Russian Ukrainian War

randombully said:
Most likely political asylum.
If a new administration did come to power, what are the chances they will be pro russian?
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Nil. They need the gravy train.
 
Yesterday was the day of "money news". Scholz came and brought a "weapons package" for 650 million, and in the evening Biden allocated a package for 750 million. In this package, anti-personnel mines were on the list. I compared the data on how much the Russians lost in the fall alone. 130 thousand killed and wounded. This was before the АP mines.
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The first footage of the use of the Russian Gibka-S air defense system in Ukraine. For a long time, there was no information about the Gibka-S air defense system. The video shows an interview with an air defense crew and the interception of a Ukrainian heavy agricultural drone of the Baba Yaga type, which is used for military purposes, including by the Russian army.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9D43UQaLSw

The second video contains technical information on the Russian air defense system "Gibka-S".


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L42p4rmnH2E
 
Akim said:
Yesterday was the day of "money news". Scholz came and brought a "weapons package" for 650 million, and in the evening Biden allocated a package for 750 million. In this package, anti-personnel mines were on the list. I compared the data on how much the Russians lost in the fall alone. 130 thousand killed and wounded. This was before the АP mines.
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These incredible, remarkable exaggerations of Russian losses is the main focus of all western propaganda. It also makes Akim and the rest of Ukraine's Nazis feel great because their hatred is all they have left. I've stated many times why Ukrainian losses are much higher than Ukraines. I'll give one more reason, and that is because Russia created countless cauldrons. These are kill zones for supplies and troops moving in and out of these narrow routs. Russia has complete fire control of these, and Ukraine won't retreat until they've lost thousands in these kill zones. Did Russia ever allow this to happen to them even once? On the contrary, they have retreated before they will allow that to happen.
 
WW2historian said:
These incredible, remarkable exaggerations of Russian losses is the main focus of all western propaganda. It also makes Akim and the rest of Ukraine's Nazis feel great because their hatred is all they have left. I've stated many times why Ukrainian losses are much higher than Ukraines. I'll give one more reason, and that is because Russia created countless cauldrons. These are kill zones for supplies and troops moving in and out of these narrow routs. Russia has complete fire control of these, and Ukraine won't retreat until they've lost thousands in these kill zones. Did Russia ever allow this to happen to them even once? On the contrary, they have retreated before they will allow that to happen.
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If you times these pictures by at least a hundred, you begin to understand why Ukraine has lost close to a million soldiers killed and wounded. They almost look like the same picture, but one is Avdiivka, and the other is southwest of Donetsk. Not only that, but Ukraine created another cauldron in their Kursk offensive. How fucking dumb can you get?1733234631051.webp
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WW2historian said:
These incredible, remarkable exaggerations of Russian losses is the main focus of all western propaganda. It also makes Akim and the rest of Ukraine's Nazis feel great because their hatred is all they have left. I've stated many times why Ukrainian losses are much higher than Ukraines. I'll give one more reason, and that is because Russia created countless cauldrons. These are kill zones for supplies and troops moving in and out of these narrow routs. Russia has complete fire control of these, and Ukraine won't retreat until they've lost thousands in these kill zones. Did Russia ever allow this to happen to them even once? On the contrary, they have retreated before they will allow that to happen.
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Where do you stand on the food chain: are you a shark of capitalist or a hermit crab? I think the Wall Street Journal journalists are above you in the food chain.
Ukraine's military losses far below 80,000 claimed by US media, Zelenskyy
 
Akim said:
Yesterday was the day of "money news". Scholz came and brought a "weapons package" for 650 million, and in the evening Biden allocated a package for 750 million. In this package, anti-personnel mines were on the list. I compared the data on how much the Russians lost in the fall alone. 130 thousand killed and wounded. This was before the АP mines.
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"Anit-personnel mines". Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...... another wunderwaffen. Hehehehehehehehehe... as if Russians don't have them and don't know how it works.

Meanwhile according to mediazona (which is also inflated) the Russians casualties are way less than these numbers: https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng.


Is Ukraine not a signatory to the AP Mines ban convention? So here is another example of the perfidious and cheating nature of the racial supremacists in Kiev
 
Akim said:
Where do you stand on the food chain: are you a shark of capitalist or a hermit crab? I think the Wall Street Journal journalists are above you in the food chain.
Ukraine's military losses far below 80,000 claimed by US media, Zelenskyy
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No, they are much lower than 80,000 according to Zelensky. Don't you read your own links?? Akim, you are good for a laugh. Zelenksy and the rest of you Ukraine's math skill suck. Even Zelenksy said Ukrainians killed was a hundred to two hundred a day. Lets say it's 150, well the war started a 1000 days ago, so 150 times 1000 equals 150,000 killed. Akim go back to 4th grade and learn some basic math. You are making a complete fool out of yourself, but that's nothing new.
"At the height of the fighting in May and June 2022, according to president Zelenskyy and presidential advisor Mykhailo Podolyak, between 100 and 200 Ukrainian soldiers were being killed in combat daily, while presidential adviser Oleksiy Arestovych said 150 soldiers were being killed and 800 wounded daily."

Casualties of the Russo-Ukrainian War - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
"Author: Viktor Nazarenko
US media inform that Ukraine has lost 80,000 soldiers on the front lines. However, this information is not accurate. The number of fallen Ukrainian defenders is lower, President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy reports in an interview with Kyodo News.
"Recently, someone in the US press reported that 80,000 Ukrainians have been killed. But I want to tell you, no, the number is lower. Much lower," Zelenskyy said.

At the same time, the President of Ukraine noted that it is currently impossible to determine exactly how many Ukrainians have been killed in temporarily occupied territories.
 
craigs said:
"Anit-personnel mines". Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...... another wunderwaffen. Hehehehehehehehehe... as if Russians don't have them and don't know how it works.

Meanwhile according to mediazona (which is also inflated) the Russians casualties are way less than these numbers: https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng.


Is Ukraine not a signatory to the AP Mines ban convention? So here is another example of the perfidious and cheating nature of the racial supremacists in Kiev
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Now such events have started to swirl in the world that none of this works.
 
As from our, as 3rd party stand, we find it regular from telegram/ neutral media/ tiKKtok videos that guys gets chased, caught, shoved forcefully in vans for forced enlistment at least from ukrainian side that too enmass. Which is yet to come /witnessed from russian side...

1 can expect anything but loyalty and moral to defend from such person at the farthest level at the battleground......

Ukraine can deny that, but the truth remains truth.. out of about 38 million supposed population, we have about 7 million supposedly fled the country mostly as refugee that too mainly females.
www.aljazeera.com

Russian invasion sends Ukraine population plummeting by 10 million: UN

Exodus of refugees, collapsing fertility and war deaths, reportedly depleted Ukrainian numbers by about 25 percent.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com

So, question remains, that how many able bodied fighting age MALEs remained, that too willing to enlist? Seeing the still 1/3 part empty recruitment drive for volunteers, be it the polish drive or the german/french try, it's evident that Ukraine is facing a tough time getting fresh recruits.

Did not some US heavyweight official mistakenly reveal that about 600k Ukrainians either MIA or KIA or disabled for 2nd time deployment some days ago? ( had it discussed in this forum too, with source link. That time)

If Ukraine is not facing a shortage of able bodied men, why US is suggesting to lower the conscription age to18 to fill up the men wagon then ?

Keeping aside the desertion aspect altogether as a tabooed part here... hereinafter though.

Be it WSJ or NYT or any other MSMNBCs , it's a open secret that how US state controls the narrative and public swing though such media outlets direct or indirectly.. So, I would take the news from such source with a pinch of salt ( same with AlJ though too).
 
WW2historian said:
No, they are much lower than 80,000 according to Zelensky. Don't you read your own links?? Akim, you are good for a laugh. Zelenksy and the rest of you Ukraine's math skill suck. Even Zelenksy said Ukrainians killed was a hundred to two hundred a day. Lets say it's 150, well the war started a 1000 days ago, so 150 times 1000 equals 150,000 killed. Akim go back to 4th grade and learn some basic math. You are making a complete fool out of yourself, but that's nothing new.
"At the height of the fighting in May and June 2022, according to president Zelenskyy and presidential advisor Mykhailo Podolyak, between 100 and 200 Ukrainian soldiers were being killed in combat daily, while presidential adviser Oleksiy Arestovych said 150 soldiers were being killed and 800 wounded daily."

Casualties of the Russo-Ukrainian War - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
"Author: Viktor Nazarenko
US media inform that Ukraine has lost 80,000 soldiers on the front lines. However, this information is not accurate. The number of fallen Ukrainian defenders is lower, President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy reports in an interview with Kyodo News.
"Recently, someone in the US press reported that 80,000 Ukrainians have been killed. But I want to tell you, no, the number is lower. Much lower," Zelenskyy said.

At the same time, the President of Ukraine noted that it is currently impossible to determine exactly how many Ukrainians have been killed in temporarily occupied territories.
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I don't take on Zelensky's words, because you don't believe them. Combat operations come in different intensities. At that moment, we had not only a shortage of shells, but even a shortage of artillery itself. The Russians didn't have a shortage yet and they were shooting 24/7. A year later, Prigozhin organized a "march on Moscow" due to a shortage of shells. And then Iranian and North Korean shells appeared.
So throw the sheet of calculations in the toilet.
 
Akim said:
I don't rely on Zelensky's words, because you don't believe them. Combat operations come in different intensities. At that moment, we had not only a shortage of shells, but even a shortage of artillery itself. The Russians didn't have a shortage yet and they were shooting 24/7. A year later, Prigozhin organized a "march on Moscow" due to a shortage of shells. And then Iranian and North Korean shells appeared.
So throw the sheet of calculations in the toilet.
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If the US really believed that Ukraine lost only 80k, they would not be pressing them to lower the draft age to 18.
apnews.com

White House pressing Ukraine to draft 18-year-olds so it has enough troops to battle Russia

The aim is to expand the pool of fighting-age men available to help a badly outnumbered Ukraine in its nearly three-year-old war with Russia.
apnews.com apnews.com
 
WW2historian said:
If the US really believed that Ukraine lost only 80k, they would not be pressing them to lower the draft age to 18.
apnews.com

White House pressing Ukraine to draft 18-year-olds so it has enough troops to battle Russia

The aim is to expand the pool of fighting-age men available to help a badly outnumbered Ukraine in its nearly three-year-old war with Russia.
apnews.com apnews.com
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Ukraine is already impressing men at least over the age of 16 judging by the release of videos showing Ukrainian MPs arresting anyone over the age of 16 or so.
 
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