Operation Sindoor

[spikey360]

Can you elaborate a little more on the beheading part please. I am not in the loop regarding these acts. All i know is that revernge was taken but i don't know the manner in which it was taken.

3 separate brawls, 'outsider' Chinese troops & more: Most detailed account of the brutal June 15 Galwan battle

Plenty has been written so far about the clash between Indian and Chinese troops in Ladakh's Galwan Valley. But India Today brings you the most detailed account of the brutal June 15 Galwan battle.

www.indiatoday.in

This is the sequence of the well known events.
In the melee number 3, which Indian soldiers fought ferociously, they took Chinese by surprise and utter brutality. Many chinese plunged and perished into the river. A few of them were beheaded as our boys carried swords with them. The number of beheadings was in double digits. This was the most gruesome battle in Indian Army recent history, fought with immense passion and brutality.
A detailed Hindustan Times report existed which has now since disappeared from the internet. But this is what transpired.

 

[Varoon4]

^^^
And yet the Chinese first stated that they had no casualties, then admitted to 4 fatalities, that too only by accident. The reality is probably 40-50 deaths on their side.

 

[spikey360]

^^^
And yet the Chinese first stated that they had no casualties, then admitted to 4 fatalities, that too only by accident. The reality is probably 40-50 deaths on their side.

Chinki maal kuch bhi bol deta hai.
Their imagination fails to meet our reality.

 

[Asmodeus]

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[INDIAFIRST]

Just for the record (and I don't for a second support that cartoon who leads INC, he seems to be the 2nd cousin of Burger King) :

1. Bmos Corporation was created in 1995, and Bmos-A conceptualized and sanctioned in the lost 10 years. The same which got Pak to its knees after being air launched. This missile has given wet dreams to a generation.

2. Akash was inducted by the same guy you are cursing - and btw, our Army wanted an import but was made to buy 2 regiments. And Airforce went ahead and bought Spyder but were told to trim exports and buy local so finally came around and are now sitting on 15 squadrons

3. The Harop drones also got ordered around 2009. I was there in Aero India when they were demonstrated.

I can keep going on but you know the drift.

Yeah they were not very strategic about border roads as their Infra focus was nowhere compared to what Gadkari has.
Yeah they did not push tejas to AF.
Yeah they did not take a final decision on Rafale due to costs, so they had their issues.

So dont just peddle lost 10 years from WA Univ. and see how we have reached where we are today.

You can also do an interesting study of how Su30MKi was conceptualized and procured. What did successive Indian governments do to ensure it comes. That should tell you that there are some elements of national security which do not get tinkered with by any politician.

I am NOT cursing...i was unhappy...
Thanks for the factful information...
Many information and right narrative is to be needed to impart.
Thanking again and yes please keep going on...

 

[ThE BrOkEn HeArT]

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[ThE BrOkEn HeArT]

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[Ajatshatru]

There never was any nuclear deterrence with Pakistan

View: https://youtu.be/w2CoawU25CQ?si=QPL7xBdeRHINTaaG

 

[Master of Indus]

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Wife ho toh aisi. Bada lucky hoga jisse such a brilliant girl will marry.

Beauty with Brains!

 

[sameer]

I see China's finger prints over all of this.

Chinese private company was involved in providing targeting data.

A closer look at the Chinese space company accused of helping the Houthis

The ostensibly private Chang Guang Satellite Technology emerged from and benefited from state funding.

www.defenseone.com

 

[delta]

The IAF Su-30MKI, Mirage 2000 and Rafale crews’ heavy blows against PAF Air Bases that destroyed several Pakistani aircraft

The IAF Su-30MKI, Mirage 2000 and Rafale crews’ heavy blows against PAF Air Bases that destroyed several Pakistani aircraft

theaviationgeekclub.com

Tom Cooper mentioned one interesting insight in this article and other interviews as well - the IAF likely faced AC losses at the start of Op Sindoor due to no SEAD/DEAD being done. that was either a blunder by the planners, or a deliberate risk taken in order to show the world that we are only striking terror targets.

Won't comment if it was the right or wrong move, but GOI having made it clear that any terror attack going fwd will be treated as an act of war makes the RoE so much easier for the IAF to perform SEAD/DEAD first and then pummel Pak targets. that must've been music to the ears of IAF top brass!

 

[Ajatshatru]

Operation Chaddi-Al-Banyan was a failure

 

[Master of Indus]

Operation Chaddi-Al-Banyan was a failure
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Chalo good sense has started prevailing in paxtanis. Sooner they realise how they have been lied to since birth, better chances they have to survive in the west in the long run leaving ghetto islamic mindset.

 

[Azaad]

unless some contradictory evidence comes about, my theory goes like this:

for this we have to understand the basic difference between policy agenda of GoI and GoP, GoI treats kashmir as a bilateral issue since simla agreement, GoP wants to internationalise Kashmir issue. GoP wanted to make the best of the situation to bring Kashmir back into international negotiations table, one can just watch all the interviews given by paki gormint spokespersons on gora TV channels these past two weeks.

with this as background, paki army having been a major non-treaty ally of muricans for so many decades know fully well what buttons to push, to get attention from pentagon and WH. they simulated all the telltale signs(explosion at their nuke sites, civilian evacuation, news about boron, and this plane circling ) of a nooclear escalation to get WH's attention knowing fully well pentagon will be monitoring them, and will report to their NSA and secretary of state which is the same person right now i.e rubio. they got what they wanted when orange man added negotiations at neutral venue in his announcement post.

Modi mentioning "nuclear blackmail" in his speech, i think is referencing the above sequence of events.

For your theory to hold good would mean we didn't strike the Kinara Hill storage depot which goes against the material evidence making the rounds of the net.

What would've happened instead is something straight out of the Paxtani playbook since 1998 when they officially became a Nuclear power !

Everytime the situation gets too hot for them or doesn't go as planned be it Kargil or during Operation Parakram or later in 26/11 and on & on is to be seen preparing TELs , Fighter Aircrafts for launch , unusual activities at their known NW production & storage sites etc .

Usually we played out our scripted role & in a way gave in to their N blackmail . This time we didn't stick to the script , something which was out of syllabus for them. Not only are they rattled they must know not what to do ?

Deterrence works only if the enemy is deterred not if he's determined not to be deterred. Threat of usage of Nuclear weapons was their Brahma Astra. It's something rarely used . It certainly isn't something you cry wolf about every now & then . Their bluff was called & how .

The only option for them now is to actually use these nuclear weapons if they can which is if India permits it & if they can summon such will power.

I argue no on both counts. No businessman or enterprise enjoying a flourishing business would do something to jeopardize it . Neither will Fauji Foundation.

 

[vampyrbladez]

PAF confirmed losses :

2 x Mirage III/V

• 24-045
• 24-051 (?)

Nose Wheel Electric Motor


Snecma Atar 9 Engine Front Face


Mid and Rear Section


1 x JF-17


Nose Radome


Klimov RD 93MA Engine Face


Fixed Refueling Probe


Engine Inlet


Unofficial PAF Asset Loss


View: https://x.com/arvind_barmer/status/1921589527212085509

 

[Headhunter]

View: https://x.com/GeorgeGeevar/status/1922287015862616484

 

[Kapil]

The IAF Su-30MKI, Mirage 2000 and Rafale crews’ heavy blows against PAF Air Bases that destroyed several Pakistani aircraft

The IAF Su-30MKI, Mirage 2000 and Rafale crews’ heavy blows against PAF Air Bases that destroyed several Pakistani aircraft

theaviationgeekclub.com

Tom Cooper mentioned one interesting insight in this article and other interviews as well - the IAF likely faced AC losses at the start of Op Sindoor due to no SEAD/DEAD being done. that was either a blunder by the planners, or a deliberate risk taken in order to show the world that we are only striking terror targets.

Won't comment if it was the right or wrong move, but GOI having made it clear that any terror attack going fwd will be treated as an act of war makes the RoE so much easier for the IAF to perform SEAD/DEAD first and then pummel Pak targets. that must've been music to the ears of IAF top brass!

Thats exactly my analysis said.
We possibly(speculative till IAF confirms), lost platforms when the first commando(Rafale or M2K) went in.
I am not sure if there was signit and comment happening, but looks like it did, by the looks of the # of Radars we have taken out.

Btw - was NGArm used as well?

 

[silentassassin265]

Thats exactly my analysis said.
We possibly(speculative till IAF confirms), lost platforms when the first commando(Rafale or M2K) went in.
I am not sure if there was signit and comment happening, but looks like it did, by the looks of the # of Radars we have taken out.

Btw - was NGArm used as well?

M2K was probably crashed rather than shot down, nothing surprising there .
IAF not denying aircraft loss so rafale might have been shot, concerning thing here is why it wasn't able to use countermeasures.
Su30mki in 2019 had blocked several a2a missiles

 

[Brood Father]

M2K was probably crashed rather than shot down, nothing surprising there .
IAF not denying aircraft loss so rafale might have been shot, concerning thing here is why it wasn't able to use countermeasures.
Su30mki in 2019 had blocked several a2a missiles

This is what my friend confirmed ..he said M2K was shot down , Rafale was hit but landed to base safely and the frame is in perfect condition so no write off

Again , take this with bucket load of salt

 

[silentassassin265]

This is what my friend confirmed ..he said M2K was shot down , Rafale was hit but landed to base safely and the frame is in perfect condition so no write off

Again , take this with bucket load of salt

IAF was quick to deny s400 rumor
He didn't deny aircraft loss
If rafale landed safely it might have damaged badly so that he couldn't deny.

When we purchase small quantity of fighters from West it's difficult to deny it.