Pahalgam Islamic Terror Attack

Here is the full list of Pahalgam terrorist attack victims:
1. Sushil Nathyal, Indore
2. Syed Adil Hussain Shah, Pahalgam
3. Hemant Suhas Joshi, Mumbai
4. Vinay Narwal, Haryana
5. Atul Srikant Moni, Maharashtra
6. Neeraj Udhawani, Uttarakhand
7. Bitan Adhikari, Kolkata
8. Sudeep Neupane, Nepal
9. Shubham Dwivedi, Kanpur
10. Prasanta Kumar Satpathy, Balasore, Odisha.
11. Manish Ranjan, Bengal
12. N Ramachandra, Kerala
13 Sanjay Lakshman Lali, Thane
14. Dinesh Agarwal, Chandigarh
15. Samir Guha from Kolkata
16. Dileep Dasali, Mumbai
17. J Sachandra Moli, Visakhapatnam
18. Madhusudan Somisetty, Bengaluru
19. Santosh Jaghda, Pune
20. Manju Nath Rao, Karnataka
21. Kastuba Ganvotay, Pune
22. Bharat Bhushan, Bengaluru
23. Sumit Parmar, Gujarat
24. Yatesh Parmar, Gujarat
25. Tage Hailyang, Arunachal Pradesh
26. Shaileshbhai H Himmatbhai Kalathia, Gujarat
 
It really does look like the government has played the cards (of the caste census) and we're not getting the "revenge"

The Indian system is as such. The government doesn't matter.
 
maximus777 said:
This means the sympathy wave is done. Its business as usual with state dept preaching the virtues of restraint. If we dont act in 72 hours as any self respecting nation would have done, even after experiences in 2019 Pulwama and 2020 Galwan, we need rightly need such lectures!
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Absolutely.
haldilal said:
Terrorists are the innocent citizens of Pakistan.
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Here's what I think is going to happen:

There will be no obvious action until they've either caught or eliminated the 4 pigs that are still out in the wild. It'll be important for them to produce their dead bodies in front of the media for the families of the victims to get their closure. They'd also want to conclude the investigation and hopefully produce irrefutable techint on how these guys are linked to Porki army.

Sometime in the coming month, we will use standoff weapons (air launched ballistic missiles, SCALP, air launched brahmos) to hit terror camps, ISI buildings (which house high value/senior army personnel who are involved with their kashmir project), any high value targets where we've got quality intel, and possibly (but unlikely) SAM and radar sites. 155mm shelling or missile strikes deep into Paki territory or strikes from naval platforms will not be on the table for strike #1. Basically, a Balakote++.

What happens next is fluid, depending on Pakistan's counter move. If its a swift retort ++ then I'm guessing the improved BVR game of our fleet, S400 area denial capabilities + the threat of Meteors will keep them at bay and we may call it a day. If they escalate further, then we'd do a tit for tat. However, this time, you will see the BLA and Taliban increase their tempo of operations. Lighting fires from all 3 directions for the pork army.

Round 3 might lead to naval strikes on Karachi port, sinking their frigates, Brahmos strikes on brigade HQs and air bases etc. but that's highly unlikely (<5% chance). Based on the PM's declared objectives, don't think the idea here is to degrade their war fighting capabilities in any material fashion by way of direct strikes as that's a few notches up in the escalation ladder. Think the idea is to eliminate, using precision strikes, the chain of command that authorised Pahalgam. So you kill the 4 pigs + their handler + whoever was the Captain/Major responsible for this op + his unit.

I may be completely wrong, but that's my best guess of how we're going to play this one.
 
laxman09 said:
Here's what I think is going to happen:

There will be no obvious action until they've either caught or eliminated the 4 pigs that are still out in the wild. It'll be important for them to produce their dead bodies in front of the media for the families of the victims to get their closure. They'd also want to conclude the investigation and hopefully produce irrefutable techint on how these guys are linked to Porki army.

Sometime in the coming month, we will use standoff weapons (air launched ballistic missiles, SCALP, air launched brahmos) to hit terror camps, ISI buildings (which house high value/senior army personnel who are involved with their kashmir project), any high value targets where we've got quality intel, and possibly (but unlikely) SAM and radar sites. 155mm shelling or missile strikes deep into Paki territory or strikes from naval platforms will not be on the table for strike #1. Basically, a Balakote++.

What happens next is fluid, depending on Pakistan's counter move. If its a swift retort ++ then I'm guessing the improved BVR game of our fleet, S400 area denial capabilities + the threat of Meteors will keep them at bay and we may call it a day. If they escalate further, then we'd do a tit for tat. However, this time, you will see the BLA and Taliban increase their tempo of operations. Lighting fires from all 3 directions for the pork army.

Round 3 might lead to naval strikes on Karachi port, sinking their frigates, Brahmos strikes on brigade HQs and air bases etc. but that's highly unlikely (<5% chance). Based on the PM's declared objectives, don't think the idea here is to degrade their war fighting capabilities in any material fashion by way of direct strikes as that's a few notches up in the escalation ladder. Think the idea is to eliminate, using precision strikes, the chain of command that authorised Pahalgam. So you kill the 4 pigs + their handler + whoever was the Captain/Major responsible for this op + his unit.

I may be completely wrong, but that's my best guess of how we're going to play this one.
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Yeah, flush the terrorists first, do the deportations, kill the naxalites etc.
 
laxman09 said:
Here's what I think is going to happen:

There will be no obvious action until they've either caught or eliminated the 4 pigs that are still out in the wild. It'll be important for them to produce their dead bodies in front of the media for the families of the victims to get their closure. They'd also want to conclude the investigation and hopefully produce irrefutable techint on how these guys are linked to Porki army.

Sometime in the coming month, we will use standoff weapons (air launched ballistic missiles, SCALP, air launched brahmos) to hit terror camps, ISI buildings (which house high value/senior army personnel who are involved with their kashmir project), any high value targets where we've got quality intel, and possibly (but unlikely) SAM and radar sites. 155mm shelling or missile strikes deep into Paki territory or strikes from naval platforms will not be on the table for strike #1. Basically, a Balakote++.

What happens next is fluid, depending on Pakistan's counter move. If its a swift retort ++ then I'm guessing the improved BVR game of our fleet, S400 area denial capabilities + the threat of Meteors will keep them at bay and we may call it a day. If they escalate further, then we'd do a tit for tat. However, this time, you will see the BLA and Taliban increase their tempo of operations. Lighting fires from all 3 directions for the pork army.

Round 3 might lead to naval strikes on Karachi port, sinking their frigates, Brahmos strikes on brigade HQs and air bases etc. but that's highly unlikely (<5% chance). Based on the PM's declared objectives, don't think the idea here is to degrade their war fighting capabilities in any material fashion by way of direct strikes as that's a few notches up in the escalation ladder. Think the idea is to eliminate, using precision strikes, the chain of command that authorised Pahalgam. So you kill the 4 pigs + their handler + whoever was the Captain/Major responsible for this op + his unit.

I may be completely wrong, but that's my best guess of how we're going to play this one.
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Great assessment, no war-like situation at all, few high value targets will be eliminated but not structural damage to Pakistan military.

Each week some skirmish will happen and CFVs will take place across the border, no tanks are crossing the border and no changes to geographical control of territory. Temporary spheres of aerial denial might be created but that’s all.
 
Bleh said:
Karo be
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What has happened in the last few days (without propaganda) :
  • Pakistan has panicked and moved large amount of armour & troops forward position.
  • Indian tri-services are ready but due to information blackout our readiness cannot be verified (or I won't verify).
  • ONLY small arms fire exhanced between Pakistani & Indian BoP in J&K along LoC as well as IB. No casaulties reported on either side.
  • Pakistan vacated forward BoPs today and pulled down their flags. While some members are getting happy (that they surrendered), the reality is likely they are planning for large-scale artillery strikes on our BoPs and forward areas.
  • CAPs are active and hot. Pakistan says they intercepted Rafale's flying over J&K (duhh...)
  • PMC hired by some people in Pakistan, unclear who.
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I will write reality check posts every day now.

Also, today might be the night.
 
mist_consecutive said:
I have no information about this. Nobody is picking up phone. But can confirm hot CAPs are ongoing.



Yeah Pakistan inducted few Chinese radars & AD systems. But we inducted -
  • Rafale
  • S-400
  • MRSAM
  • Akash
  • More Akash
  • Tejas
  • Astra
  • Rudra
  • Rampage
  • EW Systems
  • Radars
  • More Powerful Radars
  • Anti-Drone Systems
Yeah I can probably keep on writing, which will make toast of PAF.



Follow me. I am going to do just that.
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one suprise i would like to see


View: https://x.com/DefenceDecode/status/1888921550633799765
 
KMT said:
I'm a newbie here just wanted to ask senior fellow members here will these tension with pakistan do some good to us like you know hurrying things up in development , buying more indigenous stuff rather than importing things and better gear for our sf units and Infantry
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Its complicated especially in our case. This country is running on "Ram Bhrose". So i don't think their will be any shift in urgency to buy Indian. Only the need to buy indian will be recognized. Its urgency will materialize only when we really go kinetic and money will be tight so, Majboori mai desi kharidne padenge.

Essentially it will be economic decision and it will be taken by the govt. Import Bhadurs will always prefer foren maal.
 
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