Russian Ukrainian War

[Blademaster]

Your totals add up to 53 aircraft. Wikipedia show 2024 losses totaling only 24. They show only 1 damaged SU-57 and only 8 SU-34 not 18, and only 2 SU-25 instead of 16
2 MiG-31, 1 Su-57, 1 Su-30, 2 Su-35, 3 Su-27, 2 Su-25, 8 Su-34, 1 Su-24, 1 Tu-22M, 2 A-50, 1 Il-22, 1 Il-76, 1 Be-200, 1 unidentified.
Sorry, but I'll believe wikipedia's numbers instead of what Zelensky says. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_losses_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

US lost more planes in the Gulf War 1 and in Gulf War 2 separately.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

US lost more planes in the Gulf War 1 and in Gulf War 2 separately.

Yes, people forget this aspect of the Gulf War.

Another way to look at the first gulf war (something i lived through as a youngster right from the periphery in 'safer Sheikdoms'): That Iraq despite being in a HOPELESS situation, took on Unkil and his ENTIRE grand coalition, who put out nearly 2000 planes against Iraq, outnumbering them nearly 3:1, shot out the same number of planes as India did against Pakistan in her crushing victory in 1971.

And most of these losses came during operation desert storm phase. This *IS* a good showing by all metrics given the disparity, given that Iraq's combat aicrafts were ALSO outnumbered effectively 5:1, because the vast majority of the coalition aircradts were combat (air superiority & strike fighter) aircraft, while half of Iraq's air assets were combat aicrafts, numbering around 400, of which more than 1/4th fled to Iran ( Iraq donated like 120 or so fighter planes to Iran- they ran the fuck away).

So with such minimal air cover, that too by an air force that didnt really exist ( you dont really exist when you are outnumbered 5:1 and you are entire generation or two behind in the non stealth aircrafts) - the heavy lifting was most likely done by AD.
Which...is a decent showing because iraq's AD coverage and depth was nowhere comparable to Ukraine either.

 

[Akim]

Your totals add up to 53 aircraft. Wikipedia show 2024 losses totaling only 24. They show only 1 damaged SU-57 and only 8 SU-34 not 18, and only 2 SU-25 instead of 16
2 MiG-31, 1 Su-57, 1 Su-30, 2 Su-35, 3 Su-27, 2 Su-25, 8 Su-34, 1 Su-24, 1 Tu-22M, 2 A-50, 1 Il-22, 1 Il-76, 1 Be-200, 1 unidentified.
Sorry, but I'll believe wikipedia's numbers instead of what Zelensky says. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_losses_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

I already said that I don't care what truth you believe? You can even believe the figures of the Russian Ministry of Defense about 90% of those who returned after being wounded (in the artillery war). Then suddenly you learn that Russia is fighting with meat. There is not enough of its own meat and they started buying North Korean.

An appeal to North Korean soldiers to surrender and live in South Korea.