Russian Ukrainian War

Footage of a Russian Su-35 aircraft attacking, presumably with a Kh-35U missile, a Ukrainian ATCR-33S radar at an airfield near Kharkov. The Kh-35U missile has a range of up to 260 kilometers and has a 145-kilogram warhead, we previously wrote about them. The ATCR-33S radar was developed in Italy and is designed to control the air traffic of aircraft at a range of up to 83 km. The radar can be equipped with a G-33 parabolic antenna or an antenna with an ALE phased array. The radar's operating range is from 2700 to 2900 MHz, and its azimuth coverage is 360 degrees. As a result of the Kh-35U missile strike, the ATCR-33S radar was completely destroyed. The video also shows the impact of another Russian Kh-35U missile, near the Ukrainian Skala-M air defense radar; the radar was possibly hit by shrapnel.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zhfXuljG3Y
 
The Russian Su-35S fighter jet shot down a Ukrainian MiG-29 for the first time with an R-37M missile at a colossal range of 213 km. This was reported by specialized Russian resources. It is worth noting that there are no photos or videos confirming this, in fact, it is impossible to confirm this, since the Ukrainian media do not publish footage of destroyed equipment. As reported, the Russian Su-35S fighter jet used ultra-long-range R-37M missiles, a link to a video about them is in the comments to the video. The MiG-29 was detected due to the fact that the Su-35S fighter jet is equipped with the N035 Irbis radar. The Irbis radar has a maximum peak power of up to 20 kW. Which allows it to detect targets at a range of up to 400 km. The MiG-29 has an RCS of approximately 5 m2, the N035 Irbis radar can detect an air target with an RCS of 3 m2 at a range of up to 400 km.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42i928W_V2U
 

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Russia is slowly but surely returning to using older and older systems. They have mostly exhausted their modern weapons platforms that were somewhat advanced.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF-S4ktINDU

I recommend, yall watch this video. Really explains the transition russian forces are going through as a result of fighting this war for nearly 3 years
 
Even old tanks are dangerous, at least because of their mass. On our front, the Russians use 3,200 tanks, while France has only 400, and Germany - 200.
This is a war of transition. The very concept of using armored vehicles is changing. Have you seen the video from a week ago, when a Russian armored group was destroyed, not allowing it to deploy in combat formation? Now both sides are actively using robots in the form of assault platforms. Armored vehicles here need to be light and maneuverable. You can't stick your nose out on the surface - everything is swarming with FPV drones and various loitering ammunition's. So a tank in the MBT concept is a dying creature.
 
The Russian army has started using new ammunition for FPV drones in Ukraine. They can be called new conditionally, since they are homemade and created from sections of a hose with a powder charge used in the UR-77 "Meteorite" mine clearing units, also known as the "Snake Gorynych". Details in the video.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55dS03EgHSY
 
The Russian Su-35S fighter jet shot down a Ukrainian MiG-29 for the first time with an R-37M missile at a colossal range of 213 km. This was reported by specialized Russian resources. It is worth noting that there are no photos or videos confirming this, in fact, it is impossible to confirm this, since the Ukrainian media do not publish footage of destroyed equipment. As reported, the Russian Su-35S fighter jet used ultra-long-range R-37M missiles, a link to a video about them is in the comments to the video. The MiG-29 was detected due to the fact that the Su-35S fighter jet is equipped with the N035 Irbis radar. The Irbis radar has a maximum peak power of up to 20 kW. Which allows it to detect targets at a range of up to 400 km. The MiG-29 has an RCS of approximately 5 m2, the N035 Irbis radar can detect an air target with an RCS of 3 m2 at a range of up to 400 km.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42i928W_V2U


Many people must have heard about a Wonderwaffe "The Meteor"

Miraculously this wonderwaffe is not being used against Russian jets meanwhile third grade R-37M breaking havoc in Ukraine.

Western wonderwaffe are just shiny toys for exhibition purpose only with exaggerated figures in brochure.
 
Many people must have heard about a Wonderwaffe "The Meteor"

Miraculously this wonderwaffe is not being used against Russian jets meanwhile third grade R-37M breaking havoc in Ukraine.

Western wonderwaffe are just shiny toys for exhibition purpose only with exaggerated figures in brochure.
Do you even think about what you just said before posting.

How in the hell could Ukrainian Soviet era jets use modern European air to air missiles like meteor which are made to be used by European jets like typhoon and Rafale.

And no, meteor is indeed the best air to air missile in the world as of 2024.
We use it aswell btw
 
Do you even think about what you just said before posting.

How in the hell could Ukrainian Soviet era jets use modern European air to air missiles like meteor which are made to be used by European jets like typhoon and Rafale.

And no, meteor is indeed the best air to air missile in the world as of 2024.
We use it aswell btw

Some how your knowledge match UN Generals intelligence.

Soviet Era jets can fire JDAM, AMRAAM, HARM missiles but not Meteor.

Due to marketing purpose, Meteor is not installed beyond Eurofighter, Rafale and gripen. It doesn't mean it can't install on other jets.

R-37M has multiple kills including a world record (> 200 km kill ) but Meteor which have zero kills, zero real battle use still a world best missile today.

Please spare us from your superior knowledge sir.
 
Some how your knowledge match UN Generals intelligence.

Soviet Era jets can fire JDAM, AMRAAM, HARM missiles but not Meteor.

Due to marketing purpose, Meteor is not installed beyond Eurofighter, Rafale and gripen. It doesn't mean it can't install on other jets.

R-37M has multiple kills including a world record (> 200 km kill ) but Meteor which have zero kills, zero real battle use still a world best missile today.

Please spare us from your superior knowledge sir.
Alright you have 0 idea what you are talking about that makes sense.
Soviet Era jets can fire JDAM, AMRAAM, HARM missiles but not Meteor
Do you know how they are even using HARMs? They have been “retrofitted” on those jets and they don’t perform as well as they would on the western jets because of incomplete suite of sensors and straight up not being meant for integration on those jets.


And BVR missiles are a lot more complicated with their sensor integration than those weapon systems.
Im sure you don’t know how BVR missiles work so let me tell you:

First and foremost you need a capable radar to even lock onto enemies far away, you can’t shoot the missile if the range of your radar if shorter than the missile itself.

And Ukrainian jets have garbage radars which haven’t seen the newer radar upgrades that Russian jets have.


TLDR: You can’t just slap weapon systems on jets with shit radars and avionics, at least not without suffering some performance drawbacks.
R-37M has multiple kills including a world record (> 200 km kill ) but Meteor which have zero kills, zero real battle use still a world best missile today.
Taking you absolute genius logic into account, Aim-9 sidewinder is the worlds best missile because it has the most confirmed air to air kills.
 
Alright you have 0 idea what you are talking about that makes sense.

Do you know how they are even using HARMs? They have been “retrofitted” on those jets and they don’t perform as well as they would on the western jets because of incomplete suite of sensors and straight up not being meant for integration on those jets.


And BVR missiles are a lot more complicated with their sensor integration than those weapon systems.
Im sure you don’t know how BVR missiles work so let me tell you:

First and foremost you need a capable radar to even lock onto enemies far away, you can’t shoot the missile if the range of your radar if shorter than the missile itself.

And Ukrainian jets have garbage radars which haven’t seen the newer radar upgrades that Russian jets have.


TLDR: You can’t just slap weapon systems on jets with shit radars and avionics, at least not without suffering some performance drawbacks.

Taking you absolute genius logic into account, Aim-9 sidewinder is the worlds best missile because it has the most confirmed air to air kills.

I didn't say Meteor should be fired from Motorcycle. Obviously modifications need to be done.

Tell me what is Gripen's radar range?? I'm telling you, your knowledge perfectly matching UN Generals.
 
I didn't say Meteor should be fired from Motorcycle. Obviously modifications need to be done.

Tell me what is Gripen's radar range?? I'm telling you, your knowledge perfectly matching UN Generals.
What the hell does gripen have to do with Ukraine? Ukraine doesn’t field it.

And yes gripen does use meteor
 
What the hell does gripen have to do with Ukraine? Ukraine doesn’t field it.

And yes gripen does use meteor

It has to do with your claim that Meteor need radar which have more range than meteor.

So basically Meteor can be field on F-16. But why don't West want to destroy whole RuAF with meteor wonderwaffe?
 
It has to do with your claim that Meteor need radar which have more range than meteor.

So basically Meteor can be field on F-16. But why don't West want to destroy whole RuAF with meteor wonderwaffe?
Because
1)even modern f16s has never been integrated to use meteors cuz it’s a murican jet and
2)Ukraine is getting the older version of f16 (block15 midlife upgrade iirc)which even if it wanted to couldn’t utilize the full range of meteor because it uses the apg66 radar with max range of 150km.
So it instead is using the lesser advanced aim120c5 with like 105km range
 
Because
1)even modern f16s has never been integrated to use meteors cuz it’s a murican jet and
2)Ukraine is getting the older version of f16 (block15 midlife upgrade iirc)which even if it wanted to couldn’t utilize the full range of meteor because it uses the apg66 radar with max range of 150km.
So it instead is using the lesser advanced aim120c5 with like 105km range

1) F-35 is also murican jet but still Meteor is being integrated.

2) If range of radar is the problem then how come Meteor integrated with Gripen??

3) Why can't NATO upgrade F-16 and Mig-29 to support Meteor?? Though it doesn't need upgrade. it only need a small tweek in software codes.

Integration is not a big issue as you are portraying. It has more of political and marketing reason ( to augment sell of western fighters)

But anyways, still Meteor is not useful against Russia atleast for now. It's a Wonderwaffe for Gl0b0h0m0s Liberandu-sickulars and Brown Sipoy only.
 
1) F-35 is also murican jet but still Meteor is being integrated.
Because its a jointly developed aircraft with many european countries as its partners, they integrated their weapons on it.

2) If range of radar is the problem then how come Meteor integrated with Gripen??
Because Gripen uses a really good AESA radar??? Do you know what your even talking about?

3) Why can't NATO upgrade F-16 and Mig-29 to support Meteor?? Though it doesn't need upgrade. it only need a small tweek in software codes.

Integration is not a big issue as you are portraying. It has more of political and marketing reason ( to augment sell of western fighters)
Mig29 lacks a strong enough radar and russia itself didnt upgrade their mig29s much. Also its a soviet system so integration with its avionics is challenging plus no european country in NATO uses it anymore.
F16, for modern variants there isnt a will to do it, plus a lot of european countries field more european jets.
And for Ukrainian f16s i just explained they couldnt even if they wanted to.

Integration is a HUGE issue, you cant strap any weapon on any aircraft without meeting all the sensor fusion capabilities and software integration requirements needed. If the plane has shitty avionics and radar you cannot make it use advanced weapons like meteor with their best effectiveness.

But anyways, still Meteor is not useful against Russia atleast for now
Its not useful because its not seeing any use right now. Pussy european countries dont send their jets to ukraine. (Although there is another issue with training ukrainian pilots but thats a topic for another time).
 
Because its a jointly developed aircraft with many european countries as its partners, they integrated their weapons on it.


Because Gripen uses a really good AESA radar??? Do you know what your even talking about?


Mig29 lacks a strong enough radar and russia itself didnt upgrade their mig29s much. Also its a soviet system so integration with its avionics is challenging plus no european country in NATO uses it anymore.
F16, for modern variants there isnt a will to do it, plus a lot of european countries field more european jets.
And for Ukrainian f16s i just explained they couldnt even if they wanted to.

Integration is a HUGE issue, you cant strap any weapon on any aircraft without meeting all the sensor fusion capabilities and software integration requirements needed. If the plane has shitty avionics and radar you cannot make it use advanced weapons like meteor with their best effectiveness.


Its not useful because its not seeing any use right now. Pussy european countries dont send their jets to ukraine. (Although there is another issue with training ukrainian pilots but thats a topic for another time).
Just in case you were reffering to Gripen C: Yes, It doesnt use an AESA radar.

But since 2015 it has been upgraded to use the still capable PS-05/A 4 radar, which boosts the air to air detection range of the previous radar's range of 120km-160km by 100%.

And before you ask "hOw wAS gRipEn abLE tO uSe meTEor bEfoRe?" It didnt. Because meteor itself went into service in 2016.
 
Because its a jointly developed aircraft with many european countries as its partners, they integrated their weapons on it.


Because Gripen uses a really good AESA radar??? Do you know what your even talking about?


Mig29 lacks a strong enough radar and russia itself didnt upgrade their mig29s much. Also its a soviet system so integration with its avionics is challenging plus no european country in NATO uses it anymore.
F16, for modern variants there isnt a will to do it, plus a lot of european countries field more european jets.
And for Ukrainian f16s i just explained they couldnt even if they wanted to.

Integration is a HUGE issue, you cant strap any weapon on any aircraft without meeting all the sensor fusion capabilities and software integration requirements needed. If the plane has shitty avionics and radar you cannot make it use advanced weapons like meteor with their best effectiveness.


Its not useful because its not seeing any use right now. Pussy european countries dont send their jets to ukraine. (Although there is another issue with training ukrainian pilots but thats a topic for another time).

Just in case you were reffering to Gripen C: Yes, It doesnt use an AESA radar.

But since 2015 it has been upgraded to use the still capable PS-05/A 4 radar, which boosts the air to air detection range of the previous radar's range of 120km-160km by 100%.

And before you ask "hOw wAS gRipEn abLE tO uSe meTEor bEfoRe?" It didnt. Because meteor itself went into service in 2016.

Gl0b0h0m0s only known word Soviet era or soviet system, according to them there are two type of physics 1) American physics 2) Soviet physics. They quite different in nature and behaviour.

So basically radar range is not an issue suddenly. But other avionics are the issue then please tell us what are those avionics are apart from Radar and software ?

How can you claim European a pussy? Maybe they know their wonderwaffe’s real capabilities than gl0b0h0m0s.

I think you had enough defending wonderwaffe. Maybe it’s work for gl0b0h0m0s but not in real life.
 

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