Pahalgam Islamic Terror Attack

[GaudaNaresh]

Here us Indians are shitting all over Modi for being a cuck and backing down with many members of this forum borderline OD'ing on blackpills while Pakis are literally shitting themselves everyday expecting an attack. Honestly, I think the actual attack may take place at a much later date with which our men are comfortable and confident of achieving success but the top brass may be handing over false info to random middle and lower ranked officers to trace informants to Pakis and cleansing the armed forces of traitors. They went from imminent attack on 24th or 25th to up until yesterday proclaiming that India would invade in 24 to 36 hours (which did not happen) and now it's a few hours.

If you expect anything before early December, then limit your expectations to Balakot part-2.
If you expect something BIGGER, then you wait till december, JUST like 1971.
What were we doing in May 1971 ? posturing. Marching up and down everywhere. Preparing for kartvaya path marches on republic day right at the border.
We didnt do SHIT till december.
Why ? Because december = passes freeze = Chinku out of the picture.
Posturing till december = bleed paki strategic fuel reserve, leave them 2-3 weeks of fuel storage when real war begins.

Why dont Indians learn from history ???
This is why i said, i am giving modi rope till end of Jaunary 2026. Because I WANT something big to happen but for that, it has to be 1971 redux : wait till border with china freezes and in meantime, bleed paki strategic reserve.

This is LITERALLY how we gave katuastan a cicumcision and took of the bangla foreskin.

So just realize, if you are all going NOW NOW NOW, you are wanting 'thappar and run away' like Balkot.
For its insanely stupid and i would wish every single chief of the services fired if they were stupid enough to even THINK 1971 is doable without China being out of the equation.

 

[Sanatani]

All said and done, we need to promote our MIC as if we are always in a state of war. Pakistan, Bangladesh, china and internal enemies, actually our condition is same as that of Israel and we need to behave accordingly.

 

[maximus777]

All said and done, we need to promote our MIC as if we are always in a state of war. Pakistan, Bangladesh, china and internal enemies, actually our condition is same as that of Israel and we need to behave accordingly.

This! For fks sake, Pak has more AWACS than we do and this has not remedied since 2019 Nowshera dogfight!!!

 

[Decahex]

If you expect anything before early December, then limit your expectations to Balakot part-2.
If you expect something BIGGER, then you wait till december, JUST like 1971.
What were we doing in May 1971 ? posturing. Marching up and down everywhere. Preparing for kartvaya path marches on republic day right at the border.
We didnt do SHIT till december.
Why ? Because december = passes freeze = Chinku out of the picture.
Posturing till december = bleed paki strategic fuel reserve, leave them 2-3 weeks of fuel storage when real war begins.

Why dont Indians learn from history ???
This is why i said, i am giving modi rope till end of Jaunary 2026. Because I WANT something big to happen but for that, it has to be 1971 redux : wait till border with china freezes and in meantime, bleed paki strategic reserve.

This is LITERALLY how we gave katuastan a cicumcision and took of the bangla foreskin.

So just realize, if you are all going NOW NOW NOW, you are wanting 'thappar and run away' like Balkot.
For its insanely stupid and i would wish every single chief of the services fired if they were stupid enough to even THINK 1971 is doable without China being out of the equation.

Bro, read my post. I'm not advocating for India to barge right down into Pakistan this instant... I'm staunchly against India acting in haste and make mistakes. Read through my post history if you want.

 

[srev2004]

This is the quote we need to digest into our psyche. “Losers always complain about their best, Winners go home and f**k the prom queen”

 

[Rango]

Two people praised Chinese handling of Islam. It is superb. Forced lowering of Muslim birth rates was the best move.

But they have 25 million, we have 250 million (650 million in the neighborhood). We made huge mistakes in 1947.

Last major Arabic-style mosque in China loses its domes

Exclusive: Experts say changes to Grand Mosque of Shadian mark completion of five-year sinification campaign

www.theguardian.com

How China is tearing down Islam

Thousands of mosques have been altered or destroyed as Beijing’s suppression of Islamic culture spreads

ig.ft.com

 

[srev2004]

View: https://youtu.be/gXDSxgDUv-c?si=LnTAeFRG_YiDtCkG

 

[fire starter]

View: https://x.com/ani/status/1917869081773904195?s=61

Leaving it here without comments. I pity her husband though.

How peace and justice can coexist together lol women are mentally retarded & they lack common sense.

That's why they should be strictly kept out of decision making.

Women are such a hypocrite & driven by aesthetics that they even fantasize about good looking criminals & serial killers.

 

[shade2]

This! For fks sake, Pak has more AWACS than we do and this has not remedied since 2019 Nowshera dogfight!!!

Import Marshalls waiting for brochures from US, Israel and Sweden to decide on AWACS.
They could have ordered more Netra, but no.

Now the Embraer Airframe used for Netra is out of production

It's the same case as with Tejas, took them forever to decide, GE plant closed down, then the GE plant had to be restarted, ((( supply chain issues ))) drama ensued etc.

 

[shade2]

This is the level of houthiyas we have amongst us 'hindus', zero shatrubodh, that too husband is a naval officer ! No wonder we are fkd, hindu rashtra will never happen with such sellouts and weak minds. Peace peace shanti. Fk it

Most wimmonz are dumb and go with the flow or have their own ((( motives )))
Should not take their opinions seriously when dealing with serious matters.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Bro, read my post. I'm not advocating for India to barge right down into Pakistan this instant...

yes, i did. You want israel-like propaganda war against islam.
That is not possible at this point because we havent decolonized our media industry yet.
Heck, even with Israel never having a colonial media industry and being hardcore jew nation of genocide survivors, they have 25% of their media being libbu simps.

Remember, there were about a 100 Israeli victims of the terrorist attack in the october attack, who were literally at a rave that was leftard rave of 'peace with palestine, get rid of checkpoints' etc.

So it tells you how incredibly difficult it is to shift the overton window and how incredible Modi's success is that now we have news and thinktank services like Swarajya or the Palki Sharma show, etc.

This is also why i voted Maga and side with the american racist whites: because i realized that to attack islamism/khalistanism and my personal axe to grind transgenderism, you *MUST* destroy the root of the liberal world order. Which resides in Murrica. And there is currently a dude who wants to basically be a whitewalker to all the libbus - straight up elimination : Trumpwa.

What you ask for, requires the liberal world order to die or be further destabilized. And liberal world order's makkah and madinah are both in USA.
So this is what deshbhakt hinduvta like me are doing - jar se ukhaar raha hoon liberal world order ko.

 

[jor_se_bolo_pkmkb]

This! For fks sake, Pak has more AWACS than we do and this has not remedied since 2019 Nowshera dogfight!!!

They have more numerically, but they are a fraction of our size geographically. We need to monitor a much smaller area.

That's what my understanding of this asymmetry is.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Two people praised Chinese handling of Islam. It is superb. Forced lowering of Muslim birth rates was the best move.

But they have 25 million, we have 250 million (650 million in the neighborhood). We made huge mistakes in 1947.

Last major Arabic-style mosque in China loses its domes

Exclusive: Experts say changes to Grand Mosque of Shadian mark completion of five-year sinification campaign

www.theguardian.com

How China is tearing down Islam

Thousands of mosques have been altered or destroyed as Beijing’s suppression of Islamic culture spreads

ig.ft.com

The numbers is not the issue here of muslims. Even if China had 200 million muslims, it wouldnt matter. Because Han Chinese are unified in not just their anti-islamism, but willingness to suffer to delete Islam.
we are not. Plus han also has the economic AND gormint ecosystem to delegitimize Islam systematically.
We do not.
We need the precursors to make the material we want.
You are whining why doesnt India have water when Chinese are drowning in water, while overlooking the fact that we dont have the hydrogen and oxygen to make water, while chinku does.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

This! For fks sake, Pak has more AWACS than we do and this has not remedied since 2019 Nowshera dogfight!!!

numbers are not that big for pakistan to overcome their AWACS quality issue.
We have P8I posiedon. Thats like being the eye of Sauron, while the best the opposition has is that stupid water mirror of galadriel.

We dont need that many AWACS coz we already have the ones where 2 of them is sufficient to light up every corner of Pakistan for anything bigger than a crop duster biplane taking off and landing.

 

[Decahex]

yes, i did. You want israel-like propaganda war against islam.
That is not possible at this point because we havent decolonized our media industry yet.
Heck, even with Israel never having a colonial media industry and being hardcore jew nation of genocide survivors, they have 25% of their media being libbu simps.

Remember, there were about a 100 Israeli victims of the terrorist attack in the october attack, who were literally at a rave that was leftard rave of 'peace with palestine, get rid of checkpoints' etc.

So it tells you how incredibly difficult it is to shift the overton window and how incredible Modi's success is that now we have news and thinktank services like Swarajya or the Palki Sharma show, etc.

This is also why i voted Maga and side with the american racist whites: because i realized that to attack islamism/khalistanism and my personal axe to grind transgenderism, you *MUST* destroy the root of the liberal world order. Which resides in Murrica. And there is currently a dude who wants to basically be a whitewalker to all the libbus - straight up elimination : Trumpwa.

What you ask for, requires the liberal world order to die or be further destabilized. And liberal world order's makkah and madinah are both in USA.
So this is what deshbhakt hinduvta like me are doing - jar se ukhaar raha hoon liberal world order ko.

Nope. It's not about propaganda. It's about exposing the traitors and agents within the forces. They've cried wolf 3 times in the past 7-8 days. Once on 24th-25th with their armored and artillery divisions being mobilized with haste, then 2 days back where they said they had credible news that India was going to launch an offensive in 24-36 hours which did not happen and now they are saying India will attack in a few hours, which definitely also won't happen. There's no way they would have access to such information unless they had agents at the rank of colonel or at the very least a major. Our top brass is likely passing on ruses to create false alarms and thereby get these agents to expose themselves.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Nope. It's not about propaganda. It's about exposing the traitors and agents within the forces. They've cried wolf 3 times in the past 7-8 days. Once on 24th-25th with their armored and artillery divisions being mobilized with haste, then 2 days back where they said they had credible news that India was going to launch an offensive in 24-36 hours which did not happen and now they are saying India will attack in a few hours, which definitely also won't happen. There's no way they would have access to such information unless they had agents at the rank of colonel or at the very least a major.

Nah, these are not things you deduce as enemy only from having moles inside the enemy. In fact, this is how everyone reacts when they SEE the enemy marching up and down the border and mobilizing.
Pakis did the same in 1971 - cried wolf. and we did the same in 1971 : just marching up and down and flexing like its mr universe contest till winter froze the passes.

These are not information they are accessing, these are basically 'HELP MEEEEE WAAWAAAAA THE ENEMY IS GATHERING AND WILL HIT ME TOMORROW' whines.

If Pakis really DID have intel of Indian attack plans, they'd not whine and say anything. They'd goad us further and make us look like pussies and walk us into a trap and score 3:1 Kill to death ratio against us and dance around to the superiority of moozie to hindu soldier.
Because thats what *I* would do if i knew when and where the enemy is going to attack.

 

[spikey360]

From punishing Pakistan, they have now reduced it to punishing each terrorist.

And new fanbois will say, Salwar shivering is sufficient, we have stopped oil flow in Indus, what not.
In reality, nothing has changed, the next big terror attack is in the works.

 

[hit&run]

Bro, the education and internal security part are happening quietly.
Lets look at objective facts :
NCERT deleted 75% of the chapter material on Mughals. Now, Mughals get the same treatment as Vijayanagar in the 90s school books : 1 chapter of 5 pages. the end. How is that not fixing education ??

As for internal security, lets look at objective facts : India is the MOST internally secure its ever been since independence: under Modi, area of effective control of maoists has shrunk by 80%, Islamic terrorism has been contained to Kashmir only - no more spillover in hindu heartland.

So how is that not systematic progress of exactly what you ask ?? You cannot have a Hitler-like burn all books and del *.* the entire education system and make new one in a democracy.
Gotta work within the system you got.

We are not capable of frontal attack on islam. Because reality is, 1 out of 5 muslim men everywhere are willing to die or islam if they percieve islam is under threat. PERIOD.
This means, to fight islam, you *MUST* have the economic-political ecosystem to exploit Islam's structural weaknesses - such as infighting and fratricide - *WHILE* you have the awaam willingness to suffer the terrorism blowback that will come if you declare war on Islam.

And as objective evidence shows, ONLY ONE COUNTRY ON THE PLANET has declared war on islam - china. because China is the ONLY country that satisfies both the criteria to fight islam - ability of masses to absorb islamic terrorism AND having the political+economic ecosystem to structurally attack islam.

Every single country on the planet lacks either one of the two essential components to fight islam or both.
And until you HAVE this capability, its foolish to declare war against islam - its a war you wont win without the two above factors being present and definition of foolish is starting a war you arent reasonably certain you can win.

Modi's work is to destabilize the 70 year old liberal ecosystem. Which he has to a great degree- now we have several Hinduvta or openly pro-hindu news drivers and think tanks blossoming tanks to Modi.

If you expect the first hinduvta guy to come in and declare war against Islam after we suffer 70 years of systematic muslim tolerance and propaganda in the ecosystem, then that hinduvta is a fool like Jamie Lannister - rash and more interested in badlaa even when it makes shit worse.

What i expect is Modi to be the Dadabhai Naoroji of hinduvta politics - sow the seeds of anti-islam in the political-ecosystem, just like Naoroji sowed the seeds of the IDEA of independence.
he watered that plant for many years, till it grew up to the FIRST main independence movement stalwarts - the Lal-Bal-Pal trio.

The time to fight islam, if everything goes well according to plan, for hinduvta, is not earlier than 2040.
because that is the time needed to reach the China level in terms of economic power + shift the cultural overton window for fighting Islam.

A clear tell for how ready India is to fight Islam, is Indian attitude towards Abhinandan vs Israeli attitude towards their 1000+ hostages : Indian mentality is "STAHP !! WE NEED TO STAHP TO BRING OUR SON BACK HOME'. Israeli mentality is 'those hostages are aleady dead, lets act like they are dead and go for straight payback'.

So Modi is no fool, he wont placate the 5000 parashuraam type hinduvta and lose the backing of the rest 99% hindus who are pussies.
And neither should he, because his job is to shift the overton window and be a Naoroji, not a Netaji Bose.
There is no Netaji bose in 1870. Why ?? because Netaji Bose is product of the plant that Naoroji planted, when that plant grew and bore fruit.
Such a plant didnt exist in mature form in 1870, same way as the overton window to fight islam doesnt exist in India today.
Create the window and learn from thy enemy.

Our goal is long term win. Not short term win. And in this, learn from history and learn from muslims - they made initial forays into India to try and conquer the idolator in 750 AD.
Got their asses kicked hard and never tried again till 970s. Why ? Coz the period in between, Gurjara-Pratiharas ruled western Indian subcontinent and moozie knew, fighting pratiharas is death.
So moozie waited 200 years till pratiharas collapsed and AS SOON AS they collapsed, moozie genocides began.
We too need the same kind of patience to create the window of opportunity suitable for us.
Because one thing is clear - fighting islam is the most serious fight one can undertake - its a fight where once the fight directly starts, there is no draw, there is no tactical win. you either win or you die.

11 years is slow enough.
One controversy can reduce 50 seats in no time.
A good entrepreneur always has insurance policies and invests money in a system that becomes self-sustaining and keeps generating dividends even when he is out of work and down.
BJP's insurance is empowering Hindu temples and providing them with a program of political activism through religious activities.
Second BJP's investment should be in developing Hindu missionary institutes that are quick on their feet with a clarity to cater for Hindus only and do Ghar Wapsi.
The third is finding an alternative to RSS and developing a hybrid of RSS and Bajrang Dal or any militant organisation with street power. I can frame their doctrine if they want.
BJP's core is middle-class Hindus, and against popular rhetoric of roti, kapda, makkan and taxes, what mobilises and unites middle-class Hindus is anti-Jihadism. During elections, Modi makes so-called inflammatory speeches. This tells he knows what works, but when in power, he became secular in theory and practice?
Last time Sri Ram Temple saved them.
It may have given them limited results locally, but in other states the dividends were significant. Not only that, the after effects were so significant they won Haryana, MH and one more state, I forgot the name, because of overall Hindu gratitude.
This time it will be even more difficult, given they are aspiring to become Congress-I.
God forbid, if Congress-I came to power, it would undo everything in 6 months.

 

[iNorthernerOn9]

They have more numerically, but they are a fraction of our size geographically. We need to monitor a much smaller area.

That's what my understanding of this asymmetry is.

Absolutely wrong... IAF has to monitor a very large border with just 6... of which 3x Phalcon have relatively lower endurance.

Pakis have 9... they need only 4-5 to monitor their entire airspace at once... means they can mount 24×7 airborne airspace surveillance of their entire territory by rotation... while we cannot even barely monitor the western border with our 6 systems. Precarious state.

 

[MasterChief]

Absolutely wrong... IAF has to monitor a very large border with just 6... of which 3x Phalcon have relatively lower endurance.

Pakis have 9... they need only 4-5 to monitor their entire airspace at once... means they can mount 24×7 airborne airspace surveillance of their entire territory by rotation... while we cannot even barely monitor the western border with our 6 systems. Precarious state.

DAC still hasn't passed Netra MK1A..
And when will CCS ? It will take a long time.. BJP had to move after Balakote itself.. But alas..