IAF's Sukhoi Su-30MKI

[DumbPilot]

Was there any hardware changes that necessitated this new cone though?

I am guessing that a new radar transparent coating was applied onto the radome

 

[NerVik]

I am guessing that a new radar transparent coating was applied onto the radome

I was hoping the radar itself got updated

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

I was hoping the radar itself got updated

Nah that will come with the new fleet wide update

 

[Corvus Splendens]

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/WarplanePorn/comments/1jw5pkp/iaf_su30mki_low_pass_during_iniochos_2025video/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

 

[DumbPilot]

I was hoping the radar itself got updated

The radome structure/coating is equally as important. If the atoms/molecules in the coating reflect or absorb radar waves, then it is a serious issue with respect to offensive and defensive electronic attack ability

 

[Bhartiya Sainik]

@fire starter , @haldilal , @125mm_Smoothbore , @AGNI 6 ICBM , others,

When can we expect the 1st MKI with DAS-MAWS?

 

[Satish Sharma Ji]

@fire starter , @haldilal , @125mm_Smoothbore , @AGNI 6 ICBM , others,

When can we expect the 1st MKI with DAS-MAWS?

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We don't even have a certified frame with all those 6 ir sensors and 80-90 aircrafts have been upgraded with indigeneous dcmaws

Post in thread 'Super Sukhoi's'

Jul 1, 2024

DC-MAWS is dual colour missile approach warning system. Dual Colour MAWS system operates in the mid IR band for identifying the approaching missiles of all generations. The spectral information of two colors is used to discriminate efficiently between sunlight reflections, background radiation and the radiation from the missile. The DCMAWS consists of a set of up to six dual color IR sensors installed on the platform, which samples the space in accordance with the defined spatial coverage and integrated with advanced processor running state-of-the-art clutter rejection and tracking...

• Satish Sharma Ji

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@fire starter , @haldilal , @125mm_Smoothbore , @AGNI 6 ICBM , others,

When can we expect the 1st MKI with DAS-MAWS?

View attachment 35757

 

[Bhartiya Sainik]

We don't even have a certified frame with all those 6 ir sensors and 80-90 aircrafts have been upgraded with indigeneous dcmaws

Post in thread 'Super Sukhoi's'

Jul 1, 2024

DC-MAWS is dual colour missile approach warning system. Dual Colour MAWS system operates in the mid IR band for identifying the approaching missiles of all generations. The spectral information of two colors is used to discriminate efficiently between sunlight reflections, background radiation and the radiation from the missile. The DCMAWS consists of a set of up to six dual color IR sensors installed on the platform, which samples the space in accordance with the defined spatial coverage and integrated with advanced processor running state-of-the-art clutter rejection and tracking...

• Satish Sharma Ji

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yeah, i mean our DC-MAWS, not the Russian ones.
If 80+ MKIs have been upgraded with DC-MAWS, do we have any image?

 

[Satish Sharma Ji]

yeah, i mean our DC-MAWS, not the Russian ones.
If 80+ MKIs have been upgraded with DC-MAWS, do we have any image?

I don't

 

[Neil (नील/Нил)]

“When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return.”
– Leonardo DaVinci

IAF Sukhoi Su-30MKI stealing the show by performing a low-level pass and soaring through the Vouraikos canyon in Greece !
From multinational exercise INIOCHOS-2025.




Credit: to respective owners!

 

[Bhartiya Sainik]

Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall
Humpy Bumpy sat on a runway

 

[Bhartiya Sainik]

Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall
Humpy Bumpy sat on a runway

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> The CONTEXT here is the RCS of MKI visible at large distances, in future era of emerging 6gen & us also making a stealth jet like AMCA.
> The RCS increases the PK (Probability of Kill).
The Su-30MKI has been a versatile, strong backbone, deterrent, premium fighter of IAF.
> But in future its big RCS will have to be compensated by LR-AAMs like Astr-3 SFDR. But others are also developing LR-AAMs.
> Some MKIs are upgraded with MAWS, better radar, avionics, SPJ which was done 10 years back on Su-35. Others are also doing such things. So by our delay we have reduced the useful MLUed life by at least 10-15 years.
> MKI's predominant strong point has been TVC. But J-10C also has it & J-20 may also get it. May be other Chinese Flankers will get it.
> Some people are confused on big radar. AESA radar doesn't flash all its TRMs together, but narrow beams in different modes. ofcourse, more TRMs means more advantage in certain way but doesn't mean straight away a better jet overall.
>What Russia is doing with their Su-3X (35, 30SM, etc) to counter EF-2000s, Rafales, Gripen, etc, is not comparable to India's geography, geopolitics, economy, etc. Moreover, they do have Su-75 initiated & can disclose answer to FCAS, GCAP any day.
> Russia, USA, EU are selling their 4gen to fund their 5/6gen projects.
> They themselves will use 4gen as broomers, moppers, with high stand-off weapons, or against weak adversaries in asymmetrical situation where chances of getting shot down, ejection, pilot's death/capture is almost none.
> The recent Indo-Pak clash was a short skirmish. It is easy to hide & deny losses on both sides. In larger scale wars the losses will be more visible to everyone, very difficult to hide/deny.
> If world makes mistakes, should we learn from it or copy those acts again?
> Su-3X is a beautiful jet, even i personaly like it really a lot, but MKI is not our design but modified version. They are the most humpy-bumpy fighters, the eagle has already become turkey, sorry to say that. So sentiments will not help. Progressive self-scrutiny/criticism is needed.
> AMCA should become the new backbone of IAF.
> Meanwhile when we've license produced them so obviously they've to be used for next 30-40 years. The best way to use MKI is with much awaited MLUs, Astr-3 SFDR AAM, high stand-off range AGMs. Unless the enemy has shot all BVR-AAMs, the MKI should not come WVR. That's another challenge to find out during battle.

 

[r8rdarklord]

In capitalist nation with high privatisation, the govt. will obviously look bad. NASA has done well & US govt. agencies have done lots of R&D but military products come from private companies. Here ISRO has done well & DRDO does the R&D but i guess we may be drifting towards Western military setup for products.
But living standard in West is far better than here.
If negotiated well then Private sector pays more bcoz they don't give pension & there's no guarantee of gratuity unless someone sticks in a company for 5 years. Many people instead of saving that more money for retirement, waste on overbudgeted things.
Govt. job is supposed to give grade-wise pay, residence, medical facilities, transport, etc which private sector may or may not give, may or may not charge extra. Pvt. Sec. HRs try to dupe & cheat everyone during recruitment.
In Private sector, people can overtake others, which in govt. job could be more tough.

That is incorrect. We contribute to social security, medicaid and medicare. Once I retire I will be paid social security. If you own your home & live conservatively the social security is enough to cover your expenses. Medicaid covers the medical expenses once you retire.

 

[Hari Sud]

That is incorrect. We contribute to social security, medicaid and medicare. Once I retire I will be paid social security. If you own your home & live conservatively the social security is enough to cover your expenses. Medicaid covers the medical expenses once you retire.

Not true….. I am not social security and own everything I have, but need additional income to lead a average life.

 

[vin pahadi (kumauni)]

> The CONTEXT here is the RCS of MKI visible at large distances, in future era of emerging 6gen & us also making a stealth jet like AMCA.
> The RCS increases the PK (Probability of Kill).
The Su-30MKI has been a versatile, strong backbone, deterrent, premium fighter of IAF.
> But in future its big RCS will have to be compensated by LR-AAMs like Astr-3 SFDR. But others are also developing LR-AAMs.
> Some MKIs are upgraded with MAWS, better radar, avionics, SPJ which was done 10 years back on Su-35. Others are also doing such things. So by our delay we have reduced the useful MLUed life by at least 10-15 years.
> MKI's predominant strong point has been TVC. But J-10C also has it & J-20 may also get it. May be other Chinese Flankers will get it.
> Some people are confused on big radar. AESA radar doesn't flash all its TRMs together, but narrow beams in different modes. ofcourse, more TRMs means more advantage in certain way but doesn't mean straight away a better jet overall.
>What Russia is doing with their Su-3X (35, 30SM, etc) to counter EF-2000s, Rafales, Gripen, etc, is not comparable to India's geography, geopolitics, economy, etc. Moreover, they do have Su-75 initiated & can disclose answer to FCAS, GCAP any day.
> Russia, USA, EU are selling their 4gen to fund their 5/6gen projects.
> They themselves will use 4gen as broomers, moppers, with high stand-off weapons, or against weak adversaries in asymmetrical situation where chances of getting shot down, ejection, pilot's death/capture is almost none.
> The recent Indo-Pak clash was a short skirmish. It is easy to hide & deny losses on both sides. In larger scale wars the losses will be more visible to everyone, very difficult to hide/deny.
> If world makes mistakes, should we learn from it or copy those acts again?
> Su-3X is a beautiful jet, even i personaly like it really a lot, but MKI is not our design but modified version. They are the most humpy-bumpy fighters, the eagle has already become turkey, sorry to say that. So sentiments will not help. Progressive self-scrutiny/criticism is needed.
> AMCA should become the new backbone of IAF.
> Meanwhile when we've license produced them so obviously they've to be used for next 30-40 years. The best way to use MKI is with much awaited MLUs, Astr-3 SFDR AAM, high stand-off range AGMs. Unless the enemy has shot all BVR-AAMs, the MKI should not come WVR. That's another challenge to find out during battle.

ur points r valid....if su 30 mki is going near border or enemy space. but now we hv loitering munitions, cruise missiles, MBRL, ballistic missiles for ground attack roles. so su 30 mki dont need to go near border, it can do stand off attacks with brahmos etc.
now its (su 30) real test come in defensive wars in our air space. in that case for su 30 mki help our sam system comes in picture. they "can" create a "no man air space" near border. beside this jamming pods, bvr missiles quality, aesa radar (specially GAN), defensive measure (chaff nd flair quality), pilot training nd talent can help su 30 mki to atleast fight against any 4.5 genration fighters.
i heard IIT ( may be madras) develop two type of RAM coating. first type of coating is cheaper, so it should be applied in su 30 mki nd its weapons. its better to add atleast one R37 M bvr missile should add in all su 30 mki, untill astra 3 comes in picture.

 

[r8rdarklord]

Not true….. I am not social security and own everything I have, but need additional income to lead a average life.

I have no idea about your situation. However, my personal expenditures for food, living expenses, etc, can be taken care of by my social security cheque.