U.S China Cold War 2.0

Who will bring Mars Sample to Earth first?

DENVER — The White House is proposing steep cuts in NASA’s science program that, if implemented, would cancel several major missions, contradicting claims by the administration’s nominee to lead the agency.​


A draft of the White House’s budget proposal sent to NASA April 10 by the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) would cut about 20% from the agency’s overall spending levels but reduce spending for the agency’s science programs by nearly 50%.

The document, known as a passback, is not publicly released but is sent to agencies like NASA to allow them to make final appeals before the formal rollout of the budget proposal. Ars Technica first reported on the passback.

According to sources familiar with the details of the passback, the budget would reduce NASA’s topline, or overall, budget to about $20 billion. NASA received about $25 billion for fiscal year 2025 in a continuing resolution (CR) that kept it and other agencies at 2024 spending levels.

That CR sets funding for NASA’s Science Mission Directorate at about $7.3 billion. However, the passback would provide just $3.9 billion for the directorate in 2026, a cut of nearly 50% from 2025.

The biggest hit would be to NASA’s astrophysics division, which received about $1.5 billion in 2024 (NASA has not completed allocations to its science divisions for 2025 based on the levels in the continuing resolution) but would get less than $500 million in 2026. It would propose canceling the Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope, which had been on budget and schedule for a launch in late 2026.

Earth science would be cut by a little more than 50% to just over $1 billion, while heliophysics would see a nearly 50% cut to about $450 million.

The budget would provide $1.9 billion for planetary science, about a third less than what it received in 2024. It would, though, cancel the Mars Sample Return program, which has suffered cost and schedule overruns that led to an agency decision in January to study two alternative approaches to it. It would also cancel DAVINCI, a Venus mission selected as part of the Discovery program nearly four years ago.

Meanwhile, PRC is in full commitment to bring back Mars samples by 2030 with CCP's determination to gradually undermine US dominance in space.

There's still chance that US will win the Mars sample return race if SpaceX starship can roll back to the pad as quickly as Elon Musk expects.
 
"I don't blame China. I don't blame Vietnam. I don't. I see they're meeting today, and that's wonderful," he said

"That's a lovely meeting... like trying to figure out, how do we screw the United States of America."

 
Countries like Vietnam who've had it so good and played so smart till now should avoid getting close to China out of hurt or the sense of "betrayal", because there exists no other country in the whole world that can absorb your $100B trade surplus.

Even if Democrats come after 4 years, they will see you as anti-America and not care much about your emotional outbursts.


View: https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1912241077257703849?t=rE0LRiK2jNoKdk8PabtZ-w&s=19

Letting Comac planes fly in your airspace is nothing short of cutting your nose to spite your face. The Americans will not let this pass easily.
 
Extremely weird timing for Vietnam to be getting all chummy with much disliked neighbour China. What am i missing here? 🤔

Also, does this mean Air India will finally be getting deliveries of some of its much delayed Boeing planes?
 
Extremely weird timing for Vietnam to be getting all chummy with much disliked neighbour China. What am i missing here? 🤔

Also, does this mean Air India will finally be getting deliveries of some of its much delayed Boeing planes?

They were/are chummy, which is why their country is the #1 destination for 🪛 Chinese imports and rerouting Chinese goods as Vietnamese to juke tariffs.
 
They were/are chummy, which is why their country is the #1 destination for 🪛 Chinese imports and rerouting Chinese goods as Vietnamese to juke tariffs.

Ya, it looks like the red chums have hatched a plan together to put pressure on Dolund bhai. China scraps its plane deal with Boeing and (not suspiciously at all) Vietnam suggests it will let in Comac. Such smarty pants.. teehee. Makes you wonder whether India should be selling the Ho Chi Minhs the brahmos. 🤔
 
Time for Xi to double down further. Announce 2000% tariffs on the Burger boys, Mr Eleven. Come on. We're counting on you.


View: https://x.com/ndtv/status/1912410497971814630?t=z48FKGC9pdx9luJltlDT-Q&s=19


People seem to think China somehow has a chance in this shit warfare.
It does not.

buyer is always king.
If you don't believe it just look at why Australia played nice with India, ask yourself why almost every European country, UK and Canada want's trade deal with India.

buyer is always the king.

Thinking that China holds some mysterious cards is not even a bluff. They don't.
There is no market for China to replace US market. May be India but Xi burned that bridge and shat on the ashes.
East Asia is already saturated with Chinese products and these countries will squeeze Xi's balls since Xi has border and Ocean disputes with all these countries.
 
People seem to think China somehow has a chance in this shit warfare.
It does not.

buyer is always king.
If you don't believe it just look at why Australia played nice with India, ask yourself why almost every European country, UK and Canada want's trade deal with India.

buyer is always the king.

Thinking that China holds some mysterious cards is not even a bluff. They don't.
There is no market for China to replace US market. May be India but Xi burned that bridge and shat on the ashes.
East Asia is already saturated with Chinese products and these countries will squeeze Xi's balls since Xi has border and Ocean disputes with all these countries.
All hinges on how Trump can get the EU to back his policies on China. If he can manage that , China's screwed . But by the looks of it , seems an uphill task thanks to Trump's abrasive policies & ways.
 
All hinges on how Trump can get the EU to back his policies on China. If he can manage that , China's screwed . But by the looks of it , seems an uphill task thanks to Trump's abrasive policies & ways.

That is one equation but China has already saturated EU, UK, Aus, and Canada markets.
There is no more squeezing possible by Chinese from these nations.

USA is not only it's biggest buyer but it also the one providing it with a lot of companies to operate from.
If Trump goes after US companies operating out of China, just imagine what it would do to China.
And the last one is tech.

buyers always hold lot of cards, US is not a buyer for China, it is also it;s biggest enabler by allowing it's companies operate out of China and lastly China gets a lot of tech from US.
This is not fair war since once side has a lot more to lose.
 
That is one equation but China has already saturated EU, UK, Aus, and Canada markets.
There is no more squeezing possible by Chinese from these nations.

USA is not only it's biggest buyer but it also the one providing it with a lot of companies to operate from.
If Trump goes after US companies operating out of China, just imagine what it would do to China.
And the last one is tech.

buyers always hold lot of cards, US is not a buyer for China, it is also it;s biggest enabler by allowing it's companies operate out of China and lastly China gets a lot of tech from US.
This is not fair war since once side has a lot more to lose.


View: https://twitter.com/Akshay_VAK/status/1912308919638315121?s=19

Lot of people including in here seem to forget how the US literally confiscated Russian assets overnight in the West rendering all the holdings nil whether in the form of bonds or cash or any other instrument , also cutting off their access to the west's banking channelsp.

Of course unless China resorts to similar action in Taiwan like the Russians in Ukraine, we can safely rule out such drastic action.

However Chinese cos listed in US markets, China accessing the US Bond Market etc are all at risk. The damage to the US economy is short term. However the effects of these moves on the Chinese economy will be devastating.

IMO, Trump's exploring all such options to unsettle the Chinese economy & see the repercussions it has on the Chinese polity. It's a case of repeating what was one of the least known weapons in the public domain in the US arsenal in the Cold War against the USSR but eventually proved to be one of the most potent ones if not the most potent one - the economy.

I doubt whether the US will be two times lucky seeing two of its foes crumble without a fight nor would I want it to be so. Both the US & China must cancel each other out.
 
Extremely weird timing for Vietnam to be getting all chummy with much disliked neighbour China. What am i missing here? 🤔

Also, does this mean Air India will finally be getting deliveries of some of its much delayed Boeing planes?
Chinku interbreeding. Most of them look similar so it's not readily apparent how Chinkified their society is.
 
That is one equation but China has already saturated EU, UK, Aus, and Canada markets.
There is no more squeezing possible by Chinese from these nations.

USA is not only it's biggest buyer but it also the one providing it with a lot of companies to operate from.
If Trump goes after US companies operating out of China, just imagine what it would do to China.
And the last one is tech.

buyers always hold lot of cards, US is not a buyer for China, it is also it;s biggest enabler by allowing it's companies operate out of China and lastly China gets a lot of tech from US.
This is not fair war since once side has a lot more to lose.


Authoritarian countries will always last longer in this type of warfare. Xi can always suppress any discontent while Trump can't because burgerland media for the most part is free and his party has to stand in the midterms next year.

And Trump to be totally honest is just a fool, if he really wanted to be in a strong negotiating position - he should've allied with everyone else and put pressure on China/Vietnam et.al. Instead he imposed reciprocal tariffs on everyone and weakened his position.

Because of this unplanned mess, he has already blinked twice. There probably will be more exemptions to tariffs coming. Dude should've hashed out a plan first and then go ahead with it.
 
Extremely weird timing for Vietnam to be getting all chummy with much disliked neighbour China. What am i missing here? 🤔

Also, does this mean Air India will finally be getting deliveries of some of its much delayed Boeing planes?

Bad PR move for Viets. Most of their economy is dependent on being a chong re-labeling center for the US.
 
.And Trump to be totally honest is just a fool, if he really wanted to be in a strong negotiating position - he should've allied with everyone else and put pressure on China/Vietnam et.al. Instead he imposed reciprocal tariffs on everyone and weakened his position.

Is Dolund bhai reading this thread?


 
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