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He can't go against anything his boss has decided, are we imputing malice to him just because he has been the most public face in this conflict?
if i read your post correctly, it says he may not be the guy responsible, that he may not even be in direct contact with modi.

this pic is from as soon as they landed in India from saudi. the person everyone is looking at including the PM is foreign secretary vikram misri.

no, there is no malice intended from my side.

as far as the discussion on his daughter is concerned, i had written in DFI many years ago that there seems to be a pattern. lutyens commies specifically target children of babus to bring them into their fold, there are many such cases. could also be the reason, babus send their children away from delhi.
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Bhai there is no nuclear leak taking place in pakistan
Now we all are going overboard, especially some Indians on twitter
Also you can't denuclarize pakistan by just striking at their 2-3 places, that would take a whole operation alone and most likely will require US / Israel on our side, not playing negotiating characters
 
I really don't know why people went after Vikram Misri, he's not the guy responsible, he might not even have a direct contact with Modi. If anyone's pissed about diplomats then S Jaishankar is the one they should target. Vikram Misri is like a PR man, he has to speak in friendly language, what his bosses tell him to!

Completely agree. Blaming IPS officers who merely execute the decisions of political leadership is stupid. MEA comes under the FM and he is responsible for inputs that go to the PM.

My opinion possibly be a minority opinion but I doubt Pakis has any working nuclear war head. Having Technology, doing controlled blasts and having parts of system with help(or theft) of Iran and North korea is 1 thing , having a workable War head that can operate and hit a country is entire different.

also there is possibility USA after 9/11 and while operating in AF already take care of this, Pakistan is just bluffing - which is their national pass time.

I beleive they have nukes but not minaturized warheads required for missiles. Worst they could probably donia a dirty bomb smuggled into India via terrorists.
 
What am i reading here?
Has the collective IQ of forum members hit napak levels?

Misri is just a glorified sarkari clerk, drawing gormint salary+perks.

He is just a His Master's Voice (HMV). Remember this cassette brand from 80s/90s?

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Completely agree. Blaming IPS officers who merely execute the decisions of political leadership is stupid. MEA comes under the FM and he is responsible for inputs that go to the PM.

just for my understanding, what exactly is that EAM is blamed for here?
 

The level of shamelessness the Pakis have is appalling. Really really good at acting in front of cameras and PR. Wonder what they would be telling themselves when they are alone and looking at themselves in the mirror?
One thing Pakistan definitely got out of this conflict, at least in the short term, is a united Paki jihadi Punjab. Few months ago they were falling apart. However, I believe this wont last long. A strong foundation cant be built on lies. Its bound to fail at some point.
 
if i read your post correctly, it says he may not be the guy responsible, that he may not even be in direct contact with modi.

this pic is from as soon as they landed in India from saudi. the person everyone is looking at including the PM is foreign secretary vikram misri.

no, there is no malice intended from my side.

as far as the discussion on his daughter is concerned, i had written in DFI many years ago that there seems to be a pattern. lutyens commies specifically target children of babus to bring them into their fold, there are many such cases. could also be the reason, babus send their children away from delhi.
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What I said was in the context of the ceasefire, he may have nothing to do with the decision at all.
Yes FS is an important post, but Modi has more important people around him whose opinion/advice he must have taken before deciding to go ahead with the ceasefire, including the Foreign Minister who has far bigger conflict of interest than Misri.
But to target Misri and remain mum on Jaishankar, is nothing but finding soft targets to satiate your impotent rage.
I agree with your broader context re: children of bureaucrats.
 
I really don't know why people went after Vikram Misri, he's not the guy responsible, he might not even have a direct contact with Modi. If anyone's pissed about diplomats then S Jaishankar is the one they should target. Vikram Misri is like a PR man, he has to speak in friendly language, what his bosses tell him to!
This is the result of dichotomy of blind demagoguery.
On one hand, you feel absolute disgust over ceasefire, which comes directly from Modi and on the other hand you have the uncontrollable urge to fawn over everything Modi does.
You will get many specimens of these people, they are the ones attacking Misri. They couldn't muster the courage to speak against something blatantly capitulating like ceasefire of Modi, not against an ineffective Jaishankar who picked Rubio calls. They found their scapegoat in Misri.
2-3 such folks you will see posted here also.

Almost everyone who posts in this forum is a proud BJP voter, including me. But nowhere are we near to these cringeworthy supporters who, mark my words, will change ship when the tide eventually turns some decades later.
 
just for my understanding, what exactly is that EAM is blamed for here?

The ceasefire when we had the upper hand. They would obviously provide their recommendation to the PM.

My point was if you are blaming IPS officers, you should blame ministers.
 
Tom Cooper's assessment of this war

Cia guy you can read the rest in his substack.


May 7, 2025, Part II

Compared to the conditions in April-May 2025, the situation between India and Pakistan was "simple" in February 2019. At least from the perspective of the establishment in Islamabad. Following a mediocre IAF airstrike on terrorist camps, the PAF shot down an Indian MiG-21 interceptor. During the same encounter, the PAF almost certainly lost an F-16 (sorry, but videos show "two parachutes" and civilians also report "two paratroopers"). However, the ISI was able to easily seal off the mountainous area in question: all evidence of the PAF loss was quickly eliminated. In addition, allies in the US and elsewhere rushed to assist the "holy Pakistani F-16s," and the matter ended with an official "1-0 for Pakistan."

The fact that the PAF not only likely lost that F-16, but also had to abandon its own retaliatory strikes on India when it realized that the IAF might not have been truly "ready," but was still "present in sufficient numbers" to be dangerous to most PAF formations and to force the Pakistanis to abort their missions, was conveniently swept under the carpet.

As a result, Islamabad was able to avoid disgrace.

After the IAF airstrikes early in the morning of May 7, 2025, and despite the claim that "5 IAF fighter-bombers were shot down," this was not the case. Certainly, official Islamabad and the Pakistani public, not to mention the People's Republic of China and therefore most of social media, were "going wild" after India's "victory over the invincible Rafales." However, inside the country, the ISI and therefore the establishment had to face fierce reactions (a real "rage") from their own jihadists, many of whom were killed. Of course, here in the West, we might think that "jihadists are disposable." And perhaps a large section of the ISI leadership thinks the same. But they also know that they can never dare go out into the streets again without "paying homage" to the jihadists they created. One need only note that the Pakistani armed forces dispatched a large number of their officers to the funerals of the main jihadists killed in the IAF airstrikes to be convinced of this.

Besides, who can say whether some ISI officers were not also killed?

Finally, there is the issue of "recovering deterrent force."

One way or another, "this time," Islamabad "had to strike back" at India. So, on the evening of May 7, Pakistani forces began launching dozens, and then hundreds, of attack drones toward India. The number and types are not entirely clear: official New Delhi spoke of "300-400" (which were shot down), while others claimed more than 500. The types identified were the Yiha III and the Songar. It is possible, even likely, that the Pakistanis combined these strikes with volleys from Fateh-1 multiple rocket launchers (reported range: about 120-140 km; their function is essentially comparable to that of the Russian-made BM -27 and BM -30).

By this time, India's integrated air defense system was at least in place and on alert. This system, which has been under constant development and upgrades since the 1990s, is one of the most sophisticated in the world. It incorporates Russian S-400s (with a range of up to 380 km), Indo-Israeli Barak-8 surface-to-air missiles (SAMs) (the Barak-8 has a claimed range of 70 km), Indian Akash SAMs (with a range of 25 km; it is a much-improved "derivative" of the Kub/SA-6 2K12), Israeli Spyder SAMs (with a range of 15 km), and numerous Bofors L70 40 mm anti-aircraft guns. Accordingly, this attack received a "very warm welcome." "Hundreds" of Pakistani rockets and drones were shot down as they approached (from north to south): Awantipura, Srinagar, Jammu, Pathankot, Amritsar, Kapurthala, Jalandhar, Ludhiana, Adampur, Bhatinda, Chandigarh, Nal, Phalodi, Uttarlai and Bhuj.... Sources differ on whether "26" or "36" locations in India were attacked, but essentially it seems to be the same everywhere: overall, the damage caused by the Pakistani attacks appears to have been minimal (although civilian objects were damaged, mainly by flying debris).

BTW, it was amusing to see "half of India" celebrating the S-400s, when in reality, most of the kills were Akashs, Spyders and good old Bofors L70s (now available as BEL-upgraded L70s). The latter are not only renowned for their reliability, but also for their high engagement capability. And importantly, what is important for wars of this scale, they are much cheaper to use than any type of SAM. They are de facto "ideal" for point defense against modern attack drones
Not everyone is as stupid as your goat shagging awam to believe braindead propaganda.

You need bare minimum intelligence to tell lies which unfortunately for you nobody in your cuntry has.

Unlike you we don't need validation from random goras because firstly unlike you we don't have inferiority complex secondly, we got HD satellite images and other videos of PAF and PA getting blasted.

So no matter how much you kang about "Tom Cooper" nobody except your goatshagger awam will believe it.

Leave military and OSINT first try and tell the difference between wife, sister and goat.

I would be impressed if you had the reading comrehension to understand what I just wrote.
 
Guess the IAF is not too worried about fifth generation aircraft . Yemen AD was able to track and target and nearly knock out an F-35..

Yemen defeated the Americans and forced the orange clown to abandon the Yemen air campaign based on the flimsy promise to spare American ships only.. other Israel linked ships would still be targeted

NO NEED for panic F-35 buying
Place huge orders for LCA mark 2 and hasten AMCA development

 

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Why ? Do u think op sindoor is over ?
It will restart mark my words . Porkis will again do something stupid. They have habit of it.
Defence forces are ready and still actively engaged.
I don't think it's over, but I don't think it will restart within a week or even two weeks.
Many things will change over the weekend, the circumstances then will be different.

Pakistan will keep doing stupid things, but Modi is unlikely to react.
 
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