Pahalgam Islamic Terror Attack

[maximus777]

If there is an iota of shame left, we should sign the MRFA for 114 Rafales or Su57s or F35s - whichever can be expedited. Minor qualitative differences don't matter given HAL will take another 40 years on 5th gen. 5th gen is preferred but 4.5 v/s 5th is just semantics considering our current situation. Let's get the numbers up first.

Mass order the self-propelled arty and MBRLs - ATAGS, VAJRA, Pinaka and whatever others.

Mass order stealth cruisers and destroyers carrying cruise missiles and ASMs.

Stop all SOPs and freebie schemes to fund it. Turn this around in the next decade or just STFU and watch this country dither away which is already moth eaten by demographic changes.

Then I wake up and smell my coffee

 

[Patriots]

View: https://x.com/NewsArenaIndia/status/1916503327233249769

 

[maximus777]

View: https://x.com/NewsArenaIndia/status/1916505138916663708

What is he discussing that hasn't been done already? Ideally such scenarios should have been wargamed numerous times by now to the extent that it is muscle memory at this point. And why cant they all get on the same call or meeting and agree to something??!? Why this piecemeal babu-giri???

 

[The Shrike]

That chinese made SH-15/PCL-181 truck mounted howitzer(videos above) is the only equipment in Paki army that we should be concerned about... & they have it in numbers... approx 300. We have 0 in this category.

Shoot & scoot capability becomes more important in short wars which is about to unfold.

We allowed the deficiencies and capability gaps to increase... and hence a rabid jihadi state 1/12th in economy kills and maims our populace and is challenging us for war.

They have plenty of other equipment that will be a real pain the behind for our armed forces. For example the A-100 300mm class MRBL - which safe to say comes with guided rockets.
China's discount S-300 SAM, air launched cruise/ballistic missiles, glide PGMs will also be a major concern.

 

[TringTringMonster]

View: https://x.com/NewsArenaIndia/status/1916505138916663708

Next 48 hours starting from 28th April midnight is gonna be crucial. Any action that's gonna come is gonna come at night. Probably 3 am. Or more.

 

[MasterChief]

Karakoram Highway is part of cpec.China might get involved.

Involved or not.. Karakoram highway is a goner.. No ammo will flow to Pakistan via. land or Water..

 

[mcpo117]

Next 48 hours starting from 28th April midnight is gonna be crucial. Any action that's gonna come is gonna come at night. Probably 3 am. Or more.

If any action you mean?

 

[Adibot]

They have plenty of other equipment that will be a real pain the behind for our armed forces. For example the A-100 300mm class MRBL - which safe to say comes with guided rockets.
China's discount S-300 SAM, air launched cruise/ballistic missiles, glide PGMs will also be a major concern.

And do we have any deterrent for these?

 

[mcpo117]

And do we have any deterrent for these?

Hence our best and decisive bet would be naval front which they have little deterrence against.

 

[haldilal]

View: https://x.com/indian_armada/status/1916394221109473543

 

[maximus777]

And do we have any deterrent for these?

You are asking all the right questions for which you know the answers already.

Just to simplify, in our current state we will not have the kind of superiority Israel had over Gaanja. Any victories will come at a steep cost riding on the brass balls and testosterone of the Indian armed forces, specifically the army.

 

[Adibot]

What is he discussing that hasn't been done already? Ideally such scenarios should have been wargamed numerous times by now to the extent that it is muscle memory at this point. And why cant they all get on the same call or meeting and agree to something??!? Why this piecemeal babu-giri???

Something is going on for sure

 

[maximus777]

Hence our best and decisive bet would be naval front which they have little deterrence against.

I think Ukraine has proved that you can sink heavy cruisers and flasghips using ASMs. If the Chinese ASMs are even half decent, they would be a deterrent to Vikrant CBG. Our image conscious govt wouldn't risk a Moskva moment.

 

[ezsasa]

A number of large scale orders were placed in March, 2025. Article from February, 2025.

@ezsasa , any idea how much was returned, eventually?

feb and march orders given are about 80,000 crore which includes ATAGS and LCH, if we assume 10% on purchase order then 8000 crore is less right there.
and there were quite a few steel cutting, launches, and deliveries IN has taken of small and medium boats, payments would have gone for them too.

either books are balanced or maybe even overshot the budget.

anyways cash is not an issue, new financial year.

 

[Dhartiputra]

You are not Dharti Putra.

If we strike Pakistan and they escalate in response, we must have enough strength to contain it without suffering significant damage — which I don’t currently see. Moreover, Pakistan has declared that if we strike their citizens (we all know who they mean), they will retaliate by targeting Indian citizens.

 

[maximus777]

If we strike Pakistan and they escalate in response, we must have enough strength to contain it without suffering significant damage — which I don’t currently see. Moreover, Pakistan has declared that if we strike their citizens (we all know who they mean), they will retaliate by targeting Indian citizens.

Let it be a no holds barred fight. They are already killing our citizens and attacking cities. So what's new??

 

[Cheepek]

View: https://x.com/TheLegateIN/status/1916511419572404657?t=NDwwK-P2HRlzpfj-eM_ibg&s=19

 

[ArjunMK1A]

If some have not gone out of the country yet . Can Armenia bros let us keep some.

My dear friend, Bharat forge can increase the production rate if required for our request. Yes, we can negotiate with Armenia that we will use the current stock. We can even produce the Garuda v2 in mass numbers. TASL can also step up for MGS.

Bharat Forge, TASL , L&T, AWEIL can manufacture Artillery at scale.

Question is how fast can Army incorporate them into battlefield since they are new weapons and closet relative is K9 which is similar in role (Mobile Artillery).

Army doesn't know what to do with them. They have no precedence for these mobile wheeled light howitzers in service. They are still brainstorming SOPs regarding these new trucks.

Ukr-Rus started 3 years back. Enough time to have knowledge on this.

 

[Cheepek]

If we strike Pakistan and they escalate in response, we must have enough strength to contain it without suffering significant damage — which I don’t currently see. Moreover, Pakistan has declared that if we strike their citizens (we all know who they mean), they will retaliate by targeting Indian citizens.

Once upon a time they also claimed that scrapping IWT will be an act of war, now they changed it to diverting water will be act of war, when we start diverting they will state diverting water meant for Pakistan will be act of war

 

[ThE BrOkEn HeArT]

You are not Dharti Putra.

After reading his post I have got into depression and felt We have already Lost the war.