Indo-China Border & LAC

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Any upscale in Chinese activities on the LAC?

 

[maximus777]

View: https://x.com/hindupost/status/1910577852665278853

"Maa chuda" should be the message conveyed through official channels of MEA to the PRC.

 

[E-195]

NEW DELHI (Reuters) - India said on Wednesday that it rejects China's move to rename places in the northeastern state of Arunachal Pradesh where the Asian neighbours share a border, adding that the Himalayan territory was an integral part of India.

Beijing has renamed places in Arunachal Pradesh in the past as well and the issue has been an irritant in ties between the two countries, especially as they deteriorated sharply after a deadly military clash elsewhere on their border in 2020.

They reached an agreement in October to step back from their four-year military stand-off in the western Himalayas, leading to disengagement of troops.

Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Lin Jian told a media briefing that Beijing had "standardised some place names in (Arunachal Pradesh), which is entirely within China's sovereignty" - repeating what has been Beijing's standard response.

India rejects China's latest renaming of places in Arunachal border state

India said on Wednesday that it rejects China's move to rename places in the northeastern state of Arunachal Pradesh where the Asian neighbours share a border, adding that the Himalayan territory was an integral part of India. Beijing has renamed places in Arunachal Pradesh in the past as well...

www.yahoo.com

 

[maximus777]

If we really have the balls, we have numerous levers to pull on the PRC - recognize Taiwan as a separate country, trash the one China policy, create noise on Uighurs and support Uighur govt in exile, provide govt in exile for Baloch endangering CPEC, raise some noise on Tibet, have Dalai Lama make some speeches on PRC oppression!

 

[shade2]

If we really have the balls, we have numerous levers to pull on the PRC - recognize Taiwan as a separate country, trash the one China policy, create noise on Uighurs and support Uighur govt in exile, provide govt in exile for Baloch endangering CPEC, raise some noise on Tibet, have Dalai Lama make some speeches on PRC oppression!

Sarkar's official position is thus



Antagonizing one biker means the other will come to kill you so the current situation suits us.

Regardless all the diplomatese tricks you are trying are best done once we have a solid build up of gear to establish hard deterrence against any >"Chaina is vely upset" wolf-warrior drama on the LAC

 

[Azaad]

140km from mont Everest, how to deliver and install wind engergy equipment from inner Mongolia to Tibet with 3800km


View: https://youtu.be/44YCBqGw2N0?si=ivZGBTNxMMtU8c-i

How exactly is this related to the LAC ?

 

[crazywithmath]

How exactly is this related to the LAC ?

I have always maintained that we gain nothing, absolutely nothing, by keeping these dog eaters on the forum. One does not get genuine alternative perspectives from a bunch of state backed trolls.

But mods keep them anyway cuz it gives the forum more engagement.

 

[hurrians]

Reason for china agreeing to de-escalate

Economic Motivations: Both nations recognized mutual economic benefits, with China aiming to maintain trade advantages and India seeking to address trade imbalances, prompting a tactical de-escalation to stabilize relations ahead of the BRICS summit.Strategic

Chinese Domestic Pressures: China faced domestic economic challenges and uncertainties from global events like the U.S. election, encouraging a cooperative stance to avoid additional regional tensions.

Diplomatic Necessity: High-level talks between Modi and Xi, and sustained military-diplomatic negotiations since 2020, necessitated a patrolling rights deal to reduce tensions in Depsang and Demchok, reflecting a need to prevent a complete rupture in relations.

Regional Stability: China’s interest in maintaining a stable South Asian environment, avoiding an openly hostile India, and focusing on its primary strategic theater (Pacific) influenced its agreement to de-escalate.

International Image: Beijing sought to project a responsible international image, moving away from aggressive “wolf warrior” diplomacy, which supported the de-escalation agreement as a diplomatic gesture, however this was due to setbacks from so called wolf warrior diplomacy

 

[BlackViking]

I have always maintained that we gain nothing, absolutely nothing, by keeping these dog eaters on the forum. One does not get genuine alternative perspectives from a bunch of state backed trolls.

But mods keep them anyway cuz it gives the forum more engagement.

Anything worthwhile in the video, which can demonstrate some logistical challenges that chings solved with some lumber one secret technology?

 

[fire starter]

View: https://x.com/Duorope/status/1925169743050265085?t=JI4uSJ6lKkdpfV8AO3eV6Q&s=19

 

[KumaoniReborn]

View: https://x.com/kunal_biswas707/status/1925174665636721148?s=46

 

[Anants]

View: https://x.com/Duorope/status/1925169743050265085?t=JI4uSJ6lKkdpfV8AO3eV6Q&s=19

View: https://x.com/aryabhardwaj09/status/1925193308688584806

 

[GaudaNaresh]

One salient thing to remember - the Mega-dam that China is building in Tibet - its in Medog county, right across from the Border of Arunachal Pradesh. And we control the ridgeline that oversees Nyingchi City.

So its actually a strategic noose around China's neck - given the precision munitions we have and the closeness of the actual Dam logistics, we can pin-point bomb its power distribution,so that the dam is working just fine, but the region 5-50 km from the dam where all the power transmission infrastructure will be, is gone bye bye. The topgraphical map of tibet is clear-cut in this part to know how the actual power distribution lines will be laid and no, they aint crossing 5km tall Himalayan snow peaks - because building them may be a glory-shot for Chicoms, but maintaining them is an ass thing to deal with long term.

The reason there is so much Chinese propaganda about Indian missile and ammunitions and this performance is because it has the Chicoms nervous - they know we can do Operation Sindoor on them over tibet if push came to shove- so ofcourse, we wont do it like we did with pakistan, we will do it only when China tries to bully us militarily and thinks time is right to bite of another chunk from India in 1963 part 2.

This changes their calculus too- remember, Himalayan air combat is a very different beast and Indo-Chinese air force standoff wont be an Indo-Pak air force standoff where you have radar tracking of all airborne target- you are playing peek-a-boo over a 6km tall range and basically you are not able to detect platform - you detect missile only after launch, which is very bad, as you have very little time to react as you didnt see the Su-30 come to you like the Paks saw it come towards them with THEIR radar- as its flat terrain and they can see into us as we can see into them.

So if Chinese are not sure they can stop and Scalp, their entire war calculus against India changes, as they wont be able to prevent an Operation Sindoor on their tibetan infrastructure and it may turn into China losing Tibet over trying to do 1963 part-2. This is the main thing that has Chicoms worried.

 

[srev2004]

One salient thing to remember - the Mega-dam that China is building in Tibet - its in Medog county, right across from the Border of Arunachal Pradesh. And we control the ridgeline that oversees Nyingchi City.

So its actually a strategic noose around China's neck - given the precision munitions we have and the closeness of the actual Dam logistics, we can pin-point bomb its power distribution,so that the dam is working just fine, but the region 5-50 km from the dam where all the power transmission infrastructure will be, is gone bye bye. The topgraphical map of tibet is clear-cut in this part to know how the actual power distribution lines will be laid and no, they aint crossing 5km tall Himalayan snow peaks - because building them may be a glory-shot for Chicoms, but maintaining them is an ass thing to deal with long term.

The reason there is so much Chinese propaganda about Indian missile and ammunitions and this performance is because it has the Chicoms nervous - they know we can do Operation Sindoor on them over tibet if push came to shove- so ofcourse, we wont do it like we did with pakistan, we will do it only when China tries to bully us militarily and thinks time is right to bite of another chunk from India in 1963 part 2.

This changes their calculus too- remember, Himalayan air combat is a very different beast and Indo-Chinese air force standoff wont be an Indo-Pak air force standoff where you have radar tracking of all airborne target- you are playing peek-a-boo over a 6km tall range and basically you are not able to detect platform - you detect missile only after launch, which is very bad, as you have very little time to react as you didnt see the Su-30 come to you like the Paks saw it come towards them with THEIR radar- as its flat terrain and they can see into us as we can see into them.

So if Chinese are not sure they can stop and Scalp, their entire war calculus against India changes, as they wont be able to prevent an Operation Sindoor on their tibetan infrastructure and it may turn into China losing Tibet over trying to do 1963 part-2. This is the main thing that has Chicoms worried.

If I were China, I would install radars in Pakistan to see Indian aircraft before they approach the mountains.

 

[maximus777]

One salient thing to remember - the Mega-dam that China is building in Tibet - its in Medog county, right across from the Border of Arunachal Pradesh. And we control the ridgeline that oversees Nyingchi City.

So its actually a strategic noose around China's neck - given the precision munitions we have and the closeness of the actual Dam logistics, we can pin-point bomb its power distribution,so that the dam is working just fine, but the region 5-50 km from the dam where all the power transmission infrastructure will be, is gone bye bye. The topgraphical map of tibet is clear-cut in this part to know how the actual power distribution lines will be laid and no, they aint crossing 5km tall Himalayan snow peaks - because building them may be a glory-shot for Chicoms, but maintaining them is an ass thing to deal with long term.

The reason there is so much Chinese propaganda about Indian missile and ammunitions and this performance is because it has the Chicoms nervous - they know we can do Operation Sindoor on them over tibet if push came to shove- so ofcourse, we wont do it like we did with pakistan, we will do it only when China tries to bully us militarily and thinks time is right to bite of another chunk from India in 1963 part 2.

This changes their calculus too- remember, Himalayan air combat is a very different beast and Indo-Chinese air force standoff wont be an Indo-Pak air force standoff where you have radar tracking of all airborne target- you are playing peek-a-boo over a 6km tall range and basically you are not able to detect platform - you detect missile only after launch, which is very bad, as you have very little time to react as you didnt see the Su-30 come to you like the Paks saw it come towards them with THEIR radar- as its flat terrain and they can see into us as we can see into them.

So if Chinese are not sure they can stop and Scalp, their entire war calculus against India changes, as they wont be able to prevent an Operation Sindoor on their tibetan infrastructure and it may turn into China losing Tibet over trying to do 1963 part-2. This is the main thing that has Chicoms worried.

But a note of caution. China will try to drag this out so that it can bring to bear its industrial capacity. It will not be a 3-4 days affair and it will not cave into external pressures. So, India needs to be prepped to inflict maximum damage in the initial days so that the PRC sees wisdom in de-escalating soon. Either way India is on its own and should have no illusions about allies.

 

[maximus777]

If I were China, I would install radars in Pakistan to see Indian aircraft before they approach the mountains.

Paki duffers will happily join the war, if something breaks out between India - China. So it's almost a guaranteed 2 front at that point.

 

[Corvus Splendens]

Some old footage that recently resurfaced. For some reason forum won't display a few tweets. But the tweets are still active.


View: https://x.com/OsintUpdates/status/1925181791838642524


View: https://x.com/OsintUpdates/status/1925513017489277013


View: https://x.com/aryabhardwaj09/status/1925176869999055038


View: https://x.com/aryabhardwaj09/status/1925177341572989315

 

[GaudaNaresh]

But a note of caution. China will try to drag this out so that it can bring to bear its industrial capacity. It will not be a 3-4 days affair and it will not cave into external pressures. So, India needs to be prepped to inflict maximum damage in the initial days so that the PRC sees wisdom in de-escalating soon. Either way India is on its own and should have no illusions about allies.

China wont attack us for a 1963 redux, without having brought its industrial capacity to bear.
However, 'tibet' is not a linear,monolithic place and western tibet is very different from eastern tibet in topography, if you look at the maps: eastern tibet isnt flat plateau like western tibet is, east of the Karakoram.
Its Nyngchi region is all mountains and valleys and THAT is where they are building this massive dam.
As i said, a dam that is gonna generate like 25,000 MW of power, in a region like this,will follow a very predictable geographical path for power distribution cables.
Where will it go, if the dam is in Medog county?
Answer: It must follow the three chinese road networks : S306 that goes from Mainling to Lhasa, following the Arunachal Pradesh border ridgeline or the G4218, the highway that connects Nyingchi to Lhasa and also comes close to the AP border ridge and G318, that connects Nyingchi to Chamdo via Bome.
**THESE** are the only way out for the power cables. And this route puts their power distribution network within 20km of .
Which means, we dont have to TOUCH the dam, we can simply the transformer stations that WILL be made in either Nyingchi or Mainling or close by - there is no space for it go anywhere else and make power output of this dam go to 0.

If I were China, I would install radars in Pakistan to see Indian aircraft before they approach the mountains.

Pakistan installed radars, at MAX, can see only up to New Delhi - radar detection has approx range of 300-500km at best. And no, even if Chinese installed a radar in Bangladesh right where brahmaputra enters bangladesh, it still cant see past Guwahati.