Pahalgam Islamic Terror Attack

Patriots said:
Who knows he might be right
But India postponed the attack,to maintain the surprise factor 😀😃😃
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No, they're ch*tiya, they saw some cargo airplanes going north at night and came to a paranoid conclusion that India may strike soon
 
iNorthernerOn9 said:
Then you have no idea of their production capacity...

For ex... the IAF has approx 400 KAB-1500 LG-FE precision guided bombs in its inventory.... Russians as of March 2024 were manufacturing 3000x of KAB-250/500/1500 (KAB family) per month.
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These things can be ramped up during a total war which russia is in...its actually not a huge deal.
 
Master of Indus said:
Lol seriously?? Just because they have a smaller navy it's comparable to kangaladesh? Even though you mentioned quality of Israel navy is better! Hope you know about Yom-Kippur war. Smaller, yet better quality Israeli armed forces defeated a huge alliance of arab armies (including pakistani armed forces)!
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Please remember they don't border an Ocean. Land based systems are enough for mediterranean sea
 
shade2 said:
Israelis also have carte blanche international support from the West.

We get threat laced calls from the same West to "de-escalate" even before the bodies of the victims turn cold
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True but you're giving too much weight into those formality statements. Now only the de-escalation thing came. Previously Trump openly promised support to India for any maneuver after the Palagham incident.
India itself believes in running independent policies. India doesn't like anyone's involvement. During the Galwan time India refused when Americans tried to step in. India has good relations with even America's enemies & that's a good thing.
If India is involved in any military conflict against China & their Co then I'm sure that Americans will indirectly support India.
On the other side Israel has always been pro America due to their nature of politics & funding. They don't have to choose. That's why it's called a vaasal state of America.
 
hit&run said:
At the very onset, I warned Modi not to externalise but to make Pahalgam history on the latest Google Maps. Those who follow me must have read my nuanced analysis on this issue.

The most Ironic was that the nation went into secular overdrive because the leader wanted to handle things this way.

The visuals of tourists back on the crime scene and saying, "Choti moti batey hoti rehti hai", and how the army is facilitating them by ensuring security was nothing but heartbreaking.

It is so sad to see that the leader, let alone civilizational, has no awareness of how we are losing ideologically. The rot has gone far deeper than we thought.

Now the media is asking leading questions to the widows when they should have been protected, to inspire generations to come to fight this war relentlessly. Now they are left exposed to vultures. Hindus do not have institutions to come to their aid and brief them.

How ANI was behaving gave a good clue about how this outrage would be managed and slowly diffused.

This happens when the media sees no clarity in the leader, or the leader is a cunning wheeler-dealer managing the headlines.

I still hope the equity Modi has invested in diplomacy will allow him to wage this war without taking any pressure from anyone. Hope............
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i am not following u.
The whole 'come we are safe, terrorists cant do shit, they are cowards, look its perfectly safe' is the naaraa every single gormint does after a terrorist attack - israel did it too to prove jerusalem is safe, so did murrica after 9/11.
And it makes sense - why show the world/terrorist that their terrorism is making a difference ?
So i dont get ur logic in decrying modi for doing exactly that.

What he is supposed to do, is say/act like pahalgam doesnt matter at all in terms of tourism and take badlaa on pakis.
The first part can be done instantly- which he has done. We are waiting to see follow through on second part-which takes time.
 
Madrassa ‘Stamp’ on Pakistani Society

Don’t be misled by the polished, Westernised image of Pakistani officials in suits and ties. They represent only a small elite. A much larger segment of Pakistan’s leadership and institutions—especially since 1979—are shaped by Madrassa education. Roughly 30–40% of them come from these religious schools, where some still believe the Earth is flat, the Sun orbits the Earth, and science is a threat to faith.

Pakistan was originally declared a secular state by its founder, Mohammad Ali Jinnah, in 1947 under British influence. However, by 1953 it had become an Islamic republic, and General Zia-ul-Haq’s regime in 1979 fully Islamized the nation. Zia promoted Madrassas, increasing their numbers from 900 in 1953 to over 50,000 today. A significant portion of army and intelligence recruits now come from these institutions.
The typical Madrassa student is a rural child (Pakistan remains about 80% rural), whose family cannot afford urban schooling. Over a 10-year period, students memorize the Quran and Hadith—Islamic sayings and laws attributed to the Prophet. The curriculum emphasizes a worldview where non-believers (Kafirs) must be converted or fought/Killed, and women are accorded an inferior status.

Historically, these teachings helped unite fragmented Arab tribes, fuelling military conquests from Spain to India. For centuries, Islamic armies expanded rapidly, until the superior military power of the West reversed the tide from the 18th century onward.

In the last 45 years, Pakistan’s Islamic identity has served as a psychological counterweight to a rising, more confident India. After losing three wars to India (1948, 1965, 1971), Pakistan sought parity through military aid from the U.S. and by stoking religious zeal, hoping it could tip the balance. They went ahead and stole formulae for nuclear weapons.

India, meanwhile, has focused on economic growth, science, and technology. If India prevails again in any future conflict, it will be a symbolic defeat for Pakistan’s ideological narrative. The gap in development between the two nations continues to widen.

Eventually, Pakistan may see a figure akin to Turkey’s Mustafa Kemal Atatürk of 1923 emerge—someone who rejects religious extremism and leads the country toward secularism and progress.
 
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