Operation Sindoor and Aftermath (64 Viewers)

Any reason you feel this way? Also did the machine go to the US or stayed in India?

>Gujarat
>Ahemdabad
>ex-CM died, of Bhajipao onlee
>Air India
>one in gorillion chance of both engines failing just after takeoff conveniently.
>300+ people dead

It's just too convenient.

If you were a cowardly mulq barely escaping because of Americunt intervention, this would be a good option to get revenge with it's full deniability.

And in this land of Jaichand and Mirjafar there is no paucity of traitors who will do such things for mazhub, paisa or pussy.


Assuming they did this and we don't respond, another on the nose terror attack will come up in the future.
 
The Notam is likely to test defenses, there was even a video of them shooting down some projectile or drone over their skies. They are trying to plug holes. Keep a close eye on their procurements.

They would be disappointed then. Our air defenses are not switched on during peace time especially the radars. We have different kind of radars swtiched on during peace time if I am right. You don't want to give out your electronic signatures during peace time.
 
Even if he hasn't come across this info from his serving buddies, it is a logical expectation.

We did do real damage to them and caused casualties, delulu propaganda for awaam notwithstanding, both for uniformed and salwar wearing jihadis.

We have humiliated them and they know it, they will likely do something to avenge their humiliation.

It is why you have these articles from Vishnu Som and Shishir Gupta, why you have Modi and Rajnath making threats and saying this time we go after terror and it's sponsors.

However we don't know when they will attack again, a time will come where leadership and forces may get complacent.

We must increase defense budget and procurements to be prepared for anything
I'm expecting near Navratri at Gujrat or at Diwali. They've gotten humiliated very badly this time so they'll probably try to do an attack that is symbolic too.

Another option is Kashmir right before winter closes passes.
 
Let see, it won't be long before we find out unfortunately. My hunch is Air India crash in Ahmedabad is somehow linked with Pakistanis, things are not adding up. Even the process of retrieving black box data is taking too long and all hush hush.


View: https://x.com/mountain_rats/status/1938427570657329453

Is possible ISI knows we figured out Pak's role behind the crash and now they have issued NOTAMs anticipating another attack.

I don't think so.

For one, a terrorist attack needs to be known as a terrorist attack for propoganda value. Otherwise it will be like claiming the 50 people who died due to road accidents yesterday in various parts of India as done by Pakistan.

For Pakistanis, for Pakistani fauj, there's no value if there's no wink wink nudge nudge value of such an incident, especially one that can take down foreign nationals by going after intl flights.

What was the goal of an incident like this without ownership or implied ownership? Maybe if the plan was to down multiple aircraft and then claim ownership by some terror outfit and weaken the govt, which if planned...has failed already.
 
I don't think so.

For one, a terrorist attack needs to be known as a terrorist attack for propoganda value. Otherwise it will be like claiming the 50 people who died due to road accidents yesterday in various parts of India as done by Pakistan.

For Pakistanis, for Pakistani fauj, there's no value if there's no wink wink nudge nudge value of such an incident, especially one that can take down foreign nationals by going after intl flights.

What was the goal of an incident like this without ownership or implied ownership? Maybe if the plan was to down multiple aircraft and then claim ownership by some terror outfit and weaken the govt, which if planned...has failed already.

> Pakistan knows Boeing & other international bodies are involved. It won't be hidden for long.
> Some terror org like LeT / JeM claiming responsibility is FATF suicide for Pak.

Apart from this, there has been other instances where Pakistani terrorists were responsible for killing multiple Indian citizens but no formal announcement by GoI. e.g., frequent train derailments, especially 2023 Balasore Odisha train accident which killed ~300 people.


There was no formal conclusion released by railway. While multiple news agencies tried to pin the blame on railways, the real reason was signalling master Amir Khan intentionally saboutaged the signals.


This piece I have confirmed personally by more than one first-hand source.
 
Cross post from IWT thread.

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Looks like some babu from MEA took protein and creatine supplement today.
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MEA says, "Today, the illegal Court of Arbitration, purportedly constituted under the Indus Waters Treaty 1960, albeit in brazen violation of it, has issued what it characterizes as a "supplemental award” on its competence concerning the Kishenganga and Ratle hydroelectric projects in the Indian Union Territory of Jammu and Kashmir. India has never recognised the existence in law of this so-called Court of Arbitration, and India’s position has all along been that the constitution of this so-called arbitral body is in itself a serious breach of the Indus Waters Treaty and consequently any proceedings before this forum and any award or decision taken by it are also for that reason illegal and per se void...India, therefore, categorically rejects this so-called supplemental award as it has rejected all prior pronouncements of this body..."


View: https://x.com/ANI/status/1938597832555975047?t=5F7WUrkkX0ps7sknIuB7sA&s=19
 
You don't humiliate leaders who have big ego. Pakistan being a generational ass-kisser knows this very well. Modi trying to gather every strand of credit for Op Sindoor doesn't. Jaishankar probably advised against it and got sidelined.
It is not about taking credit. It is mainly about third party mediation in India Paki land disputes. We cannot allow a precedent to be set about open third party mediation when our stance has been that as per Simla Agreement, India-Pak issues are bilateral. There always have been some mediation, from middle east or US, but none of them have been publicly claimed. This is where the dilemma lies or us. Earlier in Trump's term, we appeased him too, praising wherever possible and not trying to antagonise him. But this was a red line which we cannot allow to be crossed. Earlier US Presidents or other important state leaders did not cross this line.

OTOH, this is exactly the Pakis wanted (beggar got a small lottery). They have always been calling for third party mediation. Trump being the egomaniac and disregard for international relations, claimed credit which aligns with Paki narrative. Pakis got the chance of buttering Trump. We had to counter that, there was no option.
 
Remember we don't know what that orange moron demanded behind the scene. He must have demanded something crazy. Like restoring IWT, giving some compensation to Pakistan, etc. If we had bowed down to him, we would have to agree to all his whims. There is a limit to how much you can appease an megalomaniac. And we have done everything to appease him. So saying we did a mistake defying it order isn't right, because we don't know what behind the scene. Calling Modi credit khor who did this for credit is also not right.
 
>Gujarat
>Ahemdabad
>ex-CM died, of Bhajipao onlee
>Air India
>one in gorillion chance of both engines failing just after takeoff conveniently.
>300+ people dead

It's just too convenient.

If you were a cowardly mulq barely escaping because of Americunt intervention, this would be a good option to get revenge with it's full deniability.

And in this land of Jaichand and Mirjafar there is no paucity of traitors who will do such things for mazhub, paisa or pussy.


Assuming they did this and we don't respond, another on the nose terror attack will come up in the future.
Why mir Jaffar are needed when our babus allowed terrorist turkey to be Mechanics of airindia and also other terrorist turkish companies to manage airindia,indigo flights.
 
It is not about taking credit. It is mainly about third party mediation in India Paki land disputes. We cannot allow a precedent to be set about open third party mediation when our stance has been that as per Simla Agreement, India-Pak issues are bilateral. There always have been some mediation, from middle east or US, but none of them have been publicly claimed. This is where the dilemma lies or us. Earlier in Trump's term, we appeased him too, praising wherever possible and not trying to antagonise him. But this was a red line which we cannot allow to be crossed. Earlier US Presidents or other important state leaders did not cross this line.

OTOH, this is exactly the Pakis wanted (beggar got a small lottery). They have always been calling for third party mediation. Trump being the egomaniac and disregard for international relations, claimed credit which aligns with Paki narrative. Pakis got the chance of buttering Trump. We had to counter that, there was no option.

Interesting take. Perhaps it was intentional as to flag what is our red line.

However fact to the matter is now Trump is now on Pakistani gang. Also to note, this is not just because of Asim Munir ass kissing, but also that USA is now losing patience with our fence-sitting attitude.

By 2014, America was big on taking India on their sides. Starting from defence sales like C-130J, C-17s, Chinooks and Apaches. Pitching for most advanced version of F-16s in MMRCA, and then unconditionally supporting us on standoffs versus China, both in 2017 and 2020.

Its my opinion that we should have gone to USA gang.

But now that carrot isn't working on us, we will gonna get the stick soon.
 
> Pakistan knows Boeing & other international bodies are involved. It won't be hidden for long.
> Some terror org like LeT / JeM claiming responsibility is FATF suicide for Pak.

Apart from this, there has been other instances where Pakistani terrorists were responsible for killing multiple Indian citizens but no formal announcement by GoI. e.g., frequent train derailments, especially 2023 Balasore Odisha train accident which killed ~300 people.


There was no formal conclusion released by railway. While multiple news agencies tried to pin the blame on railways, the real reason was signalling master Amir Khan intentionally saboutaged the signals.


This piece I have confirmed personally by more than one first-hand source.
Blame modi and bjp who is providing free scholarship to muslims for upsc and govt exams who will be enemies of india and work as spies for pakistan.Its high time to ban non hindus from govt jobs just like hindus are banned from govt jobs in bangladesh,srilanka and pakistan.
 
Interesting take. Perhaps it was intentional as to flag what is our red line.

However fact to the matter is now Trump is now on Pakistani gang. Also to note, this is not just because of Asim Munir ass kissing, but also that USA is now losing patience with our fence-sitting attitude.

By 2014, America was big on taking India on their sides. Starting from defence sales like C-130J, C-17s, Chinooks and Apaches. Pitching for most advanced version of F-16s in MMRCA, and then unconditionally supporting us on standoffs versus China, both in 2017 and 2020.

Its my opinion that we should have gone to USA gang.

But now that carrot isn't working on us, we will gonna get the stick soon.
A very hot take. But I think joining their gang is basically being their vassal. And what they want us to do is kiss their ass just like Pakistan. If that is what you want us to do as well, there is a lot to lose in that way. Otherwise our policymakers would have picked that option by now. They are not idiots, they know the merits and demerits of these options and have picked what is the best at the particular point in time.

You know what some might say let us just give our airbases to US just like Pakistan. And be like those Japanese. Heck lets give Andaman to the US on 99 year lease. They will surely love us. The reason we didn't join their Asian NATO is because of such kinds of demands. We have no problem with cooperating them with Quads but they just want us to be like Pakistan kissing their ass. And if refusing to be bitch of United States is being a fence shitter so be it. And if there are negative consequences to refusing to be one, then we will manage it like how we did before. But one has to remember there are negative consequences to being one as well, with no guarantee of protection. All of that is already has been assessed by our policymakers. Because they have dealt with these kinds of things multiple times.

@Azaad @ezsasa What's your opinion on this?
 
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However fact to the matter is now Trump is now on Pakistani gang. Also to note, this is not just because of Asim Munir ass kissing, but also that USA is now losing patience with our fence-sitting attitude.

By 2014, America was big on taking India on their sides. Starting from defence sales like C-130J, C-17s, Chinooks and Apaches. Pitching for most advanced version of F-16s in MMRCA, and then unconditionally supporting us on standoffs versus China, both in 2017 and 2020.

Its my opinion that we should have gone to USA gang.

But now that carrot isn't working on us, we will gonna get the stick soon.
I disagree, we’ve been on the receiving end of the stick for quite a while. From CAATSA sanctions to the orchestrated protests like the farmers protest, CAB, NRC, and Shaheen Bagh, the U.S. has consistently pressured India.

During Trump's first term, tariff accusations were rampant, and the Biden administration has been openly hostile. The Nijjar fiasco and allegations of India conducting extrajudicial assassinations on American and Canadian soil like the CC1 arrest and the whole false flag operation about Pannun's death. The U.S. has continued arming Pakistan, bailing them out through IMF loans and Arab state financial interventions, while simultaneously fueling the Khalistani insurgency both in India and globally.

They’ve defamed India through biased indices like Freedom House, religious tolerance, democracy, and hunger rankings. Their social media platforms amplify anti-India content, dehumanizing Indians. Time and again, they’ve gone to great lengths to antagonize the Modi government. In my view, their actions show a clear pattern of hostility over the years.
 
I think exactly the same, it is Paki sabotage, whether the Govt will respond or no idk.
A Paki attack in the future is coming, whether terrorist or military idk.
No way chances are nill, 53 UK citizens boarded the ill fated plane. Porkis know what will be the outcome if any sabotage identified. IMHO Irrespective of any nationalilty, a porki sabotage will lead to devastation of paki land and its people
 
I think exactly the same, it is Paki sabotage, whether the Govt will respond or no idk.
A Paki attack in the future is coming, whether terrorist or military idk.

Nah, Boeing is just a crappy company. They wanted observer status to have a seat at the table (because the investigation is being led by an Indian govt body).

Hopefully, they will expose that crappy company without giving a flying fuck to Uncle Sam's tantrums.
 

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