Operation Sindoor and Aftermath (98 Viewers)

[shade2]

Interesting take. Perhaps it was intentional as to flag what is our red line.

However fact to the matter is now Trump is now on Pakistani gang. Also to note, this is not just because of Asim Munir ass kissing, but also that USA is now losing patience with our fence-sitting attitude.

By 2014, America was big on taking India on their sides. Starting from defence sales like C-130J, C-17s, Chinooks and Apaches. Pitching for most advanced version of F-16s in MMRCA, and then unconditionally supporting us on standoffs versus China, both in 2017 and 2020.

Its my opinion that we should have gone to USA gang.

But now that carrot isn't working on us, we will gonna get the stick soon.

USA gang means vassaldom, Pakistan is already in USA gang this way,
so are Greece and Turkey.
And so is Ukraine
You see the Ukrainians enjoying the benefits of that

And they have been very miserly with the carrots but generous with the sticks.

I disagree, we’ve been on the receiving end of the stick for quite a while. From CAATSA sanctions to the orchestrated protests like the farmers protest, CAB, NRC, and Shaheen Bagh, the U.S. has consistently pressured India.

During Trump's first term, tariff accusations were rampant, and the Biden administration has been openly hostile. The Nijjar fiasco and allegations of India conducting extrajudicial assassinations on American and Canadian soil like the CC1 arrest and the whole false flag operation about Pannun's death. The U.S. has continued arming Pakistan, bailing them out through IMF loans and Arab state financial interventions, while simultaneously fueling the Khalistani insurgency both in India and globally.

They’ve defamed India through biased indices like Freedom House, religious tolerance, democracy, and hunger rankings. Their social media platforms amplify anti-India content, dehumanizing Indians. Time and again, they’ve gone to great lengths to antagonize the Modi government. In my view, their actions show a clear pattern of hostility over the years.

We sit on the fence because we know their plans for us, post-maidan Ukraine was only a confirmation.

 

[redpanda]

USA gang means vassaldom, Pakistan is already in USA gang this way,
so are Greece and Turkey.
And so is Ukraine
You see the Ukrainians enjoying the benefits of that

And they have been very miserly with the carrots but generous with the sticks.




We sit on the fence because we know their plans for us, post-maidan Ukraine was only a confirmation.

Lmao Modi & BJP wanted us to be an US ally for a long time, all of us can check old news articles from Congress era. There is a reason he gave up on that idea after his initial tries. Heck BJP as whole wanted us to be an US ally and was against NAM. But they changed their stance in their successive terms for a reason. They realised the problem with being an US ally. It wasn't easy to be an US ally, demands were too much. That is why you can see sticks being applied since 2019 with Delhi riot, farmer protests, etc. We are already under their stick since 2019. (tbh one can argue even before that.)

 

[shade2]

Lmao Modi & BJP wanted us to be an US ally for a long time, all of us can check old news articles from Congress era. There is a reason he gave up on that idea after his initial tries. Heck BJP as whole wanted us to be an US ally and was against NAM. But they changed their stance in their successive terms for a reason. They realised the problem with being an US ally. It wasn't easy to be an US ally, demands were too much. That is why you can see sticks being applied since 2019 with Delhi riot, farmer protests, etc. We are already under their stick since 2019. (tbh one can argue even before that.)

Chong wants certain parts of our land.
US wants remote control of all our countries' affairs, foreign and domestic

US also wants us to get into war with the Chongs just like Russia is stuck in the Ukranian quagmire, this will dash their plan of a Taiwan anschluss since they will be stuck in the same trap that Putin is.

Which is leader's chair is in danger if he withdraws from a war he started against an adversary which was shown as comically weak.

Knives will be out for Xi if he gets into a war with us and gets out, so he will continue, and we who will be sold to the US masta will also be forced to stay in such a war, destroying our future at the commands of Uncle Sam.

 

[snakeeyes07]

MRSAM wreckage found in Pakpattan area (40-50km from IB)

View: https://x.com/TheLegateIN/status/1938613422293401714

 

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MRSAM wreckage found in Pakpattan area (40-50km from IB)

View: https://x.com/TheLegateIN/status/1938613422293401714

The fact that most interceptions happened 40 to 50 kilometers from the International Border (IB) explains a lot. During the recent escalation, Pakistan fired multiple missiles and air-to-ground munitions at us, but thankfully, none managed to breach our air defense shield. It’s very likely that many of these interceptions took place on the Pakistani side of the border, which is why we haven’t seen many visuals or videos of the missile interceptions. Our air defense systems performed even better than expected, effectively neutralizing the threats before they could cause any damage.

This shows just how capable and prepared our air defense network is, and why we didn’t see much evidence of incoming threats reaching Indian territory.

 

[Sanglamorre]

The fact that most interceptions happened 40 to 50 kilometers from the International Border (IB) explains a lot. During the recent escalation, Pakistan fired multiple missiles and air-to-ground munitions at us, but thankfully, none managed to breach our air defense shield. It’s very likely that many of these interceptions took place on the Pakistani side of the border, which is why we haven’t seen many visuals or videos of the missile interceptions. Our air defense systems performed even better than expected, effectively neutralizing the threats before they could cause any damage.

This shows just how capable and prepared our air defense network is, and why we didn’t see much evidence of incoming threats reaching Indian territory.

This is basically <insert game like warthunder> players shooting their long range as soon as the radar detects enemies

 

[Azaad]

A very hot take. But I think joining their gang is basically being their vassal. And what they want us to do is kiss their ass just like Pakistan. If that is what you want us to do as well, there is a lot to lose in that way. Otherwise our policymakers would have picked that option by now. They are not idiots, they know the merits and demerits of these options and have picked what is the best at the particular point in time.

You know what some might say let us just give our airbases to US just like Pakistan. And be like those Japanese. Heck lets give Andaman to the US on 99 year lease. They will surely love us. The reason we didn't join their Asian NATO is because of such kinds of demands. We have no problem with cooperating them with Quads but they just want us to be like Pakistan kissing their ass. And if refusing to be bitch of United States is being a fence shitter so be it. And if there are negative consequences to refusing to be one, then we will manage it like how we did before. But one has to remember there are negative consequences to being one as well, with no guarantee of protection. All of that is already has been assessed by our policymakers. Because they have dealt with these kinds of things multiple times.

@Azaad @ezsasa What's your opinion on this?

US armed forces already use the A&N Islands as an aviation logistics hub , for ship repairs , refuelling , etc .

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Moreover we've signed up with USN to for ship repairs overhauling etc which'd come in handy in peace & war time.

So we aren't fence sitting nor have we formally joined an alliance but we're doing things our own way.

My guess is the US & rest of the Quad including Taiwan want us to enter into an alliance with a view to entrap us much like they did Ukraine provoking Russia into a war .

We're wary of both the Chinese & the US for obvious reasons & refused to join such an alliance. However I believe that won't prevent China from attacking us.

I don't envy this administration . There are no easy choices here. Where I think this administration deserves more than its share of brickbats is for their cavalier attitude to defence.

 

[shade2]

US armed forces already use the A&N Islands as an aviation logistics hub , for ship repairs , refuelling , etc .

Google Search

Moreover we've signed up with USN to for ship repairs overhauling etc which'd come in handy in peace & war time.

So we aren't fence sitting nor have we formally joined an alliance but we're doing things our own way.

My guess is the US & rest of the Quad including Taiwan want us to enter into an alliance with a view to entrap us much like they did Ukraine provoking Russia into a war .

We're wary of both the Chinese & the US for obvious reasons & refused to join such an alliance. However I believe that won't prevent China from attacking us.

I don't envy this administration . There are no easy choices here. Where I think this administration deserves more than its share of brickbats is for their cavalier attitude to defence.

What would stop them from attacking us if we had a strong military build up of our own to establish deterrence, i.e make it very costly for them to attack us.

Like they made it for the US to intervene in Taiwan anschluss.

Alas,Govt penny pinching in the wrong areas

 

[FalconSlayers]

Astagfirullah!

View: https://x.com/TheLegateIN/status/1938803366924005605

 

[Decahex]

Astagfirullah!

View: https://x.com/TheLegateIN/status/1938803366924005605

Why are paijaans running from muh academic discourse? Turns out, narrative warfare is a whole bunch of memes and faggotry that our retards got mindbroken over for nothing. When it comes to substance, those meme-y zoomer Pakis got embarrassed out of a fellow Moslem brother's air force university. It looks like a lot of countries now believe India's version of events. Even one of the last NYT articles on the conflict acknowledged damages on Paki bases while there being little to nothing on the Indian ones.

India and Pakistan Talked Big, but Satellite Imagery Shows Limited Damage

While the attacks were widespread, the damage was far more contained than both sides claimed.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Nibbler]

Cross post from IWT thread.

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Looks like some babu from MEA took protein and creatine supplement today.
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MEA says, "Today, the illegal Court of Arbitration, purportedly constituted under the Indus Waters Treaty 1960, albeit in brazen violation of it, has issued what it characterizes as a "supplemental award” on its competence concerning the Kishenganga and Ratle hydroelectric projects in the Indian Union Territory of Jammu and Kashmir. India has never recognised the existence in law of this so-called Court of Arbitration, and India’s position has all along been that the constitution of this so-called arbitral body is in itself a serious breach of the Indus Waters Treaty and consequently any proceedings before this forum and any award or decision taken by it are also for that reason illegal and per se void...India, therefore, categorically rejects this so-called supplemental award as it has rejected all prior pronouncements of this body..."


View: https://x.com/ANI/status/1938597832555975047?t=5F7WUrkkX0ps7sknIuB7sA&s=19

These long winded statement don't sound strong to me.

Just don't say anything.

Why ackowledge if you aren't going to follow anyway.

 

[Tumba]

The Notam is likely to test defenses, there was even a video of them shooting down some projectile or drone over their skies. They are trying to plug holes. Keep a close eye on their procurements.

pakis getting few batteries of HQ-16 will not change anything … will get through all the defences with ease …

 

[ezsasa]

Astagfirullah!

View: https://x.com/TheLegateIN/status/1938803366924005605

India's defence attache gave a detailed presentation at that conference in indonesia.

Analysis of the Pakistan–India Air Battle and Indonesia’s Anticipatory Strategies​

View: https://youtu.be/u0-H1r61miM?t=11720

 

[shade2]

Astagfirullah!

View: https://x.com/TheLegateIN/status/1938803366924005605

>be muslim nation
>Study your fellow muslim nation's beizzati by a Kuffr mulq
>In a cold, academic manner




Anyway these guys were also a prospective customer right? So basically we're showing them the results of a live demo

 

[Cheepek]

Astagfirullah!

View: https://x.com/TheLegateIN/status/1938803366924005605

 

[shade2]

India's defence attache gave a detailed presentation at that conference in indonesia.

Analysis of the Pakistan–India Air Battle and Indonesia’s Anticipatory Strategies​

View: https://youtu.be/u0-H1r61miM?t=11720

Also to the Thai Air Force


View: https://x.com/TheLegateIN/status/1938636240276103482

 

[Decahex]

Also to the Thai Air Force


View: https://x.com/TheLegateIN/status/1938636240276103482

India's defence attache gave a detailed presentation at that conference in indonesia.

Analysis of the Pakistan–India Air Battle and Indonesia’s Anticipatory Strategies​

View: https://youtu.be/u0-H1r61miM?t=11720

Why are paijaans running from muh academic discourse? Turns out, narrative warfare is a whole bunch of memes and faggotry that our retards got mindbroken over for nothing. When it comes to substance, those meme-y zoomer Pakis got embarrassed out of a fellow Moslem brother's air force university. It looks like a lot of countries now believe India's version of events. Even one of the last NYT articles on the conflict acknowledged damages on Paki bases while there being little to nothing on the Indian ones.

India and Pakistan Talked Big, but Satellite Imagery Shows Limited Damage

While the attacks were widespread, the damage was far more contained than both sides claimed.

www.nytimes.com

Astagfirullah!

View: https://x.com/TheLegateIN/status/1938803366924005605

Pass this along to every pathetic idiot who cried about narrative warfare last month. Dhotishivers need to own up and maybe try growing a pair for the next time.

 

[Simon Riley]

 

[Knowitall]

Is there any final report or conference scheduled to discuss Pakistani losses by Indian armed forces.

 

[Simon Riley]

Pass this along to every pathetic idiot who cried about narrative warfare last month. Dhotishivers need to own up and maybe try growing a pair for the next time.

Narrative warfare is for the civilian population, professional air forces around the world would come to the same conclusion as the thai and indonesian air forces.