Russian Ukrainian War

[Yuyutsu]

geez this thread is more heated now than russia-ukraine war

 

[craigs]

Of course it does. The larger the size of the electronics, the smaller the useful volume. The Soviet electronic reconnaissance device PSNR-5 weighs 45 kg, its modern analogue weighs only 15 kg and sees 2 times better. This is true for everything, so Putler's words about Yuzhmash are another lie.

You are effing nuts. Smaller electronics does not mean it is necessarily better. The electronics will be smaller but will need more cooling, emp protection etc. which is not shown. Anyway it does not matter for huge warheads.

If Putin's words are a lie then prove it by asking your overlords to allow Journalists and Videographers in the complex.

Also, how do you know the source of those electronics. It could be from the missiles that were already there in Yuzhmash. Probably there are lot of old soviet missile still in storage there.

 

[Akim]

They were not ATACMS, not until it is confirmed by the retards in Wash DC.

View: https://x.com/byjepstein/status/1861103052507226512

 

[craigs]

View: https://x.com/byjepstein/status/1861103052507226512

Ok, so thats that. There is confirmation. Lets see what happens next. Either way Ukraine is fuckkkkked.

 

[Akim]

Ok, so thats that. There is confirmation. Lets see what happens next. Either way Ukraine is fuckkkkked.

I've been hearing this for almost three years now and there has been no collapse yet.

 

[Vishnugupt]

I've been hearing this for almost three years now and there has been no collapse yet.

Being f#cked is a process Akim. Not a final result.

Ukrainian infrastructure, economy, demography, has been wiped out from last three years. Infrastructure is a biggest component in any GDP.

You have to live next 50 years on loans and credits like Pakistan.

Now you will give illogical example of Germany became super economy post war. But that time Germany has no competitors, most of world was consumer of the West.

Nowadays even your masters are growing with Snell pace imagine their canon fodder's growth would be.

 

[Lonewarrior]

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/s/puJ9WIWyk7

 

[WW2historian]

I've been hearing this for almost three years now and there has been no collapse yet.

Yeah, that is true. A lot of people overestimated Russian capabilities and underestimated the Ukrainians at the start of this. It's taking a lot more time than expect by a lot of people, but the collapse is inevitable. If things stay the way they are now (no NATO troops on the ground) and weapons shipments continuing, this could last 2 to 5 more years. By then we will find out just how many Ukrainians were really willing to fight to the last. Piers Morgan is just one of countless people who thinks they know all Ukrainians want to fight to the last because he's been to Kyiv and all of Zelensky's shills told him that.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnZxZWMkQGU

 

[WW2historian]

Yeah, that is true. A lot of people overestimated Russian capabilities and underestimated the Ukrainians at the start of this. It's taking a lot more time than expect by a lot of people, but the collapse is inevitable. If things stay the way they are now (no NATO troops on the ground) and weapons shipments continuing, this could last 2 to 5 more years. By then we will find out just how many Ukrainians were really willing to fight to the last. Piers Morgan is just one of countless people who thinks they know all Ukrainians want to fight to the last because he's been to Kyiv and all of Zelensky's shills told him that.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnZxZWMkQGU

What the west doesn't get, including Pro. John Mearsheimer is that Putin might be the one willing to fight to the last to guarantee a total victory and long term security. I know I've said for years that taking Odessa will achieve those goals. Taking Odessa won't be an easy feat. That's going to be the next chapter. It's also been reported that Odessa is a red line for the west. France said it would put troops on the ground if Odessa is threatened. I also think Trump talks out his ass, he said he would build a wall and Mexico would pay for it. That didn't happen, and neither will his bullshit about him ending this thing in 24 hours. We are getting to a very interesting point in this war. I could be wrong about Odessa, but I don't see how not taking it will achieve Putin's stated goals which include.

"to defend the Russian-controlled territories in eastern Ukraine—the Donetsk People's Republic and Luhansk People's Republic—under Article 51 of the United Nations Charter. Russian elements in the separatist regions had been at war with Ukraine since 2014, and Russia had recently become the first state to recognize them as independent. Putin claimed that Ukraine had been committing genocide against Russian speakers in the region; that Ukraine's government were neo-Nazis under Western control; that Ukraine was developing nuclear weapons; and that NATO was building up military infrastructure in Ukraine, threatening Russia. "Russia was acting in self-defense, that its goal was the "demilitarization and denazification" of Ukraine.

 

[Akim]

Being f#cked is a process Akim. Not a final result.

Ukrainian infrastructure, economy, demography, has been wiped out from last three years. Infrastructure is a biggest component in any GDP.

You have to live next 50 years on loans and credits like Pakistan.

Now you will give illogical example of Germany became super economy post war. But that time Germany has no competitors, most of world was consumer of the West.

Nowadays even your masters are growing with Snell pace imagine their canon fodder's growth would be.

You've been here for a long time and I've said it several times: Don't format our situation in your comparison with Pakistan. In this part of the world, no one has been measuring "who pees higher on the wall" for a long time. North Korea has various BMs and the M2020 tank, which looks better than the T-90M. But it exchanges its soldiers for rice supplies.

Post-war Germany had a higher production culture than the USSR, although the GDR rulers tried to lower it to please their Moscow bosses. All the same, IFA W50 trucks were valued higher at Soviet motor transport companies than ZIL-130 or even MAZ-500.

 

[Akim]

Yeah, that is true. A lot of people overestimated Russian capabilities and underestimated the Ukrainians at the start of this. It's taking a lot more time than expect by a lot of people, but the collapse is inevitable. If things stay the way they are now (no NATO troops on the ground) and weapons shipments continuing, this could last 2 to 5 more years. By then we will find out just how many Ukrainians were really willing to fight to the last. Piers Morgan is just one of countless people who thinks they know all Ukrainians want to fight to the last because he's been to Kyiv and all of Zelensky's shills told him that.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnZxZWMkQGU

Meanwhile, the dollar is already worth 105 rubles.

 

[Soldier35]

An episode of the Russian BMD-4M airborne combat vehicle in Ukraine, long-range fire. The combat work of the BMD-4M is practically not shown, the video was filmed in the Zaporizhia direction. The BMD-4M is shelling Ukrainian strongholds located in forest belts. Fire is conducted from a 100-mm 2A70 gun and a 30-mm 2A72 automatic gun at a long distance. It is worth noting that the BMD-4M has no protection against drones, which is quite risky these days. The BMD-4M crew is three people. The video is shortened.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCWr96j897o

 

[Lonewarrior]

Russian video in support of SMO

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/s/8VePpMLvQk

 

[WW2historian]

Meanwhile, the dollar is already worth 105 rubles.

So fucking what. The Japanese Yen has also lost value to the US dollar.
Currently 1 US dollar is worth 154 Japanese Yen. In 2011 one US dollar was worth 77 Yen.

 

[Akim]

So fucking what. The Japanese Yen has also lost value to the US dollar.
Currently 1 US dollar is worth 154 Japanese Yen. In 2011 one US dollar was worth 77 Yen.

What is the interest rate in Japan?
I very much doubt that the Russian economy will survive another 2 years of war.

 

[WW2historian]

What is the interest rate in Japan?
I very much doubt that the Russian economy will survive another 2 years of war.

The effect of Russia's interest rate of 21% will be borrowing for new business like a restaurant or some other non essential company won't happen. So what? It doesn't mean shit. Mortgage rates being high in Russia simply means people are not going to sell their house. The good part is that high interest rates will bring down inflation. The reason for all of this should scare you, because it means they are producing massive amounts of weapons instead of competing with the current fast food restaurants. BTW how's Ukraine's economy? We have to pay your salaries and pensions, but Trump will stop that. You should worry about that also. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/BRIE/2024/747858/IPOL_BRI(2024)747858_EN.pdf

 

[Akim]

The effect of Russia's interest rate of 21% will be borrowing for new business like a restaurant or some other non essential company won't happen. So what? It doesn't mean shit. Mortgage rates being high in Russia simply means people are not going to sell their house. The good part is that high interest rates will bring down inflation. The reason for all of this should scare you, because it means they are producing massive amounts of weapons instead of competing with the current fast food restaurants. BTW how's Ukraine's economy? We have to pay your salaries and pensions, but Trump will stop that. You should worry about that also. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/BRIE/2024/747858/IPOL_BRI(2024)747858_EN.pdf

I already said: The Ukrainian economy is in bad shape. It has been on subsidies for a long time.
But if you think that the "first violin" in the subsidized orchestra is the US, you are wrong. Not even the second.
The world has money, but few weapons. So the money from the US is arms orders in the US itself.
But you did not answer the question.
I only once bought a new car through a bank using a loan. I cursed that day. Almost two cars in 5 years. That's 15% per annum. Who is ready to pay 23-25% (after all, commercial banks have to earn something too).

 

[craigs]

I've been hearing this for almost three years now and there has been no collapse yet.

Where is the Ukrainian youth? Mobilization is going to start drafting 18yr olds soon. One way or other it is fuckkkkked.

Its land is already sold to western companies. Resources are with Russians.