Operation Sindoor and Aftermath (76 Viewers)

[Varoon4]

When I said some MEA guys severely restricted ROE during Operation Sindoor leading to the loss of few (<4) jets, everyone took it lightly.

I am pretty sure most of the 6 PAF jets downed were due to A2A systems. No Meteor, Astra or R-77 wreckage was found on the Pakistan side.

Figures why we see less laser eye memes and hot takes now and more of Wren and Martin in various languages.

I hope Indians on X/twitter are giving it to these naysayers, backbiters and gaslighters.( like the 2 displayed "kalam" and "aishwariya") They are making it mostly about "Modi", when the issue is Indian retribution toward Pakistan. Period.

 

[Ultraman]

Now entire BJP brigade here will give cover fire. Those who took this decision should be held responsible for loss of aircrafts as these few aircrafts are wort more than billion usd.Also government should openly announce number of aircrafts lost in may 7.Not announcing our loses are only hurting our narrative. BJP government's foolish decisions r led to loss of narrative war in both sindoor, balakot operations.

"we bombed them so they will only bomb us and not shoot down our jets"

IAF was naive here . hard to believe they didnt consider possibility that pak would retaliate against our jets and that wasnt communicated to leadership.

Probably the reason the govt is hiding the aircraft losses . It's their fault.

govt wont release because people's brain cant accept these things .

3 or 4 aircrafts crashed in our territory , and people even here were doing mental gymnastics .

rafale one has to be the biggest shock .

 

[DancingPeacock]

"we bombed them so they will only bomb us and not shoot down our jets"

IAF was naive here . hard to believe they didnt consider possibility that pak would retaliate against our jets and that wasnt communicated to leadership.




govt wont release because people's brain cant accept these things .

3 or 4 aircrafts crashed in our territory , and people even here were doing mental gymnastics .

rafale one has to be the biggest shock .

Infact so called TRUCK load RCS dodged everything from Balakot to Sindhoor, and jokers stopped production line of it and settled for Rafale and now STILL shilling for Rafale. Atleast restart Su-30 production lines, I don't get argument of Muh extorbitant costs of maintenance when your sanctioned strength is 42 and you have barely only 20 some squadrons.

 

[shade2]

I hope Indians on X/twitter are giving it to these naysayers, backbiters and gaslighters.( like the 2 displayed "kalam" and "aishwariya") They are making it mostly about "Modi", when the issue is Indian retribution toward Pakistan. Period.

Piddis & Piggies make everything about Modi as if the man himself was flying the jets and bombing the pakis in Op Sindoor

Pic related, what congis want you to think happened

 

[DancingPeacock]

Don't know what kind of thinking goes into those who restricted Rules of Engagement. Does they think Pakistan happily let IAF bomb those targets? Are Pakis that stupid? Don't they have minimum common sense that when EVEN IF IAF targets Terrorist sites only, that Pakis will retaliate on the incoming Military Assets?

 

[shade2]

Don't know what kind of thinking goes into those who restricted Rules of Engagement. Does they think Pakistan happily let IAF bomb those targets? Are Pakis that stupid? Don't they have minimum common sense that when EVEN IF IAF targets Terrorist sites only, that Pakis will retaliate on the incoming Military Assets?

It is to show foreign govts that

>we iz good bois saar
>we iz not warmonger/aggressor saar
>we don't want escalation saar

Truth is nobody cares except the US but for them it doesn't matter whether you hit paki military assets or not, just that you hit the piggies did.

These retarded ROEs are the result of some MEA/IFS types persuading the Leaderji.

Same ROEs were in place during Balakot also, same set of official emphasis on "we hit terrorist camps onleee" and "we don't want escalation".

Hopefully because of the blowing up of this bs it should stop during the next round of fighting and IAF can be allowed to do SEAD/DEAD as it should have done always.

 

[neelaslayer]

Probably the reason the govt is hiding the aircraft losses . It's their fault.

They have to come out with full report now this ain't porkistan that govt or army will be hiding its stuff like porkis are doing now and they must be ashamed to give such roe.


View: https://x.com/Pawankhera/status/1939251767784665202?t=1xCof5SMTCUe7WDVOZ7TVw&s=19

 

[Varoon4]

How many and where is the wreckage? Again, the opposition makes this about government and aircraft losses. What about objectives, 9 terror camps with 24 impact points, 11 air bases and other military installations.

But yes, they should reveal the losses, aircraft, drones. India is not Pakistan or China.

 

[Varoon4]

What the government and armed forces could do is to keep emphasising objectives achieved, like Gen Bakshi and Gen Narayanan do so well, among many others. Instead of getting sucked into 'how many aircraft were lost'

 

[neelaslayer]

What the government and armed forces could do is to keep emphasising objectives achieved, like Gen Bakshi and Gen Narayanan do so well, among many others. Instead of getting sucked into 'how many aircraft were lost'

They must stop attending these seminars until they force the govt to release full report if operation sindoor is not over then why are these defence attaches and cds are talking about this.
Shameful roe and media planning by govt and armed forces.

 

[Brood Father]

Not to defend government but this is very shoddy from IAF not to account for any retaliation from Pak.
I mean this is a fuck up from both side
How can you commit your Frontline AF without any proper protection like Sead and Dead.

 

[Miss Firing]

It is to show foreign govts that

>we iz good bois saar
>we iz not warmonger/aggressor saar
>we don't want escalation saar

Truth is nobody cares except the US but for them it doesn't matter whether you hit paki military assets or not, just that you hit the piggies did.

These retarded ROEs are the result of some MEA/IFS types persuading the Leaderji.

Same ROEs were in place during Balakot also, same set of official emphasis on "we hit terrorist camps onleee" and "we don't want escalation".

Hopefully because of the blowing up of this bs it should stop during the next round of fighting and IAF can be allowed to do SEAD/DEAD as it should have done always.

And how did this workout for GOI/India? Orange ape (who has rented out his hole to crypto) choose to hyphenate terrorist with victim. Imagine, he wanted Modi to "come over" & have dinner with that terrorist. I wonder how those sections who persuaded Modi for this show their face now. I mean, they are not answerable to the people but Modi is, so it should be okay for them.



Yes, ofc, but armed forces types can also be persuading as well, showing the fallout of not doing SEAD etc properly. Unless they have & were over ruled by the political leadership. (which is what would have obviously happened).

There must have been some uncertainty about the "trajectory" of as to how things would unfold had we done an across the board SEAD given the "two front" problem. Hence "we are not seeking escalation"/" we hit only terrorist bases" etc.

But what is strange is this attache speaking like this in public. (people can easily guess that political leadership had put some limitations).

Get this now, Modi is being blamed for "attacking" Pakistan by outsiders & some insiders while he is also being blamed for "not attacking Pakistan enough" by some insiders.

Either way, trying to hurt him politically. This is the prize that he gets for punishing USA's bitch.

 

[ezsasa]

It is to show foreign govts that

>we iz good bois saar
>we iz not warmonger/aggressor saar
>we don't want escalation saar

Truth is nobody cares except the US but for them it doesn't matter whether you hit paki military assets or not, just that you hit the piggies did.

These retarded ROEs are the result of some MEA/IFS types persuading the Leaderji.

Same ROEs were in place during Balakot also, same set of official emphasis on "we hit terrorist camps onleee" and "we don't want escalation".

Hopefully because of the blowing up of this bs it should stop during the next round of fighting and IAF can be allowed to do SEAD/DEAD as it should have done always.

just out of curiosity, if the official confirmation comes about later that no jets were lost during the raid on the 7th, what will be the reaction from angry birds here be?

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

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And how did this workout for GOI/India? Orange ape (who has rented out his hole to crypto) choose to hyphenate terrorist with victim. Imagine, he wanted Modi to "come over" & have dinner with that terrorist. I wonder how those sections who persuaded Modi for this show their face now. I mean, they are not answerable to the people but Modi is, so it should be okay for them.

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Yes, ofc, but armed forces types can also be persuading as well, showing the fallout of not doing SEAD etc properly. Unless they have & were over ruled by the political leadership. (which is what would have obviously happened).

There must have been some uncertainty about the "trajectory" of as to how things would unfold had we done an across the board SEAD given the "two front" problem. Hence "we are not seeking escalation"/" we hit only terrorist bases" etc.

But what is strange is this attache speaking like this in public. (people can easily guess that political leadership had put some limitations).

Get this now, Modi is being blamed for "attacking" Pakistan by outsiders & some insiders while he is also being blamed for "not attacking Pakistan enough" by some insiders.

Either way, trying to hurt him politically. This is the prize that he gets for punishing USA's bitch.

What two front ?

 

[shade2]

But what is strange is this attache speaking like this in public. (people can easily guess that political leadership had put some limitations).


Get this now, Modi is being blamed for "attacking" Pakistan by outsiders & some insiders while he is also being blamed for "not attacking Pakistan enough" by some insiders.

Either way, trying to hurt him politically. This is the prize that he gets for punishing USA's bitch.

It is not the MEA baboos who have kids settled in the West you know.

Many more are there in the ((( unelected professional ))) grouping and their underlings will always His Masters Voice what their immediate bosses tell them to.

You scare the Leaderji with sankshuns and embargo and investor pigeons running away lies into green-lighting your retarded ROEs, then you opposition allies go after him for any failures resulting from this

 

[Clawreed]

just out of curiosity, if the official confirmation comes about later that no jets were lost during the raid on the 7th, what will be the reaction from angry birds here be?

But that's not happening. There's at least 3 aircraft wreckages( there's no logic in hiding enemy asset loss) . It's okay to incur losses . They say losses are part of any conflict but they are reluctant to tell the truth.

 

[Ajatshatru]

But that's not happening. There's at least 3 aircraft wreckages( there's no logic in hiding enemy asset loss) . It's okay to incur losses . They say losses are part of any conflict but they are reluctant to tell the truth.

I think Operation Sindoor is still ongoing, which is why the government hasn’t disclosed the losses on either side yet.

 

[silentassassin265]

I think investigations has already indicated this to be a saboutage. We are at this point just gathering solid proof.

Calling out Pakistan / ISI openly at global stage will stir massive storm, especially that a sizeable british population was also killed in the crash. World will notice.



This is what bothers me. Previous attacks like Reasi Bus attack was brushed under the carpet quickly because the threshold of military action wasn't breached, and we didn't wanted to flame country's emotions.

In my opinion, we don't have to give a military response for the crash. We should shame them on global stage linking Pakistani military and ISI with the crash. Since goras are involved world will notice.

British population killed was not white i think so I doubt they will care.
We have to take on porks alone with possible sanctions and arms embargo.

 

[South Block]

Why should we disclose our losses when Pakistan hasn't admitted a single one of theirs? Since you all are so keen on numbers ......we lost one Rafale, one MiG-29, and one Mirage 2000........The Rafale ran out of fuel flying low to dodge a Pakistani strike, all thanks to the absurdly soft Rules of Engagement ( ROE) we were forced to operate under........ Our jets were told to hit only "terrorist targets" while carefully avoiding Pakistan's military assets because someone I won't name as we already know who they are thought international virtue signaling mattered more than battlefield logic. And that hesitation? It cost us big initially which we rectified two days later...... It's a stark reminder that in war, restraint driven by image management can come at a heavy cost.

 

[redpanda]

I'm thinking can Pakistan start a war with us to deplete our strength a bit. And then China will launch its assault just after the end of conflict?