Russian Ukrainian War

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Russia Notified US About 'Oreshnik' Missile Launch Against Ukraine: Official

Russia notified the United States about its ballistic missile strike on Ukraine, an official told Semafor. The source further added that Washington briefed Kyiv and other allies of its plan to launch an experimental medium-range ballistic missile 'to help them prepare'. This comes as President...

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Rooskies say the missile that was launched was a totally new, experimental type called Oreshnik and carried a MIRV payload

 

[Akim]

And how came Ukraine automatically assumed and came to conclusion that by some god given default that Ukraine has the coming ownership ON those items!

That sense of entitlement is astonishing, like that brat kid in hood who claims every shiny thing in hood is under his kingdom and hand!
Fact is, if US does not, in time Europe will slowly backtrack from supplying Ukraine those freebees... Atleast History repeatedly shown us that. Basically Ukraine is fighting on US and then NATO's mercy contributing the human factor only, whether 1 accepts or deny that.. but it remains true.

This is not a question of values - it is a question of security. Europe does not want to have such a neighbor next to it and it will be cheaper for it to invest in our defense than in its own defense.
They are modernizing their armies evolutionarily. I have already expressed comments here about the self-propelled guns. Too slowly. That is why I showed the reserves of old European armored vehicles. They are relevant to us in the near future and in large quantities, and not in 7-8 months and in small batches like ASCOD, CV-90 and Lynx.
Here @WW2historian laughed about 31 Abrams, but the US gave us 1.5 thousand light armored vehicles and thousands of HMMWVs - this is much more important. We are only now starting serial production of the Zubr tactical vehicle (a licensed copy of the Spanish Uro VAMTAC)

I have already spoken about the Leo-1. Only the chassis and possibly the engine on some tanks will remain there. Therefore, it is absolutely unimportant what the number after "A" will be.
Trump "does not put a spoke in the wheel of the bicycle" about this war. He is against paying for it. The US has always had a strong isolationist position and for Trump, money is more important than moral values. He will sell us this weapon, but he will not hand it over just like that. The question will be whether we will need it. I believe that AD missiles and some missiles/rockets for HIMARS - we are addicted to them like drug addicts, but light armored vehicles and artillery will not be priorities in American purchases.

 

[Akim]

We are only now starting serial production of the Zubr tactical vehicle (a licensed copy of the Spanish Uro VAMTAC)
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[Boiled_AnDa]

@Akim
Even I somehow support your struggle of survival against a much stronger opponent.
though, would keep saying that, you are being played for a cold war V.2.0
Russia won't give up until they meet their goal or perish, atleast history has documented that time S after time. Till day we daily see videos that russians shooting as mercy killing their comrades asking for it when they get incapacitated, which shows their mindset still same as 1/2 nd WW, nothing changed.
While you won't either too( you got that Russian blood too..). So, the battle of attorcity will go on till ONE side go thin getting able body s for frontline trench first, and will perish once and for all.

Lets see who starts 100% forced mobilization first, that will indicate the fall.

You will get all sort of armor and vehicles as always, but the drivers?

 

[WW2historian]

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For everyone of those produced, Russia makes a thousand FPV drones. And it takes only 1 or 2 drones to destroy them.