Pahalgam Islamic Terror Attack

[Waanar]

And why wouldn't we?

Low passes by fighter jets are reserved for air shows, actual evasion and combat missions due to its high risk to reward ration. A single wire hanging off of a pole or a polythene trashbag flying into the intake in somewhat windy conditions could mean a total write off for the airframe.
I can't see any reason for it other than what the members here already said regarding it, i.e a morale booster/psy ops.

I would much rather our forces don't engage in it (they don't seem to do that anyways).

Who knows, maybe our guys are locking their jets from across the border just to fuck with them. That'd be some uncharacteristic brinkmanship.

 

[abingdonboy]

View: https://x.com/ksingh_1469/status/1916490470215102561?s=46

 

[Patriots]

Low passes by fighter jets are reserved for air shows, actual evasion and combat missions due to its high risk to reward ration. A single wire hanging off of a pole or a polythene trashbag flying into the intake in somewhat windy conditions could mean a total write off for the airframe.
I can't see any reason for it other than what the members here already said regarding it, i.e a morale booster/psy ops.

I would much rather our forces don't engage in it (they don't seem to do that anyways).

Who knows, maybe our guys are locking their jets from across the border just to fuck with them. That'd be some uncharacteristic brinkmanship.

Atleast our jets should fly near the pak boarder,fully armed , will give pak sleepless nights...

Let them do operation swift retort again ...rafale with meteor , s400 ..
Su 30 with Astra mk2 , Astra mk1
Tejas with derby , astra waiting
Tejas

 

[officewarrior]

They are preparing for a full blown war which they cant even fight for a week we should be confident in killing these motherfukers out.
there is a air of silence in our bases something is cooking let them prepare we will strike when we will want.

 

[concard]

All the mobilization Porkis are making is going to cost them a lot. I say we take our own sweet time to decide when we have to bomb the shit out of them. Few people here might disagree with me, but I say even if the attack happens after 100 days I am okay with it. We need to rise the cost of conflict for them. For 100 days they cannot be on high alert and have their air force and navy on combat patrol. That will bleed them like anything. Even the Chinese couldn't hold on in Himalayas even if that was due to just weather. Still a country barely hanging onto a thread cannot keep up high alert levels for 100 days.

If the attack happens let's say at the end of August, we will also have a advantage with respect to our Eastern border. Winter will start to set in and Chinese would not dare to do anything stupid either given the harsh weather conditions. 1971 war was fought in December which is peak winter in Himalayas. Until then I am okay with our forces fine tuning their strategy and getting their shit in order. It will give our side enough to watch their moments and strike when they least expect it.

This is just my opinion. I would love to see anyone can see the flaw in my argument and rebut it.

 

[officewarrior]

All the mobilization Porkis are making is going to cost them a lot. I say we take our own sweet time to decide when we have to bomb the shit out of them. Few people here might disagree with me, but I say even if the attack happens after 100 days I am okay with it. We need to rise the cost of conflict for them. For 100 days they cannot be on high alert and have their air force and navy on combat patrol. That will bleed them like anything. Even the Chinese couldn't hold on in Himalayas even if that was due to just weather. Still a country barely hanging onto a thread cannot keep up high alert levels for 100 days.

If the attack happens let's say at the end of August, we will also have a advantage with respect to our Eastern border. Winter will start to set in and Chinese would not dare to do anything stupid either given the harsh weather conditions. 1971 war was fought in December which is peak winter in Himalayas. Until then I am okay with our forces fine tuning their strategy and getting their shit in order. It will give our side enough to watch their moments and strike when they least expect it.

This is just my opinion. I would love to see anyone can see the flaw in my argument and rebut it.

Narrative will be lost and people will be too busy in their lives india is not israel our govt only does something when push comes to shove.

 

[TringTringMonster]

Also it would help if the more experienced members write up a post about the guidelines on how to scour the social media for posts about Pak military mobilization. Aka keywords in Urdu or other languages or platforms so that the entire forum can help in keeping track.

 

[concard]

Narrative will be lost and people will be too busy in their lives india is not israel our govt only does something when push comes to shove.

No other solid reason? Let's say we can completely wipe their military assets out after 100 days when we attack. Would we take that option or do we take the option of launching the attack earlier just because narrative will be lost and people would have moved on? The end goal is to wipe out or weaken our enemy massively. The goal here is not political theater.

 

[indus_markII]

Because some among us insist on moon trials and gold-plated imports, also, "how dare conscientious and intrepid entrepreneurs butt in? Bloody civilians".

Unfortunately, abhi toh jang hi inhe seedha karegi.


That is, we have waaaaay better systems than the chicoms can provide the pakjabis, and they are kept on the sidelines, while "experts" dilly dallied.
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But we do have the K9 Vajra tracked howitzer. It's also 155mm 52 cal gun.
Ain't so

 

[TAVOUR 21]

Also it would help if the more experienced members write up a post about the guidelines on how to scour the social media for posts about Pak military mobilization. Aka keywords in Urdu or other languages or platforms so that the entire forum can help in keeping track.

most of these videos are available on facebook

 

[sameer]

View: https://x.com/ksingh_1469/status/1916490470215102561?s=46

And you know the sad part...

It's not like we don't have the money. This year the IA/MOD returned 12500 crores from their budget because they (apparently) couldn't spend it.

Defence Ministry to return Rs 12,500 crore unused funds amid procurement delays

The Centre allocated Rs 6,81,210 crore for the defence budget for 2025-26, up from last year's outlay of Rs 6,21,940 crore. However, the Defence Ministry is expected to return Rs 12,500 crore from its 2024-25 budget due to delays in the procurement process.

www.indiatoday.in

I mean, Armasen Tactical Plate carriers cost ~4,000 INR. If we bought 5,00,000 pieces, then it costs 2,000 crores.

With plenty left for NVG's, Integrated knee pad trousers, ballistic helmets, camo paint, sights for battle rifles etc etc etc..

Just for half of that money returned, we could have modernized our SF and frontline troops and the remaining maybe use it on procuring artillery and heavy weaponry. These are all short term procurement stuff and should've been done easily.

 

[Vinod Patter]

But we do have the K9 Vajra tracked howitzer. It's also 155mm 52 cal gun.
Ain't so

Pakistan has 600 self propelled howitzers and Indian Army posses only 100 k-9.

 

[Numero]

No other solid reason? Let's say we can completely wipe their military assets out after 100 days when we attack. Would we take that option or do we take the option of launching the attack earlier just because narrative will be lost and people would have moved on? The end goal is to wipe out or weaken our enemy massively. The goal here is not political theater.

You think the war won't end up without using nuclear weapons? Pakistan couldn't defeat India conventionally but certainly they've enough nuclear arsenal. India isn't stupid enough to engage in wars that could end up with nuclear clouds. India will use other methods than directly engage in war. The war hysteria will die out within a few days.

 

[realsumo]

No other solid reason? Let's say we can completely wipe their military assets out after 100 days when we attack. Would we take that option or do we take the option of launching the attack earlier just because narrative will be lost and people would have moved on? The end goal is to wipe out or weaken our enemy massively. The goal here is not political theater.

The end goal is exactly political theatrics, and winning the elections. Let's be honest for a second. What is the government's role? To weaken our enemies and increase the stakes in our favour? The main goal of the government is to win next elections.

Modi won't take a political L. He would have to respond somehow, otherwise the opposition would use that against him. Now, we just have to see whether Modi responds just for theatrics or actually weakening the enemy.

 

[concard]

You think the war won't end up without using nuclear weapons? Pakistan couldn't defeat India conventionally but certainly they've enough nuclear arsenal. India isn't stupid enough to engage in wars that could end up with nuclear clouds. India will use other methods than directly engage in war

I don't think Porki scum will have the balls to push nuclear button. They know what happens if they do. I highly doubt they possess tactical nukes which needs to be extremely small to fit on a small rocket. US tried something like a artillery nuke test during cold war and they dropped that idea given the risks involved in handling such a small nuclear device. We need to call their nuclear bluff and do what need to be done.

 

[srev2004]

RE: we had 12,500 crore to spend.

I know some creative ways to spend it!

 

[Adibot]

RE: we had 12,500 crore to spend.

I know some creative ways to spend it!

Me too

 

[johny_baba]

in any case, our NRIs should be better prepared in cuntries like the UK, Canada and New Zealand which has some significant population of indians and porkie subhumans

i'd say UAE and middle eastern ones too but those sheikhs would not want war things to be spilled in their lands, then again who knows...

already porkies in the UK are taking it to street protests

 

[concard]

The end goal is exactly political theatrics, and winning the elections. Let's be honest for a second. What is the government's role? To weaken our enemies and increase the stakes in our favour? The main goal of the government is to win next elections.

Modi won't take a political L. He would have to respond somehow, otherwise the opposition would use that against him. Now, we would have to see whether Modi responds just for theatrics or actually weakening the enemy.

For Modi elections are 4 years away. I ask again, if our end goal is destroying their military assets can be achieved after 100 days, why not take that opportunity? It makes no sense to launch a mini war when they are already on high alert. Tire them out. Let them keep expecting an attack and lose interest and withdraw their frontline assets. Then you swoop in and give them a knock out blow. This will take a long time for them to retaliate. And with the onset of winter Chinese wouldn't think about any misadventure either.

 

[maximus777]

Vikrant CBG back in port. Op Parakram 2.0 winding down already?!? Supreme leaderji happy with some border arty duels and playing water-water. How is this any riposte??