Operation Sindoor

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There were some crazy ideas around capturing Lahore....and the land grab can be exchanged for PoK....then border sealing should start. Idea is to convert loc into IB. :indian-flag:
 
De-escalation from their side? What are you smoking? They again targeted with drones at around 4AM in the morning. We repealed them again like last night. This is frustrating the heck out of them. They are relying on some anonymous French and American officials in Western media to tell the world they shot Rafale. Porki scums are not getting any leeway. We have to humiliate them in front of the whole world. GoI has not indicated anywhere for de-escalation. Diplomatic language in pressers are common. Inside war rooms situation will be different.

Our side most likely is taking stock of their situation and might be planning their next move. We can't recklessly plan a mission without clear objectives. If IAF or IN decides to act, what will be their objective? Last time destroying terrorist infrastructure. This time? What are we going to bomb? Retaliation will come in due time. There should be element of surprise again for the Porkis to be caught with their pants down. Let's wait and see.
I also wish we don't stop now. Pakistan should not be given any offramp. They are asking their western masters to ensure an off ramp for them.

It should be the Pakistan who should deescalate first. It should be colonist punjabi army of pakistan that should accept humiliation. India should not. India should not give these terrorists any off ramp. Any material of life losses inflicted on these paoroaches don't act as a detterent to them.

There is only one solution. Defanging and breaking of the pakistan. Anything below it will be just postponing the inevitable.
 
So, whats the situation ?


I dont think de escalation will be happening soon. Any info will work
 
Since there was next to no damage from Porkis last night, even after the drone attack, I now think it may be a "fixed match", and both sides might be climbing down.
The mass hysteria of fake offensive actions last night might be a part of the same setup.
Hard to trust own media now, better to wait and watch response of Porkis. If nothing comes, then it is likely that only...

Since Porkies are denying yesterday's attack, they haven't responded to either bombing of terror sites and the drone attacks we did yesterday on their AD.

I don't know about 'fixed match'
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I am asking because pakistan is denying any hand in last night bombing of india even though they know they had to retaliate that means they are in no position to fight the war and are knowingly denying the attack to save themselves from indian bombing.
And the mass hysteria presented by indian media last night gives the picture of badla le liya hai india ne for a common man.

Its all pointing out to a de escalation from both sides because india would have bombed the shit out of pakistani airbases if it wanted to escalate when first drone striked but it didnt.

And all the news of india media of various attacks and pilot captured are turning out to be false.

Well put, there hasn't been any retraction of the so called Indian retaliation that our media peddled last night. So most would believe we did retaliate.

To be honest, it seems as much a psyops on us than the Porkies.

We can only wait and watch but from what I am reading, it will be de-escalation.

I'd love to be proven wrong since I believe that would be a mistake.
 
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I am asking because pakistan is denying any hand in last night bombing of india even though they know they had to retaliate that means they are in no position to fight the war and are knowingly denying the attack to save themselves from indian bombing.
And the mass hysteria presented by indian media last night gives the picture of badla le liya hai india ne for a common man.

Its all pointing out to a de escalation from both sides because india would have bombed the shit out of pakistani airbases if it wanted to escalate when first drone striked but it didnt.

And all the news of india media of various attacks and pilot captured are turning out to be false.
Government of India has stated in its official statements since last night that Pakistan tried attacking our military bases. Pakistan denying responsibility doesn't mean India is deescalating. Look at what Indian officials are saying, nothing else, when you are trying to predict India's moves.

Patience is a virtue that you must practice if you want to engage in analysis. War is not a low attention span, instant gratification loop like SM, etc.
 
It seems weird that we haven't started anything yet after the paki drone swarm attempt. Something is surely cooking.

I really hope we don't de-escalate. It will be a huge miss.
Of course.. the govt pressers has been emphasizing non escalatory and de escalation since long.. and already while world pressuring us and talking about pulling investment if escalation happens.. so India will choose the right option.. but we also know Pak will keep giving us the opportunity
 

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We absolutely have to escalate, we have to be the ones throwing the last punch and pakis have to say uncle. They need to feel demoralized enough to not even entertain the thought of firing a bullet, ANYWHERE.

We shouldn't be doing it to minimize the threat of escalation, we should be doing this to stop pakis from thinking they can fk with us anytime in the future, IF AT ALL.
 
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There were some crazy ideas around capturing Lahore....and the land grab can be exchanged for PoK....then border sealing should start. Idea is to convert loc into IB. :indian-flag:

That would be foolish and Modi will always be remembered as the one who lost Indian territory officially.

It would also achieve nothing as Porkies won't stop their terrorism.
 
Government of India has stated in its official statements since last night that Pakistan tried attacking our military bases. Pakistan denying responsibility doesn't mean India is deescalating. Look at what Indian officials are saying, nothing else, when you are trying to predict India's moves.

Patience is a virtue that you must practice if you want to engage in analysis. War is not a low attention span, instant gratification loop like SM, etc.
Exactly this is not the time to do pessimistic speculation. Let's have faith in the process. Retaliation takes planning. There still needs to be some risk assessment. We are & will retaliate I have full faith in our forces.

@haldilal bhau please advise people to not post too many pessimistic "setting hogayi" "de-escale kar degi sarkar" type posts on the thread.
 
my assessment is that there is still some action yet to take place. 2 reasons behind that:
  • Pak needs something to save face in front of their junta. till now they have been able to only convey that they were able to intercept our drones, but that much may not be enough. hence they may try to strike
  • India had committed to punishing terrorist infra in pak. with only 9 sites targeted out of 21, job's only half done. plus they wouldn't call it 'Phase 1' of Op Sindoor without further plans
will reiterate that it is extremely important for us to win the perception war too here, and especially within pak awaam. only then will Pak army lose the support and stranglehold it has on the country and will then the terror infra diminish.

also, i dont think Pak has been able to shoot down any of our planes till now. had they done it, they would have presented some evidence of the same (even electronic) and tried to sell that churan to the world. also, there's been no conclusive video evidence online so far, except the purported Rafale M88 engine debris. that itself is highly questionable, since there is no other video/image avl of the rest of the aircraft.

not sure our folks have also shot down any PAF jets, as they remain tightlipped about it. thing is though, if they indeed have shot someone down, and the pilot is taken prisoner, then we are obligated under geneva conventions to notify Pak. this is supposed to happen ideally promptly, though i dont know if there is a set timeline, and hence i cant say if we're in violation of the protocols (not that Pak adhered to it either during Abhinandan either)




i hope to hell i am proven wrong about some of the things (except on Pak not able to shoot down any IAF jets), and that there is decisive and punishing action on these goatlovers (and quickly). these are just speculations of an enthusiast, and aaj ka din is going very slow! :p
 
I told my parents , kal raat kam se kam 50 percent jhoot tha
Mai nai bolta ki sab jhooth tha lekin halka halka doubt hone laga hai .
But but but , I still have hope
Total hope,the way india has acted in last few days like its national animal .
That's why I have hope
Might have been psy ops.. the govt outlets did not confirm anything though.. could be due to non escalatory approach.. keeping their losses from limelight to give them a face saver.. but I trust after the ops real things will come out
 
Of course.. the govt pressers has been emphasizing non escalatory and de escalation since long.. and already while world pressuring us and talking about pulling investment if escalation happens.. so India will choose the right option.. but we also know Pak will keep giving us the opportunity

Where the heck did you get this below BS?

"already while world pressuring us and talking about pulling investment if escalation happens."

Give me one bloody source or delete your comment. Don't write non sense without understanding how the world works. None of what you said is factually true. Have some shame and delete your comment.
 
To the RR squad,
How many times do you need to be proven wrong now?
The trend of action and retaliation that's going on is being beautifully tuned and calibrated with complete control from the Indian side of the IB. India will escalate right up to the point where we can justify taking back PoK. As of now, Pakistan has escalated to the threshold of targeting military installations and (allegedly) places of religious significance with saturation drone attacks, followed by missiles. India has already demonstrated that we can take out Pakistani AD and do precision missile strikes deep inside Pakistan with impunity. Now, the logical step for India would be a large-scale SEAD/DEAD attack followed by precision strikes on their military installations.

Btw, notice we have no time or news about any kind of press briefing today yet. Yesterday, the briefing came after we took out the AD system in Lahore. So, I think we're waiting to send the appropriate reply and then let the world know about everything that transpired last night.
 
My two cents on things so far

We demonstrated our offensive capabilities by striking deep inside their cities and their air defences were pretty much useless. There can be no doubt now that if GoI green lights it, we can pretty much gaza-fy their cities at will.

Our defences have so far proven to be un-penetrable. This should be a huge confidence booster for the general public like you and I. Our families are safe under 99.99% situations, unless a massive barrage of ballistic missiles are fired which might overwhelm our ADs - but even then most will be intercepted, only some may sneak past.

Yesterday's misinformation was a calculated campaign the goal of which was not psy-ops. I strongly suspect it was to kill credibility of journalists, MSM, social media handles, etc. Now who is going to believe ANI / Shiv Aroor / Aditya Kaul types when they say F-16 / our plane shot down or pilots captured or whatever. Similarly, any psy-op campaign by the enemy will be brushed off in a similar vein.

This I guess is important in current scenario as government would like to control flow of information for whatever reasons. In 1971, the only way people were apprised of sit-rep was by radio and newspapers which were centrally controlled. At this stage, for me the only credible info would be what is released officially and everything else stays sus.

And we have the casus belli. I don't think even a government like Congress or AAP would be able to wiggle out of this situation without a strong hard response to porkies, let alone BJP. They will have to force either some sort of surrender, destroy some key very public targets (read: military/civil infra) or capture some land. Anything else will be seen as a soft backtracking.

And they may take time to mount a response, could be hours could be a couple of days. But we will respond.
 
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