Indian Politics and Democracy

[crazywithmath]

Volume cannot be taken as ratio of GDP that's retarded. You truly demonstrated your level there.

In money terms, it hasn't declined in terms of money, even if you take it at nominal and assume procurement doesn't facor in inflation.

It's essentially stayed flat, your claim of decrease will still be false.

2014-15: 1.06 / 126.54 = 0.00837
2022-23: 2.28 / 269.5 = 0.0084

An 1 % increase.

Also,.based on articles quotes earlier, it has increased post 22-23.

You can cry, cope, seethe and come up with word celling as much you like.

Will not alter the ground reality that all your bhosdapilling over 'muh MSPs destroying fiscal' was pathetic and does not pass the smell test.

Next time, read up on the topic, maybe run some calculations before coming up with random grandiose claims that won't survive the scrutiny of a bunch of armchair genrols.

This is not FaceBook, you will not get away with making stupid claims.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

speaking of indian politics and democracy, where is the latest chatter at, for splitting mega-states like UP-Bihar ??
This was on main news till covid happened and then it just went away. did we give up on the idea/realize its bad idea or did just other things take over ?

 

[Nicky]

You can cry, cope, seetheand come up with word celling as yoi like.

Will not alter the ground reality that all your bhosdapilling over 'muh MSPs destroying fiscal' was pathetic and does not pass the smell test.

Next time, read up on the topic, maybe run some calculations before coming up with random grandiose claims that won't survive the scrutiny of a bunch of armchair genrols.

This is not FaceBook, you will not get away with making stupid claims.

Haha not able to back claim of decline in procurement.

You showed your level when you divided tonnes by gdp.

Claims proven false

Government doesn't provide msp procurement data
Procurement has gone down
Low Fiscal deficit means we are good

Next time, come up with better excuses. I can't expect arguments from someone as vulgar as you.

 

[crazywithmath]

Haha not able to back claim of decline in procurement.

Decline in volume terms in agreement with increase in nominal GDP is apparent.

You showed your level when you divided tonnes by gdp.

Claims proven false

Government doesn't provide msp procurement data

No, it does not. Before I hand you out another round of arse whooping, I challenge you to furnish the overall MSP expenditure RE for FY 2023-24.

Do it.

 

[Nicky]

Decline in volume terms in agreement with increase in nominal GDP is apparent.



No, it does not. Before I hand you out another round of arse whooping, I challenge you to furnish the overall MSP expenditure RE for FY 2023-24.

Do it.

Volume can't be divided by GDP. That's utterly retarded. In actual terms volume has increased.

You are too impotent to even kick a kids arse.

Your claim wasn't of any particular year. You claimed government doesn't provide data. Then on what are you basing all the calculations?Your sordid imagination?

We have data of 22-23, later years will be released in due course. Your claim that procurement data is not available has been rendered utterly false. No amount of spinning like the Porkies will work.

Climb back to your little hole, vulgar dude or throw another tantrum.

 

[crazywithmath]

At the end of the day it all started because Nicky is arguing against freebies across party lines. CrazyWithMath is arguing that freebies are fine as long as they take a back seat as absolute pecent spent decreases every year.

I am more of a libertarian so am of the firm opinion that the state has no business holding on to money it cannot spend and hand it back to the people. The incumbent, for instance, has already hir the ceiling on capex - they cannot increase it any further. So should hand it back to the people - it also makes political sense.

Else, they can always hand over their surplus to congressis like they did in Karnataka.

 

[crazywithmath]

Volume can't be divided by GDP. That's utterly retarded. In actual terms volume has increased.

% Increase in volume < % increase in GDP

dy/dx of volume < dy/dx of GDP

Is it clear, now?

You are too impotent to even kick a kids arse.

Your claim wasn't of any particular year. You claimed government doesn't provide data. Then on are you basing all the calculations? The PIB data ofcourse.

We have data of 22-23, later years will be released in due course. Your claim that procurement data is not available has been rendered utterly false. No amount of spinning like the Porkies will work.

Climb back to your little hole, vulgar dude or throw another tantrum.

FY 2023-24 ended like 13 months back, where is the data?

Not interested in your word celling, give me the figures cuz you said they did not hide their numbers.

 

[Nicky]

% Increase in volume < % increase in GDP

dy/dx of volume < dy/dx of GDP

Is it clear, now?



FY 2023-24 ended like 13 months back, where is the data?

No tonnes as ratio of GDP is retarded, no matter how you try to spin it. They are not in the same units thus nonsensical. Because it does not factor cost which varies between the time period.

You claimed we don't have any data. Demonstrably inaccurate.

You wanted to work with proxies instead of any data.

 

[crazywithmath]

No tonnes as ratio of GDP is retarded, no matter how you try to spin it. They are not in the same units thus nonsensical. Because it does not factor cost which varies between the time period.

There is no Tonne to GDP ratio here, dy/dx is unitless, can certainly be compared.

A certain, idiot was dividing nominal INR numbers with real INR figures tho, just saying....

You claimed we don't have any data. Demonstrably inaccurate.

You wanted to work with proxies instead of any data.

Don't care,

No, it does not. Before I hand you out another round of arse whooping, I challenge you to furnish the overall MSP expenditure RE for FY 2023-24.

Do it.

Still waiting.

 

[Nicky]

At the end of the day it all started because Nicky is arguing against freebies across party lines. CrazyWithMath is arguing that freebies are fine as long as they take a back seat as absolute pecent spent decreases every year.

Freebies destroy economies as demonstrated by the case of Telengana.

Freebies culture has picked up steam in the recent election cycles. It will only increase.

Take MP, they cut capex and increased welfare. Artificially, kept deficit about the same.

Deficit is not a good measure unless you look at where the money is being spent.

 

[Nicky]

There is no ratio here, dy/dx is unitless, can certainly be compared.

A certain, idiot was dividing nominal INR numbers with real INR figures tho, just saying....


Don't care,



Still waiting.

Cannot. When you divide it gives a ratio also know as fraction. Go learn basic maths.

Retard diff in number of tonnes has units. It's tonnes. Are you this dumb?

So if I jump 1 meter and my friend jumps 2 what unit is the difference is in?

If you divide tonnes by rupees it's not unitless.

This is class 2 level stuff.

It's different units and completely retarded.

I don't care what you care about.

Keep waiting.

Your claim for no procurement data was dumb and proven false. Everyone on this forum saw what a fool you are.

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

At the end of the day it all started because Nicky is arguing against freebies across party lines. CrazyWithMath is arguing that freebies are fine as long as they take a back seat as absolute pecent spent decreases every year.

political paries need to win election, this is the bottom-line. BJP maybe trying to play safe with freebies, because they aren't a one trick pony, freebies aren't only thing they do. for country as large as india and diverse, the mainstream political frameworks become meaningless here, bjp can't be like a western rw party, because indian rw are different to western rw.


They can't go with a my way or highway approach to politics, because all it takes is one term of chindi alliance led regime to reverse all the progress made during last 10 years and more.

Speaking of freebies themselves not all of them are bad :-

We have to accept the reality that , women in most households of India have very little financial autonomy of their own, stuff like ladki behen can genuinely give a lifeline to these women. people do not realize how restrictive life can be for a woman in a typical Indian household especially in small towns or hell even in metros, having some money to spend on own liking is something that most of these women are deprived of.

Freebies can have redundancy, a blanket freebie is bad cause it gives benfits to those who really don't need.

 

[crazywithmath]

Cannot. It's different units and completely retarded.

dy/dx has different units? Do you have any idea what you are writing about?

I don't care what you care about.

Keep waiting.

Your claim for no procurement data was dumb and proven false.

You cannot respond because FY 2023-24 data is not public just like I claimed. Google's AI overview will not help you.

Decline in volume terms in agreement with increase in nominal GDP is apparent.



No, it does not. Before I hand you out another round of arse whooping, I challenge you to furnish the overall MSP expenditure RE for FY 2023-24.

Do it.

 

[Nicky]

dy/dx has different units? Do you have any idea what you are writing about?




You cannot respond because FY 2023-24 data is not public just like I claimed. Google's AI overview will not help you.

A tonnes - B tonnes is still in tonnes. It doesn't magically become unitless.

Dy is in tonnes and dx is in rupees. How is their ratio unitless?

You seriously need to go and redo basic maths.

Show me where you claimed FY 23-24 data is not available but earlier was. Cheap liar.

 

[crazywithmath]

Dy is in tonnes and dz is in rupees. How is their ratio unitless?

I explicitly mentioned dy/dx of volumes and dy/dx of nominal GDP before comparing both of them.

Comparing different metrices with GDP/GDPPC is standard practice in economics and econometrics. Following is an energy consumption vs GDPPC graph;

You seriously need to go and redo basic maths.

Show me where you claimed FY 23-24 data is not available but earlier was. Cheap liar.

I claimed that they did not publish the complete data (ie, statewise nos, nos by crop varieties etc) and only leaked some drips through media. Like I keep saying, wordcelling.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

A tonnes - B tonnes is still in tonnes. It doesn't magically become unitless.

Dy is in tonnes and dx is in rupees. How is their ratio unitless?

You seriously need to go and redo basic maths.

Show me where you claimed FY 23-24 data is not available but earlier was. Cheap liar.

dy/dx isnt ratio. its differentiation.
And its unitless
I may not know abc about economics, but i am the resident math dude. And dy/dx doesnt care about units - your initial equation you apply the differentiation to, may care- depending on what the exact expression is.

 

[Nicky]

I explicitly mentioned dy/dx of volumes and dy/dx of nominal GDP before comparing both of them.

Comparing different metrices with GDP/GDPPC is standard practice in economics and econometrics. Following is an energy consumption vs GDPPC graph;

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I claimed that they did not publish the complete data (ie, statewise nos, nos by crop varieties etc) and only leaked some drips through media. Like I keep saying, wordcelling.

That doesn't make it unitless as you claimed.

Units would be tonnes / rupees. Still an utterly meaningless when we have a direct cost / gdp comparison.

You claimed we don't have data, we do. That too by the government.

Keep trying to spin.

 

[crazywithmath]

That doesn't make it unitless as you claimed.

Units would be tonnes / rupees. Still an utterly meaningless when we have a direct cost / gdp comparison.

You have no idea how retarded you sound, do you? Derivatives, by definition, are unitless. I knew it when I was a high schooler, my goodness!

You claimed we don't have data, we do. That too by the government.

Keep trying to spin.

 

[Nicky]

dy/dx isnt ratio. its differentiation.
And its unitless
I may not know abc about economics, but i am the resident math dude. And dy/dx doesnt care about units - your initial equation you apply the differentiation to, may care- depending on what the exact expression is.

Another one. Where does differentiation come in?

We are computing delta of one unit divided by delta of another unit.

 

[crazywithmath]

Another one. Where does differentiation come in?

We are computing delta of one unit divided by delta of another unit.

No, we aren't.