Is it your thinking that because India took 35+ years to reach where it has with Kaveri, Turkiye must take a similar amount of time?
India even has no capability to start it's amca engine project on its own! They are looking for partners. And they think they are way ahead of Türkiye!
Every country that has developed a turbofan engine has taken 30 to 40 years to do so. Even France, with an already established turbofan engine program, took 15 years to develop the M88 engine and 23 years to fully operationalize the Rafale fighter jets.
Türkiye has all the infrastructure for the engine.
France alone cannot develop a capable fifth-generation fighter jet. They need India for collaboration and funding, France will not be able to finance the entire project independently.
India has established dedicated research institutes to train skilled manpower for engine manufacturing. This same workforce will contribute to the development of the upcoming 110 kN engine. Such complex projects take decades, testing and certification of an engine alone requires 10–15 years.
That work force is already retired!! Get real!
I don't believe that France needs Indian collaboration. What are the areas in which Indian technology is ahead of French technology whereby France requires Indian technology input?
That workforce is retired but the research institute is established to train manpower, it continuously produces skilled professionals, and the quality of that manpower keeps improving over time. building such an institute itself takes decades.
They need funds
Almost for 10 years,Kaveri project funding stopped so no new engineers!!
Funding for the Kaveri engine project may have been stopped, but research and development efforts have continued. While the Indian government can halt funding for a specific project, it is neither possible nor practical to stop funding research and development as a whole. For instance, funding for the HF-24 Marut was discontinued, but that did not mean funding was withdrawn from institutions such as the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA), Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE), Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), Steel Authority of India Limited (SAIL), or the numerous other organizations involved in aircraft development.
Yo Mehmet ! Go to the Wiki page on GTRE & get educated on what that organization stands for its aims & the projects it handles. Kaveri is but one of them.
Does not matter, as long as funding goes, you may just keep few management level people in those institutes. Since that institutes also do not make money by serially producing any product. So keeping that institutes as functioning without funding is almost impossible. Hence engineers leave institutes if there is no fund! Your drdo guys were saying same things, even they are not able to find engineers to work there
All projects need funds.
India needs France primarily for engine development; everything else can be managed domestically.
No research institute in India generates profit, yet the country spends over 17 billion dollars annually on these institutes. This funding continues to increase as more research institutes—both in the public and private sectors, as well as through public-private partnerships—emerge every year.
Where engine development is concerned, AMCA is where it was 10 years ago. 10 years of talking with no result. IMO there is no reason to suspect that there will ever be a result.
