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Recession and the $6 Trillion Bloodbath on Wall Street

The financial turmoil was not anticipated by Trump’s right-wing advisors, such as Peter Navarro and Laura Loomer. Their focus was solely on bringing lost American jobs back. The tariffs were meant to generate enough revenue to kickstart factory construction and manufacturing.

However, the $6 trillion wiped from the stock market included a portion of my pension—money that has largely vanished. Regardless of my support for Trump’s efforts to reshape global trade, I don’t appreciate seeing my savings evaporate. And with a looming recession, whatever remains may soon be gone as well.

Whether Trump’s strategy will ultimately succeed is still up for debate, but for now, my money—and that of many middle-class Americans who support him—has been caught in the crossfire.
 
I'm surprised Americans haven't grown a spine and shot Musk in the face yet. This guy is hard at work in dismantling US gov defense agencies and contractors. And he forwards all contracts to his own companies. Swatting all US military launch programs wasn't enough, this guy is on his way to become the main launch provider of US military satellites. And just in case, all US DOD and White House communications go through Starlink's data centers now. And he wants all of Pentagon's traffic to be switched from land based federal gigabit hardlines to Starlink. Musk runs DOGE in all but name, and is re-directing billions of dollars of gov contracts to his companies, while blacklisting competitors. Raytheon, Boeing and Lockheed won't keep taking this shit lying down. The Deep State has lost it's depth it seems. And the rest of the cucks are ranting in Reddit instead of ponying up and neutralizing this guy before he plates the entire US defense ecosystem on a platter and gobbles it up with a side of intel networks.
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I'm surprised Americans haven't grown a spine and shot Musk in the face yet. This guy is hard at work in dismantling US gov defense agencies and contractors. And he forwards all contracts to his own companies. Swatting all US military launch programs wasn't enough, this guy is on his way to become the main launch provider of US military satellites. And just in case, all US DOD and White House communications go through Starlink's data centers now. And he wants all of Pentagon's traffic to be switched from land based federal gigabit hardlines to Starlink. Musk runs DOGE in all but name, and is re-directing billions of dollars of gov contracts to his companies, while blacklisting competitors. Raytheon, Boeing and Lockheed won't keep taking this shit lying down. The Deep State has lost it's depth it seems. And the rest of the cucks are ranting in Reddit instead of ponying up and neutralizing this guy before he plates the entire US defense ecosystem on a platter and gobbles it up with a side of intel networks.
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Because Musk isnt easy to kill.Same reason why Soros isnt easy to kill. Imagine how many tens of thousands or even millions on this planet see Soros as THE devil incarnate and would love to piss down his cut off neck. But is alive. Why ?

Because reality is this - ultra-elites have good security AND they have low digital footprint of their movements that they closely monitor.

The second part is the key. Because anyone who wants to actually kill Musk, the first thing they'd have to do, is track Musk and follow him around to determine his patterns, pick your assassination spot, etc.

Anyone who is gonna try to do this, will get a knock on their door after 2 weeks of trying to figure out Elon's daily routine and be arrested or closely followed till they commit a felony and get arrested.

And anyone who is gonna do this and be successful, meaning they have effectively pierced the digital footprint monitoring of the target without the target knowing, they are a foreign state agent to command such skill AND resources.

Ie, regular people cant actually get close enough to kill Elon or Soros unless they plan a loooooooooong time ahead for some meet and greet and shoot them in the face raegan style. Which takes a LOT of luck and planing to pull off for regular joe for a non political person, coz they dont have a fixed must-do public commitment months or years ahead of time like politicians do.

Hence why politicians are also usually the only people of the ultra-powerful class who DO occasionally get assassinated by common joe: coz common joe can plan ahead how to kill you 1 year ahead of your election campaign and shaking hands in Idaho.
You cant do this with non politician and you again have to track them, meaning follow digital footprint and get caught.

And the only people who CAN kill Elon or Soros are foreign state agents, so that is taking warfare to new dimension- you kill elon, we off Mr Birla.

And if any rival corporate entity offs Elon, like Rayethon, then the US govt will definitely use this opportunity to kill that company through litigation, coz Musk is aligned with the current govt. So no corporate entity will take that risk. Not to mention, Elon IS the worlds' richest man on paper ( i say paper, because in reality, Elon is nowhere close to being as rich as the actual rich Sheikhs of ME are) so he IS the benchmark/target to aim for for corporate vs corpoate. There aint a bigger dragon than him in this field so that takes care of corporate vs corporate.


Ultimate reality is, corporate class of plutocrats do not point guns at one another and nor do they need to, coz they dont care that much.
People forget, corporate class mentality IS ' i am head of Rayethon coz Rayethon makes $$'. Not coz i am patriot who believes in rayethon is needed. Elon sees SpaceX/Tesla as his creation, but he is NOT Enzo Ferrari, who will treat the company as his own family pet worth everything and stick through thick and thin and spend decades making losses coz well, Ferrari is company of ENZO Ferrari.

This is why people like Enzo Ferrari are so so sooooooooooooooo rare in corporate world in the west, as western corporate mentalty in 99.99999% case is 'i make money and when company goes loss-y, i cut ties and go make money elsewhere'.
There is no real super duper personal vendetta of 'how dare u outcompete my company and kill it off' in the plutocrat class, coz by that time they made their money or shifted their money elsewhere and dont care.
So at end of the day, the bigwigs of Rayethon only care so much and worst case scenario is they go make money elsewhere. But they are not going to weaponise THEIR class and billionaires dont go offing billionaires out of competitive butt-hurt.
This is why Bezoz vs Ambani is okay to run millions of dollars of legal cost hassle and time wasted in billionaire vs billoinaire, when BOTH Bezos and Ambani can hire team to assassinate one another and solve problem mafia-way for 1/10th the price they spend battling it out in courts.

That is pretty much unspoken rule #1 of plutocrats: we dont kill one another over $$ or anything unless its intensely personal in the first place and goes beyond business.
 
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Those of you who are into US stocks shd seriously consider shorting Tesla - lot of money can be made here. Was saying this exact thing a few weeks back too.


To be perfectly honest tho, pretty much every tech stock can be shorted right now.
 
Those of you who are into US stocks shd seriously consider shorting Tesla - lot of money can be made here. Was saying this exact thing a few weeks back too.


To be perfectly honest tho, pretty much every tech stock can be shorted right now.
Hasn't everyone and their mother already bought puts on tesla, I don't think buying put options now would be a wise decision. Shorting might be even riskier. But then again, I know very little about markets in general.
 
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I'm surprised Americans haven't grown a spine and shot Musk in the face yet. This guy is hard at work in dismantling US gov defense agencies and contractors. And he forwards all contracts to his own companies. Swatting all US military launch programs wasn't enough, this guy is on his way to become the main launch provider of US military satellites. And just in case, all US DOD and White House communications go through Starlink's data centers now. And he wants all of Pentagon's traffic to be switched from land based federal gigabit hardlines to Starlink. Musk runs DOGE in all but name, and is re-directing billions of dollars of gov contracts to his companies, while blacklisting competitors. Raytheon, Boeing and Lockheed won't keep taking this shit lying down. The Deep State has lost it's depth it seems. And the rest of the cucks are ranting in Reddit instead of ponying up and neutralizing this guy before he plates the entire US defense ecosystem on a platter and gobbles it up with a side of intel networks.
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Well, no idea which 'Americans' are you referring to here?
Are you talking about the Christian Republicans?
Or the JIhadi pedo Democrats?
Or the neutrals?

It's ironic the hate Elon gets when he is responsible for some of the greatest innovations in human history.

I was just checking Tesla's share price. In 5 years from 32 dollars to 239
Yet people are shitting on it. Even with the current down, it still is one the best returns on a stock.
In fact if I was playing in US market, I would be grabbing Tesla stock.
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On other hand, Disney's stock in last 5 years.
From 100 dollars to 83.
Basically if you bought Disney stock 5 years back at 100, you are fked.
Yet, I don't see anyone talking about Disney.
Their disastrous track record in producing movies and tv shows is never discussed.

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If someone bought Tesla stock instead of Disney 5 years back, they would have been looking at nearly 8 times their return at this point in time.

If Ukraine has not been run over, it's not due to the hardware provided by west or the Ukrainian soldiers, it is simply due to Elon's Starlink.
If anyone thinks without Starlink Ukraine would have survived, they are living in some fantasy land here.
Yet, Elon get's abused when he is pretty much subsidizing Starlink in Ukraine.

All this talk about how other companies are being booted out by Elon's companies, well, track record speaks for itself,
from Neuralink to Starlink to Tesla to SpaceX, this guy is pretty much at the top with second no where to be seen.

Even his X which was thought to be a bad buy few years back is now looking like golden goose.

It's hilarious how the same guys who wanted to save planet, oil bad, wars are bad etc etc are shitting on the one guy who is saving the planet, reducing oil dependency, advocating for ending wars.

The only people who hate Elon are the people who want to shove tampons into boys buttHoles, chop their dik & balls and cut little girls breasts.
Female circumcision is banned BUT chopping the whole thing is what these perverts support.
 
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$10 trillion lost since Trump became president.

In return world is getting this ..
Arabi swines who minted dollars out of nothing, had an annual budget built for 90$ a barrel crude will be getting screwed.
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However, the $6 trillion wiped from the stock market included a portion of my pension—money that has largely vanished. Regardless of my support for Trump’s efforts to reshape global trade, I don’t appreciate seeing my savings evaporate. And with a looming recession, whatever remains may soon be gone as well.

Whether Trump’s strategy will ultimately succeed is still up for debate, but for now, my money—and that of many middle-class Americans who support him—has been caught in the crossfire.

Sad to hear that, but this is why one should never go all in on stocks whether you're buying them directly or through mutual funds/ETF's .

Always diversify to reduce risk: include international equities and bonds in your portfolio which went down a lot lesser than US stocks.
 
Well, no idea which 'Americans' are you referring to here?
Are you talking about the Christian Republicans?
Or the JIhadi pedo Democrats?
Or the neutrals?

It's ironic the hate Elon gets when he is responsible for some of the greatest innovations in human history.

I was just checking Tesla's share price. In 5 years from 32 dollars to 239
Yet people are shitting on it. Even with the current down, it still is one the best returns on a stock.
In fact if I was playing in US market, I would be grabbing Tesla stock.
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Tesla is possibly the most overvalued stock in the history of the markets, those prices make no sense. Elmo and co would make all sort of crazy promises - how full self driving would be a reality by 2016, how they would have robots working in Mars by 2018 and the stock would go up. Compare them with their competitors - look at their P/E values. Does the valuation make any sense? Also, a number of competitors have actually better products right now (who are not selling overpriced junk in the name of 'luxury cars') which is one reason why Tesla sales are falling globally.

A company can remain over valued for an extended period of time but the market always corrects back. No way the Tesla stocks are worth more than US$ 60-80.

What the other user wrote is true tho, Elmo and co really have access to some very sensitive stuff that directly benefits his companies. It is not a cope to call it out as such.
 
Tesla is possibly the most overvalued stock in the history of the markets, those prices make no sense. Elmo and co would make all sort of crazy promises - how full self driving would be a reality by 2016, how they would have robots working in Mars by 2018 and the stock would go up. Compare them with their competitors - look at their P/E values. Does the valuation make any sense? Also, a number of competitors have actually better products right now (who are not selling overpriced junk in the name of 'luxury cars') which is one reason why Tesla sales are falling globally.

A company can remain over valued for an extended period of time but the market always corrects back. No way the Tesla stocks are worth more than US$ 60-80.

What the other user wrote is true tho, Elmo and co really have access to some very sensitive stuff that directly benefits his companies. It is not a cope to call it out as such.

Agree with all that but the fact remains stock market is never a true reflection of a companies health.
If it were, there would not be such market fluctuations.

Fact also remains, stock market basically reflects confidence of people/investors in that particular company.

What ever faults Tesla has, it is still the no 1 EV company in the world in terms of tech and innovation.
They will lead tech and innovation in EV for foreseeable future.

Tesla is the probably the only EV company in US that has already paid back govt loan & that too long before it was due.

Lastly, it's not just Tesla's price that is reflected in the stock market.
It is the fact that it's run by Elon that also reflects in the stock market. It also reflects few other golden gooses that Elon owns that reflect in Tesla's stock price.

If I could invest in US market, I would be buying Tesla with every single dollar I had. You are not going to be getting Tesla stock this cheap in few years.

I was comparing Tesla to Disney.
If Tesla is worth 60-80, then Disney should be selling for a dollar, considering how bad the last few years has been for the company.
 

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