Indian Politics and Democracy

[Blademaster]

These guys were sleeping till. BJP is biggest threat to national security

And Mamata Banerjee and her coterie is not?

 

[asl001]

I have put the unpaid IT celliya on my ignore list.
I suggest y'all also do the same for peace of mind.

He still has a valid point. Although he shouldn't have responded in such a way.
Modi conducted himself similarly during surgical strike and balakot strikes.
Plus, what kind of messaging does he provide to the citizens, if he comes on the stage starts yelling like hitler for 6 hours a day.
During ukraine war, putin also behaved similarly( dead opposite of zelensky). It potrayed that he was under no pressure at all. And has total control of situation.

 

[Prasad]

He still has a valid point. Although he shouldn't have responded in such a way.
Modi conducted himself similarly during surgical strike and balakot strikes.
Plus, what kind of messaging does he provide to the citizens, if he comes on the stage starts yelling like hitler for 6 hours a day.
During ukraine war, putin also behaved similarly( dead opposite of zelensky). It potrayed that he was under no pressure at all. And has total control of situation.

He knows all that.
His problem is not lack of understanding but hatred of Modi and BJP.

Most of his posts are pretty much abusing them.

 

[asl001]

He knows all that.
His problem is not lack of understanding but hatred of Modi and BJP.

Most of his posts are pretty much abusing them.

There was chronic BJP hater in the dfi days as well. I'm pretty sure it's him. But he is less aggressive here.

 

[SKC]

View: https://x.com/Oye_Jahazi/status/1917434635673276537

 

[shade2]

He still has a valid point. Although he shouldn't have responded in such a way.
Modi conducted himself similarly during surgical strike and balakot strikes.
Plus, what kind of messaging does he provide to the citizens, if he comes on the stage starts yelling like hitler for 6 hours a day.
During ukraine war, putin also behaved similarly( dead opposite of zelensky). It potrayed that he was under no pressure at all. And has total control of situation.

Don't know his point, he is on ignore list

I don't want to hear some unpaid IT celliya's barkings which is why he is on ignore list
I also similarly put 5-6 of those new account paki bhosdapillers on ignore list for the opposite reason

 

[notaname]

#WATCH | Delhi | "Cabinet Committee on Political Affairs has decided today that Caste enumeration should be included in the forthcoming census," says Union Minister Ashiwini Vaishnaw on Union Cabinet decisions.


View: https://x.com/ANI/status/1917531309255049427?t=bc3JECU2Wn_COjSIdZrLXg&s=19

 

[Azaad]

#WATCH | Delhi | "Cabinet Committee on Political Affairs has decided today that Caste enumeration should be included in the forthcoming census," says Union Minister Ashiwini Vaishnaw on Union Cabinet decisions.


View: https://x.com/ANI/status/1917531309255049427?t=bc3JECU2Wn_COjSIdZrLXg&s=19

Modi has set the cat among the pigeons. With states empowered to list OBCs & possibly SCs & STs too & with the TLG govt implementation of the sub categorization of SCs & STs following a SC ruling, the stage is set for competing demands between various sub castes.

Telangana’s SC sub-quotas: A new phase in social justice politics

At the same time, the question of deepening fissures within the Dalit communities cannot be overlooked

indianexpress.com

You can expect to see the same across India. And just as you see competing castes dominate different political parties you're now going to see the same with sub castes within those castes.

So everytime Pappu pulls out the caste census card he'd have to answer how's he going to balance it out between various sub castes.

 

[shade2]

Modi has set the cat among the pigeons. With states empowered to list OBCs & possibly SCs & STs too & with the TLG govt implementation of the sub categorization of SCs & STs following a SC ruling, the stage is set for competing demands between various sub castes.

Telangana’s SC sub-quotas: A new phase in social justice politics

At the same time, the question of deepening fissures within the Dalit communities cannot be overlooked

indianexpress.com

You can expect to see the same across India. And just as you see competing castes dominate different political parties you're now going to see the same with sub castes within those castes.

So everytime Pappu pulls out the caste census card he'd have to answer how's he going to balance it out between various sub castes.

Hope this scheme destroys ((( jitni aabadi utna haq ))) bs once and for all.
Can't have social fissures when you have the greens on both sides and within, Chings and the W*st all coming after us

 

[GodEmperorDoom]

Modi has set the cat among the pigeons. With states empowered to list OBCs & possibly SCs & STs too & with the TLG govt implementation of the sub categorization of SCs & STs following a SC ruling, the stage is set for competing demands between various sub castes.

Telangana’s SC sub-quotas: A new phase in social justice politics

At the same time, the question of deepening fissures within the Dalit communities cannot be overlooked

indianexpress.com

You can expect to see the same across India. And just as you see competing castes dominate different political parties you're now going to see the same with sub castes within those castes.

So everytime Pappu pulls out the caste census card he'd have to answer how's he going to balance it out between various sub castes.

So it's to prevent Caste-conscious parties forming on basis of Caste right? Afterall now they can't consolidate as much as previously.

If "Caste" is used to divide Hindus, then "Sub-Caste" is gonna be used to divide the very castes themselves.

 

[truthsoldier]

#WATCH | Delhi | "Cabinet Committee on Political Affairs has decided today that Caste enumeration should be included in the forthcoming census," says Union Minister Ashiwini Vaishnaw on Union Cabinet decisions.


View: https://x.com/ANI/status/1917531309255049427?t=bc3JECU2Wn_COjSIdZrLXg&s=19

Bjp fulfilling every agenda of congress. Ofcourse many will see 56 dimensional chess in it. Just breach 50% cap and also bring reservations in private sector to end this drama fast

 

[shade2]

Bjp fulfilling every agenda of congress. Ofcourse many will see 56 dimensional chess in it. Just breach 50% cap and also bring reservations in private sector to end this drama fast

This seems to be giving them a taste of their own medecine.
Already in TL and KA after caste census they are having lungi shivering over making the results public since their own caste vote banks will chimp out at the ballot box, this adds more ghee to the fire.

caste into sub-castes into clans, make all this divide and rule scheme of chorgress meaningless

 

[Azaad]

So it's to prevent Caste-conscious parties forming on basis of Caste right? Afterall now they can't consolidate as much as previously.

If "Caste" is used to divide Hindus, then "Sub-Caste" is gonna be used to divide the very castes themselves.

We already have caste based parties even if they don't call themselves as such . What's the BSP or SP or Apna Dal or RJD or JD(U) or the DMK or the AIADMK or the PMK and on & on all about?

It's just that an SP will no longer be able to project itself as the Messiah of the OBCs while promoting Yadav Samaj & their own personal family interests.

Arguably this divide is not new & has been on going. That's how Modi managed to capture power the first time & retain it till now. Ditto for YA.

What you're going to see is an acceleration in this trend!

 

[Sanatani]

Hope this scheme destroys ((( jitni aabadi utna haq ))) bs once and for all.
Can't have social fissures when you have the greens on both sides and within, Chings and the W*st all coming after us

Best thing will be to conduct a caste census of the greens too

 

[truthsoldier]

Bjp fulfilling every agenda of congress. Ofcourse many will see 56 dimensional chess in it. Just breach 50% cap and also bring reservations in private sector to end this drama fast

Also what was the need for such an announcement when country is one in patriotism and a border crisis dangling on heads?

 

[crazywithmath]

Modi has set the cat among the pigeons. With states empowered to list OBCs & possibly SCs & STs too & with the TLG govt implementation of the sub categorization of SCs & STs following a SC ruling, the stage is set for competing demands between various sub castes.

Telangana’s SC sub-quotas: A new phase in social justice politics

At the same time, the question of deepening fissures within the Dalit communities cannot be overlooked

indianexpress.com

You can expect to see the same across India. And just as you see competing castes dominate different political parties you're now going to see the same with sub castes within those castes.

So everytime Pappu pulls out the caste census card he'd have to answer how's he going to balance it out between various sub castes.

Ji has already given up on conducting the census anyway. We are running 4 years late now, where are the notifications?

Will probably end up like yet another damp squib like that ***caste census*** they conducted back in 2011 in parallel with the general census. And that is if and when they bother to conduct one, at all!

Dangling lollipops just before the Bihar polls.

 

[shade2]

Best thing will be to conduct a caste census of the greens too

I think it's aimed at them in the first place.

 

[crazywithmath]

I think it's aimed at them in the first place.

It will be a nothing burger. They are bringing out a new lollipop just before the Bihar polls.

 

[truthsoldier]

This seems to be giving them a taste of their own medecine.
Already in TL and KA after caste census they are having lungi shivering over making the results public since their own caste vote banks will chimp out at the ballot box, this adds more ghee to the fire.

caste into sub-castes into clans, make all this divide and rule scheme of chorgress meaningless

For general category, the taste is only going to get bitter rest assured while BJP and congress compete in taking the slippery slope.

 

[Azaad]

Ji has already given up on conducting the census anyway. We are running 4 years late now, where are the notifications?

Will probably end up like yet another damp squib like that ***caste census*** they conducted back in 2011 in parallel with the general census. And that is if and when they bother to conduct one, at all!

Dangling lollipops just before the Bihar polls.

You guys aren't getting the meat of the issue. What was the entire thrust of the caste census all about?

It was based on the understanding that the sheer population of the underclass namely the OBCs, SCs & STs would have risen, hence their percentage in terms of the total population would've risen too.

The next step would be a caste census following which pass the amendment to the respective acts for the aforementioned groups increasing the quota for reservations to beyond 50% thus breaching the SC set norms.

Now even if the SC intervenes which they would , parties would expect the government to put the said bill under the ninth schedule which is out of judicial purview.

No government can refuse this demand as no government could refuse the demand to re enact the law on atrocities act of SCs & STs when it was struck down by the SC.

Now the government can well turn around & put the issue of sub quotas ahead insisting any movement forward must be subject to agreement on this & given how fractious a society we're there will always be a disgruntled sub caste or more in every state.

To make matters more complicated the states now have been empowered to enumerate sub castes . Which party has the gumption then to alienate a sub caste/s at the expense of the other? For perspective look at what's happening in Karnataka or TLG now.

Arguably the government took all this time to gradually prepare the ground for precisely this eventuality. The SC judgement last year came as a shot in the arm , whether with behind the scenes agreement , we don't know. But it is what it is.

Sit back & see the tamasha unfold.