and active guided missile

 

[crazywithmath]

Yes you are right but this document is touted as official source .

No, it is not, LMAO.

Either way, @Prasad pre LS 2024 broody is back. Can we have the round 2 of the e-lafda that ended abruptly once the polls were done and dusted?

 

[chnvipgz]

Porkis must be countered and humiliated and complete stoppage of iwt until it's ready to flood and neutralize porki agri and food.


View: https://x.com/dintentdata/status/1930241836481700185?t=MCImWSz_bQ5dI16PFP7eVw&s=19

 

[snakeeyes07]

Look mate
Our awacs can share real time data and location of enemy aircraft but guiding it depends on missiles capability
Definitely pl-15 has that capability but the point is they need chinese datalink bcoz link-16 cannot be integrated with chinese platforms coz that would risk a lot of data and systems critical info under nato

The reason pakistani fired and went back not bcoz their awacs was providing relay to pl-15 but that's their strategy like what they did during swift retort baiting the aircraft to their air defence zones and then shoot it down or other aircrafts waiting for it
We fired bvr or not and why was it fired is a different topic coz we had to follow RoE laid by the govt

And mostly the awacs which was on the air was saab not chinese making it sure that awacs wasn't guiding the missile
And moreover it's and active guided missile

There can be 2 possibilities, one zdk-03 was seen in satellite images during operations, maybe their retirement was a ruse to obfuscate capabilities until needed. Or the other possibility which I think is more likely is that they were able to integrate Chinese radars like JY-27 and HQ-9 search and fire control radar into a fused air picture and used Chinese data link from ground station (C4 centers) to provide updates to PL-15 either directly or via UAV relay. Maybe that's why IAF went after C4 infrastructure at Nur Khan and Murid airbases. Also, what supports this possibility is that PAF wasn't effective later on as IAF conducted SEAD thus degrading their air picture even though their AEW&Cs would still be on station.

Re guiding an Active Radar seeker BVR missile, they need mid course guidance to be effective at long ranges until they go pitbull. Even PL15 ku band AESA seeker, has a seeker cone of around 6 degree and can only see targets in around 6-8 km deviation from last known target update when they go active at about 15-20 km from target. I think getting a hit at 150km+ with just initial INS is pretty much impossible for fighter targets.

 

[Numero]

Porkis must be countered and humiliated and complete stoppage of iwt until it's ready to flood and neutralize porki agri and food.


View: https://x.com/dintentdata/status/1930241836481700185?t=MCImWSz_bQ5dI16PFP7eVw&s=19

Indians are not that jobless & aggressive about hating them. They mostly focus on productive things beside obviously abusing them on social media but never go to their level. It feels petty.
Going by the sheer amount of propaganda being spewed against India the Govt needs to step in & start a counter narrative. Govt needs a social media cell just like how China does. We've enough resources.

 

[jaijaganath]

There can be 2 possibilities, one zdk-03 was seen in satellite images during operations, maybe their retirement was a ruse to obfuscate capabilities until needed. Or the other possibility which I think is more likely is that they were able to integrate Chinese radars like JY-27 and HQ-9 search and fire control radar into a fused air picture and used Chinese data link from ground station (C4 centers) to provide updates to PL-15 either directly or via UAV relay. Maybe that's why IAF went after C4 infrastructure at Nur Khan and Murid airbases. Also, what supports this possibility is that PAF wasn't effective later on as IAF conducted SEAD thus degrading their air picture even though their AEW&Cs would still be on station.

Re guiding an Active Radar seeker BVR missile, they need mid course guidance to be effective at long ranges until they go pitbull. Even PL15 ku band AESA seeker, has a seeker cone of around 6 degree and can only see targets in around 6-8 km deviation from last known target update when they go active at about 15-20 km from target. I think getting a hit at 150km+ with just initial INS is pretty much impossible for fighter targets.

I don't think engagement happened at 150km
Whatever happened was nearly to pl-15e NEZ coz aircrafts were returning after completion and they were detected and engaged
So I personally think it was not too far from our aircrafts

Possibility of FCR guiding pl-15e can't be ruled out
And most probably chinese drones weren't used afaik coz maximum drones we hit were of Turkish origin and few chinese drones were hit on our side but they were fpv drones mostly

 

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What ? Excellent image. Who did you get this from ? Plz share the handle and show more of such classified image ?

 

[Captscooby]

Steno Shishir is here with the unofficial government version of the take aways of Operation Sindoor.

Makes very interesting opening remarks on Operation Spider Web prosecuted by the Ukrainians on Russia.

While there was an intelligence failure on the part of Russia , apparently the reason those strategic bombers were lying in the open without protection was because of terms of certain treaties like START etc the former USSR & its successor state Russia signed with the US under which all those bombers were supposed to be lying in the open for easy verification by space based assets for the numbers as well as the fact that in case of any unauthorised movement it could be spotted & preventive action taken .

He's of the opinion this would have major ramifications on all those treaties . What this also means is that the Europeans are behind this move to inveigle the US back into backing Ukraine in the war for this move doesn't benefit the Ukrainians in any way other than what's suggested !

From this discussion what my contact told me on 10th sounds true now , when he said Chinks were trying to find out if we are moving R jets from East to west after 9th Night .. And they were using kanglu intelligence cells inside our side to do that and that is how one kanglu intelligence mole was arrested and handed over to Kanglu West land police .

 

[snakeeyes07]

I don't think engagement happened at 150km
Whatever happened was nearly to pl-15e NEZ coz aircrafts were returning after completion and they were detected and engaged
So I personally think it was not too far from our aircrafts

Possibility of FCR guiding pl-15e can't be ruled out
And most probably chinese drones weren't used afaik coz maximum drones we hit were of Turkish origin and few chinese drones were hit on our side but they were fpv drones mostly

Pakistan and China are now pretty much one enemy as they are now capability aligned as well. I think it is very much possible that PL15E that Pakistan fired are actually from PLAAF stocks and just labelled as PL15E on the outside. I think next time if we wait 10+ days for the Indian response, Chinese might mobilize air assert in Tibet or even intervene in worst case scenario. Either way, they are fully supporting Pakistan with technical and logistical means.

The Bathinda jet went down around 100km from IB, with that one 150km+ engagement is likely.

For a UAV to work as relay they can be pretty far from border (150-200km), it is only addressing the LOS (line of sight) limitation of ground station.

I think IAF needs to induct Astra mk3 ASAP and DRDO needs to develop a bigger Astra mk2 (260-300 kg, similar class as PL17 as it will have less travel time than mk3). Also, getting these missiles integrated with Rafale will be long and expensive process, instead the focus should be on doing capability enhancement on SU30MKI.

 

[Sanglamorre]

What ? Excellent image. Who did you get this from ? Plz share the handle and show more of such classified image ?

Literally says jjamwal.in on the image itself

Jaidev Jamwal

 

[jaijaganath]

Pakistan and China are now pretty much one enemy as they are now capability aligned as well. I think it is very much possible that PL15E that Pakistan fired are actually from PLAAF stocks and just labelled as PL15E on the outside. I think next time if we wait 10+ days for the Indian response, Chinese might mobilize air assert in Tibet or even intervene in worst case scenario. Either way, they are fully supporting Pakistan with technical and logistical means.

The Bathinda jet went down around 100km from IB, with that one 150km+ engagement is likely.

For a UAV to work as relay they can be pretty far from border (150-200km), it is only addressing the LOS (line of sight) limitation of ground station.

I think IAF needs to induct Astra mk3 ASAP and DRDO needs to develop a bigger Astra mk2 (260-300 kg, similar class as PL17 as it will have less travel time than mk3). Also, getting these missiles integrated with Rafale will be long and expensive process, instead the focus should be on doing capability enhancement on SU30MKI.

Bathinda was hit by sam I heard
There were more than 1 hits u can take it as aircrafts or drones
Govt will reveal it whenever they wish
But bhatinda was mostly sam hit

Even mk1 and mk2 have dual channel deta link and can perform good
Coz mk3 will take its sweet time to come into service
I agree to chini paki bhai bhai but they haven't given pl-15 coz they are still amriki bitch and they will definitely get their hands on one of their most sophisticated system maybe post this conflict they might get og pl-15 but again possibility

 

[crazywithmath]

Seems rumors of us hitting Kala Chitta Pahar (yet another nuke facility, located near Attock) were indeed true. Paki dossier claims Attock was hit - even though GoI did not mention Attock in their briefings.


View: https://youtu.be/-rGAZ20Dfyc?si=omQ0228Wmxe-62ry

Surprisingly, no video footage/dossier claim/sat imagery of our hits on Chagai so far.

 

[Adibot]

From this discussion what my contact told me on 10th sounds true now , when he said Chinks were trying to find out if we are moving R jets from East to west after 9th Night .. And they were using kanglu intelligence cells inside our side to do that and that is how one kanglu intelligence mole was arrested and handed over to Kanglu West land police .

Kanglu intelligence would be a pain for us if we don't deal with rohingyas and cut that sewage nation in half

 

[Master of Indus]

Kanglu intelligence would be a pain for us if we don't deal with rohingyas and cut that sewage nation in half

You have no clue how easily jihadists capitulate if met with extreme ferocity! In a vacuum of serious force, they can blabber anything even sitting in USA.

 

[snakeeyes07]

View: https://x.com/arpitkanodia30/status/1930581742127292710

https://www.rafael.co.il/system/global-link-bnet-ar/

Looks like datalink work on SU30MKI and LCA mk1a is well underway. Wider adoption of Astra mk2 and subsequent generations will come in handy for next clash.

Also Israel has a new long range BVR of PL-15 class.

https://www.rafael.co.il/system/sky-sting-6th-gen/

 

[Miss Firing]

Fucking Fat Vatnik Moskal inbred Ork scum

‘India-Pakistan conflict was stopped with Trump’s personal participation’: Kremlin after Putin call​

‘India-Pakistan conflict was stopped with Trump’s personal participation’: Kremlin after Putin call

Trump on Wednesday (June 4) held a telephonic conversation with Russian leader Vladimir Putin during which the two leaders also discussed the India-Pakistan conflict, among other issues

www.firstpost.com

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Looks like, after getting BTFO'ed by Ukros, Vatniks are busy throating MAGA dicks to save their vatnik bums.

Vodka inebriated scum should stick to scrapping the remains of their decaying ork buddies fertilizing the fields of UKR.

 

[Viper316]

The question is will they break the ceasefire or preserve the ceasefire line


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[chnvipgz]

View: https://x.com/arpitkanodia30/status/1930581742127292710

https://www.rafael.co.il/system/global-link-bnet-ar/

Looks like datalink work on SU30MKI and LCA mk1a is well underway. Wider adoption of Astra mk2 and subsequent generations will come in handy for next clash.

Also Israel has a new long range BVR of PL-15 class.

https://www.rafael.co.il/system/sky-sting-6th-gen/

Without indigenous solution all these stuff won't work .Drdo and hal need more merit folks cancel low merit quotas from drdo,isro,hal appointments.

 

[silentassassin265]

The question is will they break the ceasefire or preserve the ceasefire line


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What was the point of shimla agreement?
It's existence was useless.