Pahalgam Islamic Terror Attack

[Ajayant Tripathi]

Why should we not hold DGMO level talks? What stops us preparing for the action that we want to take while some other part of government engages enemy in endless rounds of talks? Similar whinning happened when there was a standoff with China. Why are we holding talks ..we ultimately got what we wanted.

When I joined DFI & subsequently DFB, I came with an expectation that people here will have greater level of understanding of defense matters, strategic thinking, opinions & POVs more refined than Aam Junta. 95% messages on this forum especially on event driven topics like Balakot, Chinese Standoff, Pahalgam is endless drivel.

Funniest thing is people whinning here somehow think that it is "building pressure on government". Do we think a government which does not move an inch after repeated taunts by adversary countries, massive SM activitiy by inflencers, hyperactive opposition & 24*7 media , will somehow change its timetable because some DFB members rant every half an hour?

What can we say. They don't listen. Many forumers have multiple times told them not to spam. But they do.

 

[Psacha123]

Speaker Johnson: “India has to stand against terrorism. We will do everything possible to support those efforts. Trump administration will help India with energy and resources to fight terrorism”


View: https://x.com/adityarajkaul/status/1919618694289772651?s=46

 

[Decahex]

0.5 front is being activated.
Have they got wind of something?


View: https://x.com/mithilawaala/status/1919591713464525042?s=46

This is one hell of a recipe to destroy all benefits of doubt and public sympathies they gained during farm law protests in 2021. If the mobilization we are undertaking is genuine and these khetichods do indeed end up obstructing the logistics, the government can definitely declare martial law there. They'll be lucky if they're merely detained and nothing else happens. There is no question of Punjabi marginalization this time as opposed to in the farm law protests because a lot of Punjabi families have at least one or two members serving in the army or served in the past. They'll know that what these idiots are doing is treasonous and is a strategic threat.

 

[Asyoulikeit]

we are filling up the reservoir and work on dam flushing desliting means more reservoir capacity .

this is still short term , no water for pak for next week but long term there needs to be diversion . i think plan here is short tunnel + canal to divert chenab to ravi .

imho this + whatever military action is finally gonna be a chain around Pakistani neck . makes me wonder why this was never done before .





its just information warfare . no aircraft was shot down . so far its just cross border firing.

Mahabharata had same sequence of events. Krishna tried every possible way to convince kauravas to act just. He gave them all the chances.
Similarly, we have given pakistan enough chances now. Modi's personal visit, letting pakistan investigate on our soil, everytime. Now they can't say they weren't given any chances. The time for dharma yuddh has arrived.

 

[Rango]

This is insane... 80% of her likes were from Indians. I never even heard of her here in the US.


View: https://x.com/Harshpatel1408/status/1919627232579862959

 

[GaudaNaresh]

I really salute your proactive action. I know its frustrating. But thats how the system has been from beginning. No one has truly rocked this ship. Nehru-Clan made sure the imeprial design remains intact. So, I am not going to talk more about it. You know it very well.

But i will say one thing the real reactivity comes from being closer to stimulus. Our power centres are away from it. I think you know that a Mayor in an Indian City do not have much power. Instead its the babu. They can overrule Mayor. These babus are only ruled by the state govt. I will limit myself here.

The good thing is the actions of the govt. has now publicly exposed depth and extent of the rot in our system. I am happy its now in full public view and their is no mask to hide behind. I just hope there are enough people who remember it and don't forget it at the time of election.

I think its a golden opportunity for the govt. to set the house right. Yes the babus are XO but they too have to follow the orders and the current circumstances afford the govt. proper shield to carry out cleansing operation.

In end what you experienced will not change. These babus will not change.

I commend the govt. in exposing them. Now i expects them to do some house cleaning. No Indian babu is going to talk about bad news. They are plain paper pushers.

More t

Oh i have gotten babus to change but then again, i am an indian who spent 50% of my minor years outside india and 90% of my adult life outside india.
I know how to get babus to comply - my dad was complaining while i was there that the new apartment he bought- the babus wont do mutation till he pays 5 lac ghoos. i told him let me look into it - i went to talk to babu as a proper bhodrolok.
he asked for ghoos and told me to fuck off else ghoos becomes bigger as i am NRI. so i told him i will bring ghoos next week and took appointment.
I work IT and i have one of the most sought after IT certificates- so i did some 'IT-giri'. i went back to babu with an empty duffel bag and i pulled out a file and started asking questions about the street of chicago where babus son was living and doing degree.
Kind of pointed out how babus son had 3 years left and chicago is a very dangerous city in USA - 4th highest murder rate. Afterall i live in usa for last 20 years so i know usa very well...especially Chicago where i have many friends... Isnt that city too dangerous ? all the while keeping stone-cold eye contact.
and then i asked him how much was the amount again ?
He flat out said - what amount ? arrey...you misunderstood me...your file will be ready in 2 hours, please return after lunch.
I did. mutation done.

problem is, most desis dont think like me. 99% of the time, they are pussies who pay and the 1% who dont are straight gundaas who pull out a gun.

 

[Rango]

cultural difference, not genetic.
Bengali muslims have significant non-bengali population as origin base. People forget, ganga & brahmaputra massively changed course during 1500s or so and this opened up old southern Kamrup for bengali colonization - which is basically what Sylhet and Chattogram is.
And most of it was powered by land grants to any and all muslims - be it some persian noble who was on wrong side of a war and kicked out or some afghan dude or some hyderabadi.

So bong muslims have always been aloof regarding a sense of bong identity beyond just base culture - they dont have sense of patriotism, nationalism, etc anywhere remotely close to a normal population does.

This is the main reason why Bengali hindus are literally the #1 people in ENTIRE india for engaging in violence against the British by a country mile ( bengali hindus make up 50% of the ledger records of kalapani prison, where only high level political prisoners or insurgents were locked up in) while bengali muslims are literal zeros in standing up to the british, despite making up 60% of undivided bengal population.

I suppose I am influenced by the fact that during partition, the vast majority of deaths were Punjabi Muslims vs Punjabi Sikhs & Hindus. Bengali Muslims vs Bengali Hindus was far more peaceful, relatively speaking.

Then during the 1971 Bangladesh Liberation War, the Pakis (Punjabis, Pasthuns and Mohajirs) were far more brutal than the Bengalis yet again.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

I suppose I am influenced by the fact that during partition, the vast majority of deaths were Punjabi Muslims vs Punjabi Sikhs & Hindus. Bengali Muslims vs Bengali Hindus was far more peaceful, relatively speaking.

Then during the 1971 Bangladesh Liberation War, the Pakis (Punjabis, Pasthuns and Mohajirs) were far more brutal than the Bengalis yet again.

yes well we bong hindus are not chimps. we cant out-chimp the muslim chimps in river of blood type violence.
But we can out-british the british because like them, we too are a scheming, conniving, smart farmer people group and due to kolkata being capital, we got to learn the brit from inside out. So we were excellent at out-briting the brit - which means track them, surgical strikes on their leadership, etc etc.

Our form of violence is the whole baagha jatin style violence - cold, calculated, ruthless and precise. But we cant compete with isloo chimps in walking around with a sword in hand and chopping heads.
This is why we take a backseat when it comes to dealing with chimps. But we can deal with gandus like brits better than any desi.
coz we are same type of gandus and we have levelled up the most in british exp points.

 

[haldilal]

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[sorcerer]

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The reason why many nations including the US deep state would want to drag India to a war.

 

[ThE BrOkEn HeArT]

I feel like Paki and UP/Bihari/Urdu speaking Muslims are far more violent than Kanglus...who are still far more violent than Indian non-Muslims.

Maybe genetic differences.

Not genetic but diffrence of religious books. Hindus don't teach religion to their kids in childhood bcz it is a civilization of new ideas and evolution. And even the main scripture like Bhagwat Geeta only preach Peace... Peace of soul. Moksha.
On the other hand Islam which is purely based on a book named Quran and Hadiths preaches only violence and hate against non Muslims. Quran calls Idol worshipers "dirty.. Donkey.. Hell fire deserving... Worst of creatures" and then command Muslims to Kill them if they do no submit to Islam. And they learn it since their childhood in madrasha. This is the issue and differences.

 

[Samaritan]

Israel is able to do because of USA veto in Security council. We lack such assurance from anyone in UNSC top 5.

And what will happen if UNSC passes resolution against India ? we will backtrack !
Its all bull sheet !

 

[indus_markII]

‘India will become the third largest economy within a year and maybe even the largest economy in 20 years’​

‘India will become the third largest economy within a year and maybe even the largest economy in 20 years’ - Cafemutual.com

Dr. Manoranjan Sharma, Chief Economist, Infomerics Valuation and Rating, shares his views on the current state of the economy and the impact of recent big events like tariff announcements on the economy.

cafemutual.com

The reason why many nations including the US deep state would want to drag India to a war.

War will become a necessity as we grow up the ladder. Similar to how US, Europe supported China in building low cost manufacturing base but are now complaining against it for stealing jobs. Same thing will happen with us in long run. US doesn't want any competitor to arise. But like all super powers we have to develop and maintain our own hegemony in our region of influence.

 

[haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars, Lol.

 

[Viper316]

Why should we not hold DGMO level talks? What stops us preparing for the action that we want to take while some other part of government engages enemy in endless rounds of talks? Similar whinning happened when there was a standoff with China. Why are we holding talks ..we ultimately got what we wanted.

When I joined DFI & subsequently DFB, I came with an expectation that people here will have greater level of understanding of defense matters, strategic thinking, opinions & POVs more refined than Aam Junta. 95% messages on this forum especially on event driven topics like Balakot, Chinese Standoff, Pahalgam is endless drivel.

Funniest thing is people whinning here somehow think that it is "building pressure on government". Do we think a government which does not move an inch after repeated taunts by adversary countries, massive SM activitiy by inflencers, hyperactive opposition & 24*7 media , will somehow change its timetable because some DFB members rant every half an hour?

You are comparing apples and oranges, chinese standoff is completely different from current scenario. paxtan official standing on pahalgam terrorist attack is it is a false flag operation. We know the terrorist attack planned on paxtan soil and the preparators are pak army themselves. We are fighting a proxy war and talking to the preparators parallely. when every engagements in the past thrown in the backburner these protocol serving talks are unnecessary

 

[TopWatcher]

How can we fight, so much change in demography .

Khangress has destroyed our land.

 

[Samaritan]

People should stop dickriding Modi's IWT masterstroke. iwt is not even scrapped just put on hold sometime later hold Will be quitely lifted. And even if modi makes a replica of China's three gorges dam in ladakh still we won't be able to hold indus.though we could make man made floods

Absolutely correct ! we can not stop water forever ! but the fear of we can stop at any time will serve our purpose. In next 5 to 10 years we will install infra to control the water flow , the day there is increase in terror , we stop the flow and we can release if they stop. It can happen !

 

[Rango]

Not genetic but diffrence of religious books. Hindus don't teach religion to their kids in childhood bcz it is a civilization of new ideas and evolution. And even the main scripture like Bhagwat Geeta only preach Peace... Peace of soul. Moksha.
On the other hand Islam which is purely based on a book named Quran and Hadiths preaches only violence and hate against non Muslims. Quran calls Idol worshipers "dirty.. Donkey.. Hell fire deserving... Worst of creatures" and then command Muslims to Kill them if they do no submit to Islam. And they learn it since their childhood in madrasha. This is the issue and differences.

Agreed.

Though I was comparing the two sets of Muslims to each other (Kanglus = Bangladeshis). And their genetic differences possibly impacting each group's level of Islam spurred violence.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

‘India will become the third largest economy within a year and maybe even the largest economy in 20 years’​

‘India will become the third largest economy within a year and maybe even the largest economy in 20 years’ - Cafemutual.com

Dr. Manoranjan Sharma, Chief Economist, Infomerics Valuation and Rating, shares his views on the current state of the economy and the impact of recent big events like tariff announcements on the economy.

cafemutual.com

The reason why many nations including the US deep state would want to drag India to a war.

And if Indian deepstate has an iota of sense, then Indian deepstate wont be looking to avoid said war but game theory test run on picking the moment and time for this war.
Because no rich AND powerful nation has ever gotten to be rich and powerful without a defining war that they've won. for china it was korea, for USA it was ww1 & war with mexico, for UK it was defeating napoleon, etc etc.
There are no free chairs at the high table - you earn it by paying the blood price. its the old mongol strategy of 'destroy one city and make skull mountain of every single living creature in this city and the other 10 cities near it will submit to you without a single arrow fired'.

 

[dumdumdum]

You are comparing apples and oranges, chinese standoff is completely different from current scenario. paxtan official standing on pahalgam terrorist attack is it is a false flag operation. We know the terrorist attack planned on paxtan soil and the preparators are pak army themselves. We are fighting a proxy war and talking to the preparators parallely. when every engagements in the past thrown in the backburner these protocol serving talks are unnecessary

I am comparing apples to apples. I.E. Rants on DFI/DFB about DGMO talks then and talks now. Both are rants by people who can't help but hypervantilate. Chinese standoff involved deaths of nearly 2 dozen Indian soldiers. In both cases talks and other measures went in parallel.

The only purpose these rants serve is "I am smarter than them". Do an objective assessments of rants we see here. Each person essentially says "Everybody else is stupid. I know what is the right thing. If they don't do what I think is right then they are damn useless"