Russian Ukrainian War

spikey360 said:
The worst mistake Putin made is keeping Zelensky alive.
It is one thing to keep a war-fighting President alive, it is quite another to keep a cocaine snorting joker alive.

Zelensky would eventually meet his fate the same way Prigozhin met his fate.
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No the worst mistake he made was not taking Kiev and withdrawing Russian forces from the siege of Kiev.
 
spikey360 said:
The worst mistake Putin made is keeping Zelensky alive.
It is one thing to keep a war-fighting President alive, it is quite another to keep a cocaine snorting joker alive.

Zelensky would eventually meet his fate the same way Prigozhin met his fate.
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Nope his fate will be like Saddam or Noriega. May also end up like Hitler.
 
Blademaster said:
No the worst mistake he made was not taking Kiev and withdrawing Russian forces from the siege of Kiev.
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That's true, that is the root cause of the failure to decapitate Ukrainian leadership.
What America is doing today, i.e., ceasing CIA intelligence sharing, had it done back then - Kiev battle would be over in few weeks.
Hostomel debacle was the first turning point for Ukraine.
 
craigs said:
Nope his fate will be like Saddam or Noriega. May also end up like Hitler.
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But the most just result would be if he ends up like Gaddafi.
 
WW2historian said:
Your posts are so stupid. If you look at what Zelensky said about what happened you would know that video should end with him kissing Trump's ass.

"We do really value how much America has done to help Ukraine maintain its sovereignty and independence. And we remember the moment when things changed when President Trump provided Ukraine with Javelins. We are grateful for this.Our meeting in Washington, at the White House on Friday, did not go the way it was supposed to be. It is regrettable that it happened this way. It is time to make things right. We would like future cooperation and communication to be constructive."
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This is not a stupid video, this is a funny video. Ukrainian soldiers who watched this meeting said: "- a little more and Trump will start sending Lend-Lease to Russia" - it was so obvious that he supported Putler.
This text that you quoted does not look like an apology. These are the words of a driver who got into an roadcrash and regrets it. But this does not mean that he is to blame for this accident.
But this was enough for Trump. This does not mean that he will help Ukraine, but he will sell weapons. As I already said, we can replace the anti-aircraft missiles for the Hawk with missiles for the MiG-23, but anti-aircraft missiles for the Patriot, in the short term - no. We have 5 Patriot systems and only two SAMP-T. There is also a Ukrainian analogue. Only these systems are capable of shooting down ballistics/aeroballistics. So it is necessary to produce them in time.
There will be money. Norway opens its sovereign wealth fund and gives $80 billion in credit from there. Because of the past militarization of Europe, everyone once decided that the bulk of weapons would be produced in the United States. But now this can be revised. How many kilotons did the Americans and British drop monthly to stop German industry? However, tanks were still produced until April 1945.
 
Akim said:
This is not a stupid video, this is a funny video. Ukrainian soldiers who watched this meeting said: "- a little more and Trump will start sending Lend-Lease to Russia" - it was so obvious that he supported Putler.
This text that you quoted does not look like an apology. These are the words of a driver who got into an roadcrash and regrets it. But this does not mean that he is to blame for this accident.
But this was enough for Trump. This does not mean that he will help Ukraine, but he will sell weapons. As I already said, we can replace the anti-aircraft missiles for the Hawk with missiles for the MiG-23, but anti-aircraft missiles for the Patriot, in the short term - no. We have 5 Patriot systems and only two SAMP-T. There is also a Ukrainian analogue. Only these systems are capable of shooting down ballistics/aeroballistics. So it is necessary to produce them in time.
There will be money. Norway opens its sovereign wealth fund and gives $80 billion in credit from there. Because of the past militarization of Europe, everyone once decided that the bulk of weapons would be produced in the United States. But now this can be revised. How many kilotons did the Americans and British drop monthly to stop German industry? However, tanks were still produced until April 1945.
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We all have our brand of humor. I didn't think it was funny, but I see it being funny by Trump haters. My brand of humor is this video which you don't think is funny because you don't like seeing your Azov Nazi brother's being embarrassed. Please remind all you Azov buddies shave next time. I'll repost it.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_debjVx5k6I&t=2s
(Oh shit Akim come to think of it you're correct. The Azov's did leave Mariupol, only a few got captured. The rest fooled the stupid Russians when they dressed up as women. You see the Russians aren't used to drag queens like the US is. That's why they could not see through their disguise. It looks like their intolerance towards the LBGQ community backfired in their faces. This idiot got caught because he forgot to shave.)
 
WW2historian said:
We all have our brand of humor. I didn't think it was funny, but I see it being funny by Trump haters. My brand of humor is this video which you don't think is funny because you don't like seeing your Azov Nazi brother's being embarrassed. Please remind all you Azov buddies shave next time. I'll repost it.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_debjVx5k6I&t=2s
(Oh shit Akim come to think of it you're correct. The Azov's did leave Mariupol, only a few got captured. The rest fooled the stupid Russians when they dressed up as women. You see the Russians aren't used to drag queens like the US is. That's why they could not see through their disguise. It looks like their intolerance towards the LBGQ community backfired in their faces. This idiot got caught because he forgot to shave.)
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I never said that I like Trump and I won’t even argue with you about this video, even if your vice president appeals not to intelligence data, but to what he saw in stories.
 
Boiled_AnDa said:
@Akim
at least now your country can employ some more soldiers to defend the motherland.
No pun intended.
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If Europe follows Trump, you will have millions more to defend the motherland. BTW it's interesting that both Ukraine and Russia call it the motherland. Do you ever wonder if the west set you up? They made you enemies and you are doing their dirty work for them. At least Russia is united, Ukraine on the other hand was never united and never will be until a total Russian victory. They might just deport Ukrainians to the rest of Europe. Not doing that was Stalin's biggest mistake. Many lives could have been saved.
 
average indian said:
Hey Akim what is your take on the overseas Ukrainian citizens who ran way instead of defending their Country . Zelensky can just request them back to fight for Ukraine
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No way. Running away from war is a personal decision. I didn't run away, but I have relatives who did. I assure you, it was a forced decision. A foreign culture, a foreign language, a foreign way of life. Not your own home. I don't like emigrants who left and now teach others that they did the right thing, but this does not apply to refugees.
On the issue of shortage of people: We don't have enough weapons, but not soldiers. At the beginning of the war, Kalashnikovs were given to everyone who wanted them to protect their families. They didn't even ask about their health. Passport details and get an assault rifle and hand grenades. Because the enemy was at the gates. Now, with my disability, I can only get a job in the rear, but here we have full strength. At the front, the complement is 60-70%, because now it's not WW1 and no one fights with only personal weapons. Something heavier is needed.
 
CCPiya mouthpiece crying hue over their European "friends" being neglected, the same friends whose market they are flooding with cheap Chinese junk products & EV death coffins which they call cars, cannibalising the EU car industry.

The below article felt like Chinkus shooting from EU's shoulder, because they themselves felt neglected & wished to be seen as peace negotiator and solidify their position among EU by jumping on current anti-Trump bandwagon (due to tarrif which Trump wants to impose on them).

amp.scmp.com

US and Russia alone should not dictate peace in Ukraine: China’s EU ambassador

In comments on the CPPCC sidelines, the diplomat reiterated that Ukrainian peace cannot be determined only by US and Russia.
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IMO Chinkus are paranoid that Rossiya may distance itself from them if Trump administration give them some favourable deal & US wants either Russia or some asian country to play the same role what turncoat Chinkus played post that infamous Kissinger's trip to Chinkustan or Russia atleast be neutral in case of CCP expedition to Taiwan ( possibly dragging Murica & the Asian vassals)
 
Akim said:
No way. Running away from war is a personal decision. I didn't run away, but I have relatives who did. I assure you, it was a forced decision. A foreign culture, a foreign language, a foreign way of life. Not your own home. I don't like emigrants who left and now teach others that they did the right thing, but this does not apply to refugees.
On the issue of shortage of people: We don't have enough weapons, but not soldiers. At the beginning of the war, Kalashnikovs were given to everyone who wanted them to protect their families. They didn't even ask about their health. Passport details and get an assault rifle and hand grenades. Because the enemy was at the gates. Now, with my disability, I can only get a job in the rear, but here we have full strength. At the front, the complement is 60-70%, because now it's not WW1 and no one fights with only personal weapons. Something heavier is needed.
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I'm surprised by that, because that personal decision breaks Ukrainian's law. It's a Nazi law that takes away a person's freedom to live and not die for a bunch of Ukrainian Nazis and greedy western assholes. Akim, there might be hope for you yet.
 
Blademaster said:
No the worst mistake he made was not taking Kiev and withdrawing Russian forces from the siege of Kiev.
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They could have taken Kiev if they had todays number of troops in Ukraine (which is about 700,000) but they instead only had about 100 to 150k total for all of Ukraine. They needed to prepare better at the start, but they underestimated the west's commitment to Ukraine and Ukraine's will to fight.
 
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