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to all those who said Su-30 is gonna go outta style, i refer you to the IAF thread, where i told you, that Su-30 will NEVER go out of style- even if its engines and metal frame rusts away, we will make another, even in the stealth jet era.
Why ?
coz Su-30 is not only very nimble for its size AND comes with a huge honking radome, so has scope to house a mother of all radar, its also a literal BOMB TRUCK level heavyweight in lift-capacity. 20 tonnes after fuel IIRC.
So yeah. You wanna sit behind your AD and lob 500-1000km long cruise missiles and take out paki and chinku infrastructure 100s of kms deep inside their territory, even in 2100 AD ?
Enter Su-30.
This is why India isnt interested in a long distance heavy bomber - Su-30 itself is our long distance light heavy bomber.
 
Can somebody more experienced & knowledgeable on air forces operations please tell me, why do we make runways... that can be taken out?
Why not make the whole place a 1km² concrete plaza, from where you can choose any stretch to do the run?

(Confession: the idea comes from GTA airport which are basically like that & players can land and takeoff wherever the fuck they like 😆)
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This is a thoughtful question, and it’s something military planners have definitely considered. Here’s why air forces still build defined runways instead of making an entire 1 km² concrete surface:

1. Cost and Practicality
• Building a runway is already extremely expensive due to the need for special reinforced concrete, proper drainage, and ground stability.
• Extending that level of construction to a 1 km² (1,000,000 m²) concrete plaza would be massively more expensive, resource-intensive, and time-consuming, often unnecessarily so.

2. Maintenance Complexity
• A huge concrete surface would be difficult to inspect, maintain, and repair.
• Runways undergo frequent maintenance (e.g., rubber removal, crack sealing). A 1 km² slab multiplies that burden without offering much more operational advantage.

3. Operational Efficiency
• Aircraft takeoff and landing require very specific surface conditions (direction, slope, friction, etc.).
• Runways are carefully aligned to prevailing winds, and aircraft can’t just take off in any direction.
• A designated runway allows for controlled air operations, better air traffic management, and safer procedures.

4. Redundancy Already Exists
• Many modern military airbases have multiple runways, taxiways that can double as emergency runways, and secondary backup locations (including hidden or camouflaged airstrips).
• Some nations (like Sweden during the Cold War) even built roads as auxiliary airstrips, for use if main bases are bombed.

5. Tactical Camouflage & Dispersal
• A single large slab of concrete is easier to spot from the air and thus a more obvious target.
• Modern air forces use dispersed operations, underground hangars, and decoy installations to reduce vulnerability.
 
Do we have any bomb which can flatten 1 square km from the impact point? I am talking about non nuclear bomb ofcourse. If it exists with India or any other country can it be mated to missiles like Brahmos and air-ground missiles, and glide bombs? I searched the internet. I got this.


Built by Americans weighing 10,000 kgs in 2002. But only 15 has ever been built. During Trump 1st term they used it against ISIS in Afghanistan.


They have the big bomber planes to carry that load easily to drop it. This bomb cannot be carried by any conventional fighter jet. I am wondering anything similar exists which is less heavy to carry on a fighter jet?

We should try to figure out how we can increase the blast yield and blast radius with our conventional missiles. One bomb on Porki Air base entire air base should get flattened on impact.
I believe a thermobaric bomb or a bomb that ignites oxygen around it through aerosol. is the most powerful non nuclear weapon by area to be used in a missile . India doesn't have it in missile form although India has developed a 120mm thermobaric round, based on the high-explosive squash head (HESH) design, for use in its Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT).
 
Very expensive, material intensive, maintenance will be a nightmare, difficultly of air traffic control will increase a lot, aircrafts landing in multiple direction will increase chances of collision or something going wrong.
But it's possible to do it, but better alternatives exist, like dispersed runway strips or highways capable of being used as runways.
Well, your entire airstrip, especially parking and taxiways ( aka at the gates and the lanes where planes are taxi-ing to get in and out' IS an entire GTA-like concrete pad thats 100-200x by 1km long or so.

If you mean 'hey why dont we turn all tarmac on airport to runway quality and long' , its coz $$.
Ever been in a plane ? next time, pay attention to how much smoother a runaway is compared to general tarmac. its not only much more expensive to make, its also much more expensive to maintain once you are putting serious amounts of rubber on it - and believe it or not, you put FAR more rubber on taxi-way than on runaway, because of all those millions of tiny airport vehicles ferrying customs officials, baggage, passengers, cargo etc from plane's ass to the building - planes itself dont have nearly as many wheel as the vehicles coming to service them and this is a problem for runaways fyi. Not taxiways.

But hey,i you want to pay the construction company 5x the $$ for making ur airport and blow up budget by 10 fold ( coz airports are built by govt all the world over and govt is bueocratic sinkhole of $$), be my guest.

Got it thanks.

I was under the impression fighter jets can land on rougher runways of airfields.
Can it really be costlier than an extra fighter jet ($100mil) to do this?

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If the grass in between a saved you have 3 to 4 parallel streches. If the only one get bombed than all of your $2000mil worth squadron is grounded till they fill up the holes (i doubt it'll be done to very high standards in the hurry)!

PS: Our fighter just literally practice to land on highways just in case.
 
That's not a normal behaviour. Their whole army is obsessively dedicated to cutting clips, photoshopping, grabbing clips & all these theatrics. This is an army briefing ffs. At this point they're just begging. Their all braveries are are just lies & manipulation. Their citizens consume these nonsense at a mass scale. They really believe that they've achieve these shits.
Whole nation is deprived. Deprived off identity, self respect, literacy. India doesn't need to do anything. These clowns will expose themselves automatically.

Meanwhile CNN, BBC, NYT, WaPo etc will report this as gospel truth, citing anonymouse sources, some 2rs influencers and gootubers will lap this shit up and make videos about it.
 
I remember years back when they proposed this and wanted to modify a bunch of MKI to carry them , I thought it was a waste of time . I was proven wrong . These were devastating the last few days . The hit into the AWAC hanger jsut before the ceasefire was the incing on the cake .
I know when they were trying to modify MKI to carry Brahmos there were structural issues to carry a 3 ton Brahmos under the belly. Lot of criticism was faced ( waste to carry such a huge missile as Su 30 won’t be able to carry any other pay load) and HAL was laughed off but now this came handy!
The structural a modification needed for Su 30 forces Brahmos aerospace to come up with Brahmos NG with lighter weight for Air launched version.
 
Why all this obsession with POJK? Who the fck wants POJK? Terrorist 4th world shithole filled with readicalized vermin scum

Look at the number of mirpuris and people from muzaffarabad involved in grooming gangs and BBC propaganda.

Unless we administer rat poison in chenab, jhelum and tranny pill their population, we will have another more radicalized west bengal on our hands. Its only good for narrative and military escalation rhetoric. I dont want India to touch them with a 20ft bargepole. Gilgit is OK.

The place is all good and strategic, but is it worth more pedo zombies voting in india?
 
Got it thanks.

I was under the impression fighter jets can land on rougher runways of airfields.
Can it really be costlier than an extra fighter jet ($100mil) to do this?

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If the grass in between a saved you have 3 to 4 parallel streches. If the only one get bombed than all of your $2000mil worth squadron is grounded till they fill up the holes (i doubt it'll be done to very high standards in the hurry)!
my question is why do you care.
Your engineering corps can pretty much patch a hole in the runaway for even an F-22 fancy-bird to take off, in less than 24 hrs after getting there. Its fancy concrete. but still concrete. and on emergency field-usage basis u can get it to set in less than 24 hrs and speed up the process by aiding evaporation.

Runways are far easier to fix than build and maintain that you wont use. remember, this above pic will get your ass fired in the military if the tertiary runaway never sees any take-off/landing outside the two main runaways.

Yes, airfields blown-up means your resident air-base birds are grounded. thats operationa hazard that cannot be mitigated by even unkil himself.
 
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It’s well known fact that their Operation Chaddi Buniyaan was a complete failure. The only minor damage was in Udhampur something this clown Aurangzeb conveniently showcased while vaguely claiming there were similar images from other attacks which unsurprisingly he never provided. :ROFLMAO:
 
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