Operation Sindoor

[deathmonger]

Does that matter?
North Korea hdi is much lower but that doesn't mean they will have weak army, first priority of both the countries is millitary and nothing else.
Porkistan is just north korea with extra step.

Not saying they will not be a nuisance but they will lose out on the rest (economy, sports etc) and the nuisance value will become less because SK is not what India will be in 2050.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Not saying they will not be a nuisance but they will lose out on the rest (economy, sports etc) and the nuisance value will become less because SK is not what India will be in 2050.

without murrica to watch over its shoulder, NoKo today would crush SoKo in 3 months flat and occupy busan itself. Because north korea makes its own weapons and in industrial era, no imported military army has ever won a war against an indegenously armed military, even if the latter is dehati level in tech.

 

[Blademaster]

without murrica to watch over its shoulder, NoKo today would crush SoKo in 3 months flat and occupy busan itself. Because north korea makes its own weapons and in industrial era, no imported military army has ever won a war against an indegenously armed military, even if the latter is dehati level in tech.

Nope. Believe it or not, South Korea actually has the edge in artillery, notwithstanding NoKo's numerical superiority because South Korea has precision weapons galore and they are such force multipliers as you have seen in this conflict that 100 smart artillery is worth 10 times the 1000 dumb artillery that NoKo has.

 

[deathmonger]

without murrica to watch over its shoulder, NoKo today would crush SoKo in 3 months flat and occupy busan itself. Because north korea makes its own weapons and in industrial era, no imported military army has ever won a war against an indegenously armed military, even if the latter is dehati level in tech.

Yeah in our case we are NOT only the richer neighbour but also militarily more powerful.

Remember we have a huge population advantage vs Pak. So HDI differences act as a multiplier.

By 2050 Ind-Pak differntial will be likely 25x.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Nope. Believe it or not, South Korea actually has the edge in artillery, notwithstanding NoKo's numerical superiority because South Korea has precision weapons galore and they are such force multipliers as you have seen in this conflict that 100 smart artillery is worth 10 times the 1000 dumb artillery that NoKo has.

as i said, soko has over 60% of its military imported. And an import military has never won vs an indegenous military in the 200 years of industrial revolution period. ever. so as mathematician and a betting man, i dont bet on those odds. SoKo has zero chance vs NoKo without amrikka.

100 smart arty costs 1000 times more than 100 dumb arty. In war, its all about production. Not about surgical tools. Quantity, is a quality of its own and no one proved it better than Russians with their inferior shit maal vs the best maal of germans in ww2.

 

[Blademaster]

as i said, soko has over 60% of its military imported. And an import military has never won vs an indegenous military in the 200 years of industrial revolution period. ever. so as mathematician and a betting man, i dont bet on those odds. SoKo has zero chance vs NoKo without amrikka.

100 smart arty costs 1000 times more than 100 dumb arty. In war, its all about production. Not about surgical tools. Quantity, is a quality of its own and no one proved it better than Russians with their inferior shit maal vs the best maal of germans in ww2.

SoKo manufacture its own shells, bullets, and arty guns and electronics. It also manufactures its own landmines and its own tanks. Now it is producing its own 4.5 gen fighter. It produces its own ships and submarines. No it is not over 60% imported. It is around 33%-40% imported, roughly along the same line as the Indian military is.

 

[silentassassin265]

Nope. Believe it or not, South Korea actually has the edge in artillery, notwithstanding NoKo's numerical superiority because South Korea has precision weapons galore and they are such force multipliers as you have seen in this conflict that 100 smart artillery is worth 10 times the 1000 dumb artillery that NoKo has.

Noko is bordered by both shitna and Russia so both will be supplying them.
Also even the old artillery of North Korea has extended range to hit Seoul, they won't be able to block artillery shells.

 

[silentassassin265]

Can't the missile be guided in by the AWAC from a long way ?

Porks down have that level of communication system. Their f16 can't communicate with other jets too.

 

[Blademaster]

Noko is bordered by both shitna and Russia so both will be supplying them.
Also even the old artillery of North Korea has extended range to hit Seoul, they won't be able to block artillery shells.

And SoKo has figured out a way to neutralize those guns with precision weapons. They practice taking out those guns before they can fire thousands of shells.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

SoKo manufacture its own shells, bullets, and arty guns and electronics. It also manufactures its own landmines and its own tanks. Now it is producing its own 4.5 gen fighter. It produces its own ships and submarines. No it is not over 60% imported. It is around 33%-40% imported, roughly along the same line as the Indian military is.

yep. and NoKo is 100% domestic made. If SoKo beats NoKo in a war without outside help militarily, it will be a first in human history - that an importer army has defeated an indegenous army in the industrial era.

ofcourse, this doesnt apply to India-pakistan because between the two its a race to who is a bigger importer. But its the same reason i will say India, if it fights China, will lose or be forced to make history.

And as a betting man, i do not like the odds of any war that involves 'do something no one has ever done before' to win.
This is why i push for substandard dehati desi maal over phoren maal.
Coz dehati desi maal has won over phoren import maal in wars in last 200 years - the reverse has never happened.

Also you do not understand the war scenario of NoKo vs SoKo.
The heart of SoKo economy is Seoul. As well as its population base. Thats about 40% of SoKo GDP and 30% of its population....and Seoul-Incheon megacity is like 25km from the border.

NoKo doesnt need sophisticated shit. They only need numbers. Because their doctrine is 'can you stop approx 5,000 tanks, 10,000 APCs and 5,000 artillery (of all kinds) marching 25kms ? coz if you cant, you lose as i blow up Seoul-Inchon'.

For THIS mission, what a poor nation needs, is quantity. Not quality. And that is exactly what NoKo has - shit tons of quantity of indegenously produced ww2 era crap.
That will suffer 50:1 losses, but its okay, coz they have 100:1 numerical odds and they dont need to manage supply lines of 100s of kms with ww2 vehicular logistics, they need to go the distance between Raj path in New Delhi and greater Noida.

its South korea who has to either match quantity or come up with fool-proof quality and there is no fool-proof quality of anything on planet earth - short of nuking your own territory - that will stop 20,000 vehicles of various khatara design to go 25kms.

 

[Blademaster]

yep. and NoKo is 100% domestic made. If SoKo beats NoKo in a war without outside help militarily, it will be a first in human history - that an importer army has defeated an indegenous army in the industrial era.

ofcourse, this doesnt apply to India-pakistan because between the two its a race to who is a bigger importer. But its the same reason i will say India, if it fights China, will lose or be forced to make history.

And as a betting man, i do not like the odds of any war that involves 'do something no one has ever done before' to win.
This is why i push for substandard dehati desi maal over phoren maal.
Coz dehati desi maal has won over phoren import maal in wars in last 200 years - the reverse has never happened.

Also you do not understand the war scenario of NoKo vs SoKo.
The heart of SoKo economy is Seoul. As well as its population base. Thats about 40% of SoKo GDP and 30% of its population....and Seoul-Incheon megacity is like 25km from the border.

NoKo doesnt need sophisticated shit. They only need numbers. Because their doctrine is 'can you stop approx 5,000 tanks, 10,000 APCs and 5,000 artillery (of all kinds) marching 25kms ? coz if you cant, you lose as i blow up Seoul-Inchon'.

For THIS mission, what a poor nation needs, is quantity. Not quality. And that is exactly what NoKo has - shit tons of quantity of indegenously produced ww2 era crap.
That will suffer 50:1 losses, but its okay, coz they have 100:1 numerical odds and they dont need to manage supply lines of 100s of kms with ww2 vehicular logistics, they need to go the distance between Raj path in New Delhi and greater Noida.

its South korea who has to either match quantity or come up with fool-proof quality and there is no fool-proof quality of anything on planet earth - short of nuking your own territory - that will stop 20,000 vehicles of various khatara design to go 25kms.

Terrain is a great equalizer. Look at the map of the mountainous DMZ. Numbers ain't gonna matter that much when the terrain works as funneling points.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Terrain is a great equalizer. Look at the map of the mountainous DMZ. Numbers ain't gonna matter that much when the terrain works as funneling points.

numbers still matter when you funnel.
terrain works both ways -just like it makes NoKo movements difficult, it ALSO makes SoKo precision-bombing nearly impossible.
because you CANNOT precision-bomb artillery positioned well in ridges and hill-lines- because IF its posistioned well, it means you have error range of literally 1-2 metres and if you miss, you either hit the hill or the hill behind.
Trust me on one thing because all SoKo people do military service and have some face2face interactions with NoKo military and there's plenty of SoKo immigrants to Canada- NONE of them underestimate NoKo' ability to pulverize SoKo without Nook threat from Uncle sam.

PS: the DMZ is the easiest terran- nearly flat...around Incheon-Seoul. the paju-kaesong axis is flat.

 

[maximus777]

Taking out paki assets means only the loss of those assets while other surviving assets can still take off. Taking out the runway means that the entire base is rendered useless, a total softkill. Runway hits are game changers because they deny the planes the ability to take off. They essentially become paperweights or hangar queens.

But the advantage is truly driven home if there is a follow up strike that kills everything on the ground - planes, refuelers, AWACS, AAD, fuel and ammo! That would be the full monty!!

I think we were surprised at the spectacular success we had achieved and left it half assd without going for coup de grace - typical Prithviraj syndrome!

 

[deathmonger]

What happened to famed paxtani " mehsoos -e-Baniyan" mission?

Operation Baniyan Chaddi failed so no one is kanging on that.

All the kanging is of the downed jets from day 1.

 

[Cyclops]

Still no proof of "muh radiation leak" so hopefully, everyone can finally stop rumor-mongering.


View: https://youtu.be/F2LlO0cqKu0?si=EXzPHfjReE4d6CrH

What all India can do to increase its SEAD capability, what other platforms various other nations have for this?

Get these monsters inducted in large numbers ASAP.

 

[pkmkb]

View: https://x.com/EndGameWW3/status/1922469612672655735


Why does Iran think Arab countries will suddenly feel the need to build an Islamic bomb together? Has something happened to the existing one? Is iran hinting the current custodian is too unreliable?

 

[Tumba]

Another benefit of Operation Sindoor

The efforts by congoon ecosystem for aman ka tamasha is trashed

Now Govt should look into inbred marriages between pakistanis in India and pakistan very concerning

 

[Blood+]

yep. and NoKo is 100% domestic made.

Most of it is Ork-tier tech though, often held together with spit and duct tape and run on the power of hopes, prayers, and delusions!!

If SoKo beats NoKo in a war without outside help militarily, it will be a first in human history - that an importer army has defeated an indegenous army in the industrial era.

What??!! Good Korea produces most of its equipment in-house - from rifles to tanks and artillery, and compared to that of their northern cousins, their stuff might as well be from effing Andromeda (I know, I know, they are dependent on outsiders for some critical subsystems)!!

I mean, seriously, have you seen the North Korean tanks??!! It's nothing short of a miracle that they can move around those hunks of rustbuckets on their own power!!

ofcourse, this doesnt apply to India-pakistan because between the two its a race to who is a bigger importer.

Yeah, but that's changing, though.

But its the same reason i will say India, if it fights China, will lose or be forced to make history.

Unlikely. Come out worse off - yes, absolutely, but outright lose?? I don't think so.

This is why i push for substandard dehati desi maal over phoren maal.
Coz dehati desi maal has won over phoren import maal in wars in last 200 years - the reverse has never happened.

No disagreement there.

Also you do not understand the war scenario of NoKo vs SoKo.
The heart of SoKo economy is Seoul. As well as its population base. Thats about 40% of SoKo GDP and 30% of its population....and Seoul-Incheon megacity is like 25km from the border.

True.

NoKo doesnt need sophisticated shit. They only need numbers. Because their doctrine is 'can you stop approx 5,000 tanks, 10,000 APCs and 5,000 artillery (of all kinds) marching 25kms ? coz if you cant, you lose as i blow up Seoul-Inchon'.

NoKo tanks are less than jokes and likely wouldn't count for anything (plus the terrain across the DMZ makes the employment of tanks in an offensive role extremely difficult)!! The biggest threat to South Koreans would come from their artillery and tactical ballistic missiles.

But at any rate, South Koreans have far better artillery pieces and very likely, in greater numbers than the NoKos too (South Korean Army fields one of the largest arsenals of 155mm howitzers in the world)!!

For THIS mission, what a poor nation needs, is quantity. Not quality. And that is exactly what NoKo has - shit tons of quantity of indegenously produced ww2 era crap.

Nah, that could take only so far. And South Koreans have a shit ton of quantity as well and much much better quality too.

That will suffer 50:1 losses, but its okay, coz they have 100:1 numerical odds and they dont need to manage supply lines of 100s of kms with ww2 vehicular logistics, they need to go the distance between Raj path in New Delhi and greater Noida.

Only that the NoKos do not enjoy nearly as great a numerical advantage, heck, if anything, at present, they are at a significant numerical disadvantage in terms of some very critical equipment and even the basic ones!!

 

[fire starter]

 

[Oannattar]

They are so desperate that they are running propaganda AD about their fake winning