Indian Small Arms and Weapons

[BlackViking]

@BlackViking bhau i remember some amreeki manufacturer making this thing around 2010 times at least
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notice it's similar concept, but he made it hinged by sacrificing AK's iron sight while providing a well adjustable peep sight at base of the rail itself, plus it locks on the rear trunnion through that captive pin

if you're into manufacturing, assume that they'll eventually go for FAB style buttstock adapter or AR buffer tube adaptor stock, then make some sort of lock for rear trunnion on rail piece, rest you can think some ideas yourself

also for more reference, just search 'ak beryl rail' on google and you'll find other such rails too, for example this one here

(1192) AK47 / AK74 Beryl Style Scope Top Rail Mount

The Beryl Style Scope Mount is the ultimate choice for shooters who want to equip their AK47, AK74, or Saiga rifle with a reliable and sturdy scope mount. Featuring a Beryl-style design and Picatinny rail, this scope mount offers unparalleled stability and versatility.

www.shootingsportssupplies.com

Tacticalstore | Actionsport, äventyr & utrustning

Sveriges bästa sortiment för actionsport, militär utrustning och aktivt friluftsliv.

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BTW, are there any reviews for these products? While this appears to be an easy solution, I feel like it will have some challenges.

Mfg problem: It's a fairly long but slender component.
Structural: Sagging
User problem: How easy is this to use in case of clearing jams/field stripping.

 

[johny_baba]

BTW, are there any reviews for these products? While this appears to be an easy solution, I feel like it will have some challenges.

Mfg problem: It's a fairly long but slender component.
Structural: Sagging
User problem: How easy is this to use in case of clearing jams/field stripping.

well i don't know about reviews on websites but do search on youtube as much as you can about actual beryl and such rails,
otherwise rest of the world has shifted to integrated top rail dust cover thing because it's easier solution, but then again AK platform is such that there will be some 'play' on dust cover after some disassembly - making it less accurate with optics atop - i also suspect AK-203i would eventually require some maintenance with its top covers in some years
so yeah

 

[BlackViking]

well i don't know about reviews on websites but do search on youtube as much as you can about actual beryl and such rails,
otherwise rest of the world has shifted to integrated top rail dust cover thing because it's easier solution, but then again AK platform is such that there will be some 'play' on dust cover after some disassembly - making it less accurate with optics atop - i also suspect AK-203i would eventually require some maintenance with its top covers in some years
so yeah

So, if accuracy and holding zero are important, a durable rear rail system for AKs cannot be produced without sacrificing some requirements.

 

[johny_baba]

So, if accuracy and holding zero are important, a durable rear rail system for AKs cannot be produced without sacrificing some requirements.

ah no, i meant it in general that AK platform itself isn't accurate as other rifles, even the best galil and finnish builds have issues and there's a limit with upgrades here

 

[BlackViking]

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@johny_baba @VictorDelta4 @Corvus Splendens I wanted some suggestions from y'all on this. Everything on the bare AK is self-designed and fabricated

 

[johny_baba]

@johny_baba @VictorDelta4 @Corvus Splendens I wanted some suggestions from y'all on this. Everything on the bare AK is self-designed and fabricated

yeah i saw that before, seems pretty standard kit to me, if they throw muh weight restrictions etc then it's possible to create stamped sheet metal handguards (with required reinforcements in place) to shed some weight here and there, rest rails can be milled and affixed with rivets or bolts on it (after all a top rail on that upper handguard around its gas tube is pretty much useless for most things as optics that far is not happening much, barely a reddot at maximum - and 3,6,9 positions are mostly to affix non-precision aiming things anyways)
if you guys can make it, offer a muzzle device similar to AK-203 with kit

 

[VictorDelta4]

@johny_baba @VictorDelta4 @Corvus Splendens I wanted some suggestions from y'all on this. Everything on the bare AK is self-designed and fabricated

yeah i saw that before, seems pretty standard kit to me, if they throw muh weight restrictions etc then it's possible to create stamped sheet metal handguards (with required reinforcements in place) to shed some weight here and there, rest rails can be milled and affixed with rivets or bolts on it (after all a top rail on that upper handguard around its gas tube is pretty much useless for most things as optics that far is not happening much, barely a reddot at maximum - and 3,6,9 positions are mostly to affix non-precision aiming things anyways)
if you guys can make it, offer a muzzle device similar to AK-203 with kit

Yeah more or less this. And I agree, if you could incorporate a muzzle device with the kit that would round it off.
Also has IA specified to keep the safety standard or can you also incorporate the Enhanced safety selector? If I am not mistaken, they asked for it to be removed from the 203. Right @johny_baba?

 

[johny_baba]

Yeah more or less this. And I agree, if you could incorporate a muzzle device with the kit that would round it off.
Also has IA specified to keep the safety standard or can you also incorporate the Enhanced safety selector? If I am not mistaken, they asked for it to be removed from the 203. Right @johny_baba?

nah it's there on desi 203, but as per my air force fren they were not allowed to go tactical drills with it

i believe Galil style fire selector should be inducted on desi AKs like Trichy - it's already there on Arsenal M4F41 and M5F41, from where Trichy was copied, except they didn't take that fire selector thing?! BUT OFB/AWEIL FOLKS DID PUT GALIL STYLE FIRE SELECTOR ON TRICHY CARBINE - TRICA THING

WHY CAN'T THEY FUCKIN' STREAMLINE AND STANDARDISE THEIR PRODUCTS WITH PROPER FEATURES ?!

 

[VictorDelta4]

WHY CAN'T THEY FUCKIN' STREAMLINE AND STANDARDISE THEIR PRODUCTS WITH PROPER FEATURES ?!

Public firm BS. I think its a case of Planed Obsolescence so that the tenders so that the follow up upgrade tenders can keep coming in.