GTRE GTX 35VS Kaveri

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Anonymous Bharata said:
Finally, we are getting it anons

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From the limited information at hand it seems testing will commence on the LCA in 2028 or later. And we're referring to the 73 KN version here. Also why should it take 3 years for integration of Kaveri with LCA is beyond me .

Besides what is the KDE going to be integrated into ? The Ghatak project hasn't been cleared for funding by the CCS up until now .
 
Azaad said:
From the limited information at hand it seems testing will commence on the LCA in 2028 or later. And we're referring to the 73 KN version here. Also why should it take 3 years for integration of Kaveri with LCA is beyond me .

Besides what is the KDE going to be integrated into ? The Ghatak project hasn't been cleared for funding by the CCS up until now .
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They will go very very slow, I guess they will take very long time to complete the taxi trails, only after they gain enough confidence they will go flight testing, one small mishap, baboons will pound on GTRE
 
Azaad said:
From the limited information at hand it seems testing will commence on the LCA in 2028 or later. And we're referring to the 73 KN version here. Also why should it take 3 years for integration of Kaveri with LCA is beyond me .

Besides what is the KDE going to be integrated into ? The Ghatak project hasn't been cleared for funding by the CCS up until now .
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But 2028 is too late, whoever the genius suggested the idea of defunding Kaveri, should drown in Vaitharani river for eternity
 
Man just give ccs approval to ghatak asap
3 years for prototype and then 5 years testing for a new platform and then production
We will get fucked by then
 
liberalredditor said:

View: https://x.com/ShiroBarks/status/1924439693506093476#m

what the fuck is this?? even with covid in between???
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A prototype engine to be complete by 2026, this is not a timeline for when it will enter service. Unveiling shiny new render is not a functional engine. In engine testing phase they will likely see unforeseen issues.

Example: Kaveri engine program started in 1986, prototype began testing in 1996, just 10 years of development. But as you can see Kaveri faced many issues during the testing of actual prototypes, to the point where even by now due to funding issues, Kaveri is still not in service.

Those stupid Turks shouldn’t be getting their hopes up for just starting testing a prototype in 2026.
 
Azaad said:
From the limited information at hand it seems testing will commence on the LCA in 2028 or later. And we're referring to the 73 KN version here. Also why should it take 3 years for integration of Kaveri with LCA is beyond me .

Besides what is the KDE going to be integrated into ? The Ghatak project hasn't been cleared for funding by the CCS up until now .
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Probably because of modification of intakes and sub-systems..

I think GHATAK/RPSA was given CCS approval back in 22/23 and moved the project under PMO/Confidential..

Here, DD also said it was given approval... Could be just slip of toungue but fairly confident that rescent dry test in Russia was for flight worthy RPSA validation.


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liberalredditor said:

View: https://x.com/ShiroBarks/status/1924439693506093476#m

what the fuck is this?? even with covid in between???
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All the developments you’re currently seeing in Turkey regarding aero engines are things India was working on 35 years ago.
They created the same hype around the KAAN fighter jet, claiming it would enter service within a few months. But where is it now? It hasn’t even reached the prototype stage — the aircraft they flew was merely a technology demonstrator.
France took 18 years to bring the Rafale to initial service entry and 23 years for its full operational deployment. It’s hard to believe that Turkey can develop the KAAN in just 5–6 years.
 
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AoN soon for 120 KN AMCA engine?

[ 🔎 S. O. U. R. C. E. S. 🔎 ] 🇮🇳

120 kN desi engine set to fuel #AMCA dream

🎯 Funding was never the true hurdle for indigenous programmes -- it was the absence of a unified will among stakeholders.
🎯 The technological gap in developing a next-generation fighter engine has been meticulously analysed.
🎯 Consultations with major global engine OEMs have been underway for some time -- on a war footing.
🎯 A renewed strategic thrust is now driving the engine mission, with all key domestic partners: GTRE, IAF, CEMILAC and academia onboard.
🎯 A proposal for a 120 kN engine to power the #AMCA, in collaboration with private firms, has reached the pre-sanction stage.
🎯 Senior-most government stakeholders are actively monitoring progress.
🎯 This could emerge as one of India’s most prestigious and high-value military aerospace programmes to date.
🎯 The project sanction file may soon reach a top office for critical review and final approval.
🎯 GTRE's expertise cannot be overlooked and they will be a key player in this new-look prog.
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View: https://x.com/writetake/status/1927078471072632928
 
Kontakt5 said:
A prototype engine to be complete by 2026, this is not a timeline for when it will enter service. Unveiling shiny new render is not a functional engine. In engine testing phase they will likely see unforeseen issues.

Example: Kaveri engine program started in 1986, prototype began testing in 1996, just 10 years of development. But as you can see Kaveri faced many issues during the testing of actual prototypes, to the point where even by now due to funding issues, Kaveri is still not in service.

Those stupid Turks shouldn’t be getting their hopes up for just starting testing a prototype in 2026.
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From what I read in Turkish aviation media and fora and read from posters who sound informed, these 'stupid' - as you term them - Turks have a credible development strategy for developing an engine for their 5G fighter. Their TF6000 (6000 lb dry thrust) engine is in testing and is reported to have been run producing substantially more than 6000 lb of thrust.

Indeed, that engine will not be fully tested for some time. Nor the 10000 lb wet thrust version tagged TF10000 (testing yet to start, I believe).

I have read claims that the TF35000 will be installed in KAAN in 2028. IMO that would be for testing prototypes on the airframe.

My Turkish sources earlier this year speculated that a delay would be announced in the KAAN programme. I presume that referred to certified aircraft delivery to the TuAF in 2028 (with GE engines).
 
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This foreign OEM thing seems so stupid
We dont have any leverage w.r.t critical engine technology so why would any country have govt to govt deal for joint development of high thrust engine?
As per samir V kamat sir we won't be able to use the alloys we developed during R&D if we got for foreign venture
And forget the IP
They will continue to delay and beat around the bush
I say gather talent pool of know how and consider it as national ambition to develop high thrust class engine for amca instead of relying foreign partner.
Creep failure was once of major issues which has been corrected by involving superalloys
 
Spitfire IX said:
From what I read in Turkish aviation media and read from posters who sound informed, these 'stupid' - as you term them - Turks have a credible development strategy for developing an engine for their 5G fighter. Their TF6000 (6000 lb dry thrust) engine is in testing and is reported to have been run producing substantially more than 6000 lb of thrust.

Indeed, that engine will not be fully tested for some time. Nor the 10000 lb wet thrust version tagged TF10000 (testing yet to start, I believe).

I have read claims that the TF35000 will be installed in KAAN in 2028. IMO that would be for testing prototypes on the airframe.

My sources earlier this year speculated that a delay would be announced in the KAAN programme. I presume that referred to certified aircraft delivery to the TuAF in 2028 (with GE engines).
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Turkey is good at PR; India is not. But that doesn’t mean Turkey is ahead of India. Mark my words — you’ll see the GHATAK UCAV flying with the Kaveri engine before you even see a prototype of the Turkish engine undergoing ground tests. India conducted ground testing of the Kaveri engine 35 years ago, and since then, it has undergone multiple trials, including tests on flying testbeds.
 
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