Operation Sindoor

[Sanglamorre]

Lol, half of the forum is busy shielding Modi. If America chickened out, why did Modi agree to the ceasefire?! Accept it for what it is, Modi chickened out!

Nah, GoI is astroturfing the forum. Otherwise there can't be that many people who think this was good at any level and they weren't sold out by the current government.

I'm... Not really sure what to do if my own government wants brush things under carpet because the babu's children live in US and USA threatened.

Tomorrow I can be executed and these baboons will say no ceasefire, only fell from cliff.

 

[Vinash]

@Mods block this thread please, everyone needs a breather.

When you tag @Mods or @Admins, absolutely no admin or mod gets notified.

You need to tag individual admins or mods. Check if the link is clickable after you say @mods @admins or in this case @Vinash . Of these 3, only the @Vinash is clickable and that's when admins get notified.

 

[Suryavanshi]

I am honestly surprised why others are not discussing it right now. RR can wait. This theory seems way too convincing and perfectly explains the sudden schizo reaction from the burgerboys.

Discuss it yes, but to what end and what means?
At the end of the day this is just going to be a conspiracy theory. Maybe write a book or two about it but is it something that others will acknowledge? Remember conspiracy theories is something only small portion of the population subscribes to. Unless we want to probe what that concerning intel was about.

 

[jazzy_b]

THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO DE-NUCLARIZE / DENY PAKISTAN TO USE NUKES BY IAF.
Kirana Hill is their nuclear storage facility, and we droped bombs around that hill and destroyed the sargodha airstrip.
This was done just before panic ceasefire tweet by trump...

So Either pakis were mobilizing their nukes and we decided to escalate it by attacking their nuke facility

 

[WARREN SS]

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[Muzh]

Not image , it's how much do we want to lose proportionally . We can destroy Pakistan but we will not escape unscathed and will be set back 30 years .

Pakistan by itself is a piece of cake to deal with. No body in India, especially in the military, is impressed with Pakistan's nuclear saber rattling. The problem is Pakistan's backers. Do you think, it was a coincidence that Pakistan received 1B US dollars in loan in the middle of an armed conflict with India?

I am not trying to sell pessimism to you or anyone else. On the contrary, I would like you and others to consider the reality, a positive reality, which shows that we have come a long way. There was a time, we used to get military threats when in the middle of kicking Pakistan's ass. Those days are behind us. Now, we get economic threats. We just need to work on it and become economically stronger. Then, one day, if someone threatens us with dire economic consequences, we would simply show them the birdie.

We have to live in the world the way it is, not the way we wish the world were.

 

[sameer]

Or did pak's nuke bluff work again? Notice how they did not even bother to approach them first - Vance dialed up Modi, directly and there is no readout available.

I don't think It'll never be revealed. Either all of this a bunch of hot air or JD vance/rubio will write a book in 10 years from now claiming "How I averted the nuclear war". Egotistic yanks are always the same. Mike popmpeo wrote similar shit in his recent book about 2019 strikes.

 

[niks_12]

The forces did an amazing job even with their hands tied. Kudos to them for all of this. They are the real heroes. We should always keep them in our thought and prayers.

A few opinions:

1. Dear leaderji chickened out from a broader conflict. We as defence jingos are okay with a broader fight, but sad to say that the political and bureaucratic leadership just have no apetite for this.

2. I think leaderji wanted to show taking a tough stance and leave it at that. They didn't expect this to pan out into a broader conflict. It was the foolishness from the Porkis and our armed forces given a free hand that got us the successes.

Think the leaders got scared and toned it down as they were not confident of the fallout. Questions such as what if it goes nuclear? What if US puts sanctions? What if we lose industries? What happens to our kids? etc.

That's why the restraints later, repeated offer of off-ramps, the control on information flow, no proper updates etc.

3. Also with an eye to the next election. Seem tough but actually not an apetite for 'ar ya paar ki larai'. Just do enough to have a strongman image and positive public sentiment to move to the next election.

AND continue building economy since leaders think that is the barometer by which they are measured in an election. So not lose the industries coming to India for example.

4. However, perhaps good to not have started this if we are still not ready for an 'ar par ki larai'. A surgical strike would do just fine. Unnecessary loss of more lives.

For this kind of a conflict, you need to have real GUTS and a real PLAN in place to take it to a logical conclusion.

I don't see that thresholds have changed, maybe I am wrong on this. We STILL SEEM under a nuclear threshold umbrella. Also, de facto war after terrorist attack? We already had an attack where tangos fired on a sentry after ceasefire. What really counts as a terrorist attack then? When we have casualties?

Finally, perhaps good to groom the next gen of leaders in BJP, like Yogi who can be more gutsy, have no overhang from the past, and be decisive.

Over and out.

 

[Sanglamorre]

THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO DE-NUCLARIZE / DENY PAKISTAN TO USE NUKES BY IAF.
Kirana Hill is their nuclear storage facility, and we droped bombs around that hill and destroyed the sargodha airstrip.
This was done just before panic ceasefire tweet by trump...

So Either pakis were mobilizing their nukes and we decided to escalate it by attacking their nuke facility

So... What exactly did the USA do to bend GoI over?

That's the issue. There have been no publically announced terms. All we have is GoI trickling down info informally so that they can easily deny she sneak in a few untrue, feel good clauses for the public.

What did USA say that was more threatening than nukes? Because if we hit them, we were ready for the eventuality.

 

[Lord Voldemort]

THERE WAS AN ATTEMPT TO DE-NUCLARIZE / DENY PAKISTAN TO USE NUKES BY IAF.
Kirana Hill is their nuclear storage facility, and we droped bombs around that hill and destroyed the sargodha airstrip.
This was done just before panic ceasefire tweet by trump...

So Either pakis were mobilizing their nukes and we decided to escalate it by attacking their nuke facility

But the Ceasefire must have been decided beforehand only not announced. Trump as usual had to do it first to appear as a master dealmaker, the self centered orangeball that he is

 

[Interested]

Right, so a next attack will see only MEA saying pls don't do this pakistan?

What you're saying is that, there were no clauses put in as deterrent to terror then? What exactly was the point of this then?

Phir toh tax lena bandh karde sarkar aur military bhi jab hum hi bache bullets soak karne k liye.

The deterrent is that Pakistan can't hide behind their nuclear weapons and avoid India striking them anywhere in the heartland . Punjab was stuck for the first time since 1971. Do you think they will dare do a 26/11 on India now ?

 

[Suryavanshi]

What Pakis will improve in the coming days, months, years or however long the era of bhddha goes on.
1) improving counter drones capability
2) improving air defense
3) development of ballistic missiles that can targete deeper into india.
4) nuclear delivery means development
5) securing nukes in a better way
6) cooperation with China to mass produce drone or at least assemble it locally
7) development of an anti aircraft strategy
8) better sop regarding drone countermeasure for public

Just the few I can.

We could have pushed them back by a decade but now we have given them reason to be future ready.

 

[karn]

What Pakis will improve in the coming days, months, years or however long the era of bhddha goes on.
1) improving counter drones capability
2) improving air defense
3) development of ballistic missiles that can targete deeper into india.
4) nuclear delivery means development
5) securing nukes in a better way
6) cooperation with China to mass produce drone or at least assemble it locally
7) development of an anti aircraft strategy
8) better sop regarding drone countermeasure for public

Just the few I can.

We could have pushed them back by a decade but now we have given them reason to be future ready.

Replace pakis with chinees and you have a point . The pigs can do fuck all by themselves.
Also it is us with our MIC that will improve by ourselves.
We can have straight up lasers and EW to take care of any chink shit drones. An actual BM defence umbrella that can proof us against nuclear BMs along with with more domestically produced arty etc etc .
And again its the pigs that can't do this by themselves.

 

[Muzh]

I'm 100% sure that it has something to do with nukes considering sensitivity & secrecy of the issues that most articles have discussed about. Nobody wants to see nuclear clouds.

No. It had nothing to do with nukes. The objective of the operation was to deliver punitive strikes on Pakistan and let them know that we did not wish to escalate. This is what we did. If Pakistan had not escalated, we would have stopped after hitting 9 terrorist camps.

 

[Sanglamorre]

The deterrent is that Pakistan can't hide behind their nuclear weapons and avoid India striking them anywhere in the heartland . Punjab was stuck for the first time since 1971. Do you think they will dare do a 26/11 on India now ?

Bruh.

They attacked us post ceasefire and GoI themselves scrambled over to hide it.

They'll execute more of us and GoI will hide it like Reasi. This was very public otherwise GoI would have hidden it too-looking at how MEA ran to USA for ceasefire.

 

[Suryavanshi]

All this requires money. Pakistan has very little of it .

If it's all about money than Porkistan shouldn't exist but they do.
Time and time again Paki have delivered more bang for the buck, they will improve and we have to improve more than them if we want to implement final solution.

 

[Lord Voldemort]

All this requires money. Pakistan has very little of it .

You forget what one of their PMs had said, they'll eat grass but acquire nukes. So they'll beg borrow steal but increase defence budget.

Also remember Pakistan is not a real democracy but a pseudo military dictatorship. If Army wants something they get it.

 

[Dharmocrat]

ATTENTION:

We all need to crack the Kirana hill theory as that shows that we were upto something big, + Pakistan had earthquakes in that region ?

Everything pre-ceasefire attack is adding up to something really big we dared. I really hope it's true.

A genuine question.

We attacked a nuke storage site with conventional munitions. Most likely bunker buster or BrahMos and we hit the entrance of the bunker that the Pakis have built into the tunnel.

Meaning post the door breach all that explosive and kinetic energy has been transferred inside.

How tolerant are nukes of external shocks before they go up in sympathetic detonation.?

I see 2 possibilities.

1. There was a sympathetic detonation which kicked off a sizeable chain detonation inside the facility that has been cut into the mountains.

Problems with this argument are,
a. How big of a detonation does it have to be to create that earthquake we saw?
b. How can we confirm this? Or alternatively what will we see on the ground in the near,mid term and Long term future at this site if this has come to pass?

2. Because of the explosive shock and kinetic energy, some or atleast one warhead stored there has leaked radioactive material inside the storage facility and the entire facility is contaminated. The implications are massive as this would take out a large chunk of paki nukes with minimal risk to us .

All that money that pakis have invested into the nukes is gone just like that. It will be quite a large sum as nukes are crazy expensive to build and maintain.

I am not saying this is what happened. This is just my speculation based on available information.

All if you please feel free to poke holes in this theory as the sudden entry of the yanks after some ' intelligence ' is really suspicious.

 

[Sanglamorre]

Anyway, forget it. A genuine thank you to armed forces of India.

You stepped on the Paki's throats. It is our misfortune we don't have the political will to let you finish the job.

To the government of India, all these Hindu deaths you threw under the bus for youe deescalation, the deepest narak waits for your kind. The babus who caused this, I hope you find a fate that's a thousand times more painful than they felt.

 

[Lord Voldemort]

A foreigner has to showcase the Ws for us


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