Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

[Ajatshatru]

I believe India already possesses some type of stealth bomber drone—perhaps the GHATAK UCAV or something similar. I’m drawing this conclusion based on reports from people in Pakistan who claimed to see an aircraft dropping bombs near the Kirana Hills.

 

[Nishaanbaaz]

View: https://x.com/Shahaanbaloch95/status/1925230440517874044
Munnirs writers didn't take these plot holes into account

My reading right now is that it's an excuse to go and start a genocide in Balochistan, nothing else. They'll use this to justify some sort of "anti-terror campaign/offensive" and shift their attention and forces back to the West - this will also be an easier opponent than India to try and maybe score some sort of "win" after India just kicked their asses (could try to unite the country behind it as well, like they tried after APS Peshawar). That's what they did once they got back their PoW's from Bangladesh in '71 - Tikka Khan went from being the Butcher of Bengal to the Butcher of Balochistan in '74.

But the thing is, other than killing/raping innocents - I'm not sure they'll even be able to achieve much in Balochistan this time, especially if India finally steps the fuck up and starts supply of heavy duty weaponry like anti-armor and anti-air systems. This is an idea whose time has come.

 

[Decahex]

Truth or propoganda??

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View: https://x.com/Chopsyturvey/status/1925342108799680575

I see no mention of the C-130. This loss is perhaps the most accepted one among the international observers, AFAIK.

 

[maximus777]

My reading right now is that it's an excuse to go and start a genocide in Balochistan, nothing else. They'll use this to justify some sort of "anti-terror campaign/offensive" and shift their attention and forces back to the West - this will also be an easier opponent than India to try and maybe score some sort of "win" after India just kicked their asses (could try to unite the country behind it as well, like they tried after APS Peshawar). That's what they did once they got back their PoW's from Bangladesh in '71 - Tikka Khan went from being the Butcher of Bengal to the Butcher of Balochistan in '74.

But the thing is, other than killing/raping innocents - I'm not sure they'll even be able to achieve much in Balochistan this time, especially if India finally steps the fuck up and starts supply of heavy duty weaponry like anti-armor and anti-air systems. This is an idea whose time has come.

I think India should mass produce cheap drones and flood it in Balochistan through Afghanistan. Baloch boys can score some HQ9 and corner site-walas from the fauj foundation maybe?

 

[maximus777]

Truth or propoganda??

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View: https://x.com/Chopsyturvey/status/1925342108799680575

I wish they had identified the aircraft types for the 4 jets in the air. I hope there is a J10C in the mix somewhere. Badly need to puncture its veneer of invincibility and maybe tank its stocks too!

 

[Decahex]

There is a video of two C-130 burning can you share it

I know of only one.

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/war/comments/1kiyi3j/clearer_footage_of_a_c130_burning_at_noor_khan_afb/

 

[JConline]

I believe India already possesses some type of stealth bomber drone—perhaps the GHATAK UCAV or something similar. I’m drawing this conclusion based on reports from people in Pakistan who claimed to see an aircraft dropping bombs near the Kirana Hills.

Weren't the projectiles dropped on Kirana Hills allegedly missiles? If it is true that would limit the platform to Su 30 MKI.
Now, exploring what you said, the DRDO Ghatak's fist prototype flight trials was successful way back in Dec 2023. So it wouldn't be entirely improbable that IAF might have fielded a prototype. One thing that does act as a counter-argument is that the Ghatak stores it's weapons internally and from the visuals that came out of Kirana Hills, the explosions seemed to be too big for anything the Ghatak could potentially carry. Also, there are only 2 known prototypes of the Ghatak. Apparently, we hit multiple entrances at Kirana Hills. For the platform to be the Ghatak, IAF would need multiple Ghataks.
Moving on, let's explore a few other possibilities. Pakistan did bring in emergency drones and equipment right before the conflict started. I wouldn't be surprised if we did too. When the Pahalgam attack happened, I had made a rather outrageous wish that JD Vance is in India and Modi should try and get an early shipment of the 31 MQ-9B drones we purchased.

So my hypothesis on this would be that, if we did use UCAVs to hit Kirana, from the size of the blasts, I'd say those were AGM-114 Hellfire II anti-armor missiles launched from a few MQ-9Bs. Please note, that throughout that period we did have US military cargo planes that flew in and out of India. Could also explain why the US seems to be overly invested in this conflict and Trump is certainly pissed at Modi.

Please take all of the above with a massive pinch of salt. The easiest explanation still is that IAF categorically denied hitting Kirana Hills. So it's obvious that they wouldn't accept responsibility for flying Indian jets into Pakistan to bomb Kirana Hills.

 

[Ajatshatru]

Weren't the projectiles dropped on Kirana Hills allegedly missiles? If it is true that would limit the platform to Su 30 MKI.
Now, exploring what you said, the DRDO Ghatak's fist prototype flight trials was successful way back in Dec 2023. So it wouldn't be entirely improbable that IAF might have fielded a prototype. One thing that does act as a counter-argument is that the Ghatak stores it's weapons internally and from the visuals that came out of Kirana Hills, the explosions seemed to be too big for anything the Ghatak could potentially carry. Also, there are only 2 known prototypes of the Ghatak. Apparently, we hit multiple entrances at Kirana Hills. For the platform to be the Ghatak, IAF would need multiple Ghataks.
Moving on, let's explore a few other possibilities. Pakistan did bring in emergency drones and equipment right before the conflict started. I wouldn't be surprised if we did too. When the Pahalgam attack happened, I had made a rather outrageous wish that JD Vance is in India and Modi should try and get an early shipment of the 31 MQ-9B drones we purchased.

So my hypothesis on this would be that, if we did use UCAVs to hit Kirana, from the size of the blasts, I'd say those were AGM-114 Hellfire II anti-armor missiles launched from a few MQ-9Bs. Please note, that throughout that period we did have US military cargo planes that flew in and out of India. Could also explain why the US seems to be overly invested in this conflict and Trump is certainly pissed at Modi.

Please take all of the above with a massive pinch of salt. The easiest explanation still is that IAF categorically denied hitting Kirana Hills. So it's obvious that they wouldn't accept responsibility for flying Indian jets into Pakistan to bomb Kirana Hills.

we know the publicly available capabilities of Indian Air Force, there may be other assets we’re unaware of. Remember, no one knew IAF had MiG-25s until it was revealed they had been flying them over Pakistan for years.

 

[JConline]

we know the publicly available capabilities of the Indian Air Force, there may be other assets we’re unaware of. Remember, no one knew the IAF had MiG-25s until it was revealed they had been flying them over Pakistan for years.

Yep, agreed. Honestly, I don't think most of the forum was even aware of all of the weapon systems we used during Op Sindoor and how well everything was integrated and layered, let alone classified stuff.
Ngl, Op Sindoor puts a few things into perspective. The greatest of which, for me, is that much of our rr on this forum is unfounded.

 

[maximus777]

we know the publicly available capabilities of Indian Air Force, there may be other assets we’re unaware of. Remember, no one knew IAF had MiG-25s until it was revealed they had been flying them over Pakistan for years.

It's sad that we had to mothball those Mig25s. It would have been a potent platform for or air launched Agni variants with its speed and altitude, could have possibly been one of the options for the air arm of the nuke triad.

 

[Ajatshatru]

Yep, agreed. Honestly, I don't think most of the forum was even aware of all of the weapon systems we used during Op Sindoor and how well everything was integrated and layered, let alone classified stuff.
Ngl, Op Sindoor puts a few things into perspective. The greatest of which, for me, is that much of our rr on this forum is unfounded.

It's sad that we had to mothball those Mig25s. It would have been a potent platform for or air launched Agni variants with its speed and altitude, could have possibly been one of the options for the air arm of the nuke triad.

I don’t see anything wrong with targeting Pakistan’s nuclear installations if Pakistan is openly threatening to use nuclear weapons. Why should India tolerate nuclear blackmail?

 

[Krur_Singh]

can someone please explain this 23 wala concept?

saw hellfire on X post out these cryptic predictions as well. took me a long time to understand whatever the hell those numbers and colours meant, and even now i am not entirely sure.

they better not edge me and then do a KLPD at the end!


View: https://x.com/hellfire_81/status/1923581508205543444

India announces closure of airspace over Andaman Sea on May 23-24 for planned air activity​

India announces closure of airspace over Andaman Sea on May 23-24 for planned air activity

The Andaman and Nicobar Islands region has been used time and again by India for missile tests, with the test firing of the BrahMos supersonic missile in salvo mode in January 2025 being a recent example.

indianexpress.com

 

[JConline]

I don’t see anything wrong with targeting Pakistan’s nuclear installations if Pakistan is openly threatening to use nuclear weapons. Why should India tolerate nuclear blackmail?

Wrong?!
HELL NAH!
If it were up to me, GoI would absolutely do the big ball move of exposing exactly what they hit at Kirana and other nuclear installations and publish a BDA (Probably Modi would have done it if we were a 10T club member). That would make the US, Russia and China look like little sissies. Ik, we haven't absolutely severed all of Pakistan's "fangs" but goddamn, bombing nuclear storage sites and causing a nuclear meltdown in the 21st century after just 3 days of conflict and the best the nuclear enemy can do is cry to their abbu? The inner circles of the world's "high" societies surely know that the OGs are back in the game and arguably better at it than them in a lot of aspects.

 

[Cheepek]

View: https://x.com/__phoenix_fire_/status/1925422543231754695?t=OlaLkhR63ZHlOVxd49tatQ&s=19

 

[fire starter]

Lol.

View: https://x.com/PitchBright69/status/1925397388367143002?t=TfLmQ-C2DsR1MjGT1_gaFQ&s=19

 

[JConline]

View: https://x.com/__phoenix_fire_/status/1925422543231754695?t=OlaLkhR63ZHlOVxd49tatQ&s=19

Ab samajh mein aaya humare sunscreen se allergic Mahajan ka itna kyun jal raha hai.
The only time more Falcons were lost was in Op Desert Storm.
Munir ke medals check karo yaar koi. Plastic ke bane honge.

 

[Corvus Splendens]

I don’t see anything wrong with targeting Pakistan’s nuclear installations if Pakistan is openly threatening to use nuclear weapons. Why should India tolerate nuclear blackmail?

We don't have to. In the coming months, Israel will conduct more strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities. GoI needs to grow a spine, ask the chinese whether they are willing to die for their pets, and then go ahead with neutralizing paki nuke stockpiles and r&d centers with impunity.​

 

[Sanglamorre]

Lol.

View: https://x.com/PitchBright69/status/1925397388367143002?t=TfLmQ-C2DsR1MjGT1_gaFQ&s=19

Yes, that's how real people speak. Script bhi banana nahi aata inhe.

 

[Samaritan]

Nurkhan Airbase attack and probably the Kirana one had the clues of what went wrong with US that they came suddenly telling that they broke ceasefire.The other point is , even after such a humiliating defeat from Indian Armed forces , PAK army showing that they won the war against India. third Point what transpired between US-INDIA-PAK that after having upper hand , India accepted ceasefire. These three points are important which will set the things in perspective.
My take is , PAK is fully backed by China as well US . China supports openly where as US from Backdoors.
It is Important for both of them (US-CH) to keep India engaged with PAK so the PAK Nuclear boggy was harped. This time around India run out of Patience and they hit PAK which actually targated US.
Suddenly , US mask has come out and we have seen US posture is against India since 10th may. I think India GOV understood that its US doublegame that needs to be trated before fixing PAK. Its also important that China stand will be softened in near future and working relationship will be developed based on mutual understanding as China also understood that now it is not possible for PAK to bleed India because any further attack on Indan soil will call for full militery surrender of PAK by India and in that situation POK and GB will lost by PAK and will hit China much more .so i forsee engagement with China and distencing from USA as siding with UAS will harm more for Make In INDIA as we are developing our own militery infra.
It is also prudent to ask since 2009 or even 2014 , more visibally we have been called partners of USA , what have we gain from then , I do not recall any technology or deplomatic help they have provided to India rather its loss. So I beleive , India was correct in its stance to not getting into USA and just like USA , we have also rendered the leap service to them on deplomacy while charting our path. Probably USA guaged that their plan to pit India against China had failed and so they have renewed their Interest in PAK again!

 

[Sickle_Cut]

Nurkhan Airbase attack and probably the Kirana one had the clues of what went wrong with US that they came suddenly telling that they broke ceasefire.The other point is , even after such a humiliating defeat from Indian Armed forces , PAK army showing that they won the war against India. third Point what transpired between US-INDIA-PAK that after having upper hand , India accepted ceasefire. These three points are important which will set the things in perspective.
My take is , PAK is fully backed by China as well US . China supports openly where as US from Backdoors.
It is Important for both of them (US-CH) to keep India engaged with PAK so the PAK Nuclear boggy was harped. This time around India run out of Patience and they hit PAK which actually targated US.
Suddenly , US mask has come out and we have seen US posture is against India since 10th may. I think India GOV understood that its US doublegame that needs to be trated before fixing PAK. Its also important that China stand will be softened in near future and working relationship will be developed based on mutual understanding as China also understood that now it is not possible for PAK to bleed India because any further attack on Indan soil will call for full militery surrender of PAK by India and in that situation POK and GB will lost by PAK and will hit China much more .so i forsee engagement with China and distencing from USA as siding with UAS will harm more for Make In INDIA as we are developing our own militery infra.
It is also prudent to ask since 2009 or even 2014 , more visibally we have been called partners of USA , what have we gain from then , I do not recall any technology or deplomatic help they have provided to India rather its loss. So I beleive , India was correct in its stance to not getting into USA and just like USA , we have also rendered the leap service to them on deplomacy while charting our path. Probably USA guaged that their plan to pit India against China had failed and so they have renewed their Interest in PAK again!

The thing which is most frustating is there is IAF and GoI always give Pak an off ramp.

If Rafale was shot, why not a Volley of BrahMos toward PAF Kamra Base ( J-10 and PAC production center )

If PAF had the means or PLAAF , Hindon AFS , HAL facilities would be targeted without second thought