Operation Sindoor and Aftermath

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Pakistan’s Fake Nuclear Leak and U.S. Intervention

On May 10, the final day of Indian missile strikes, Pakistan claimed a radiation leak at its bombed nuclear site near Kirana Hills.

Was it real? ……Highly unlikely. Most evidence suggests the story was fabricated to draw American sympathy—and it worked.

Alarmed, President Trump dispatched a top-secret U.S. aircraft to detect radiation around the site. It found nothing. No radiation, no leak. Yet the false alarm achieved its goal: Trump immediately called for a halt to hostilities, effectively rescuing Pakistan when its military options had run out.

The truth? Still unclear. But it’s widely believed that Pakistan manufactured the leak narrative to force U.S. involvement and secure a ceasefire. India, having gained the upper hand, was denied a full resolution—outmaneuvered by disinformation.

Three days later, Pakistan issued a vague statement about a minor isotopic leak at a different site. A classic bait-and-switch tactic—something Pakistan has practiced for decades, with America often taking the bait for political convenience.
Trump’s reliance on unverified intelligence not only soured ties with Prime Minister Modi but also damaged U.S.-India relations. His claim of playing a major role in halting the strikes angered New Delhi further.

Should India trust Trump-era advisors again? Unlikely. The rift created can only be repaired by a clear initiative from Washington.
 
Quwa Group -> Although to be taken as pinch of salt, this is relatively less partial and more rational(although some part is dubious) and good analysis podcast by Pakistani British 2nd gen analysts who are engineers(1 aerospace, another scientist and so on). Its a must watch and they seem to have lot of inside news.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzrflQPLH_E&pp=ygUKcXV3YSBncm91cNIHCQmyCQGHKiGM7w%3D%3D

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-PQQTXrZyU


Great, now brace yourself for the inevitable barrage of ad hominems.
 
Folks some insight please.

as we saw robust layerd architecture of defense system work in op sindoor.

Does incoming projectile decision taken by completly AI or some human intervention also.

If AI, it means data feeded into AI training modal. Like signature, properties.

So if some object which is new (or ADS dont knw), than what AI do ? ( means which rocket to launch to counter).
Yeah so what people should be wary of is that currently 'AI' is a buzzword infecting every business. The feeling in business circles, especially to do with tech is that you can make the value of your product higher by tagging it as AI.

What it means in this case is most likely it's a Phlanx CIWS automation type system, which doesn't really need AI, it predates it.
 
Everyone is talking about AAD -Akashteer / AI and C2 centre of Air-Defence, why so much bias towards Gunners. We have also given a thumping firepower retaliation to Porkies. Work done by Artillery Networked Integrated system ie our own SHAKTI (ACCS) is not getting recognized, there is feeling of jealous and being left out. :)
Firing solution and 3D simulation of projectile calculated by this system before flattening Neelam valley when Porkies ran for cover deserves recognition. :D
 
Everyone is talking about AAD -Akashteer / AI and C2 centre of Air-Defence, why so much bias towards Gunners. We have also given a thumping firepower retaliation to Porkies. Work done by Artillery Networked Integrated system ie our own SHAKTI (ACCS) is not getting recognized, there is feeling of jealous and being left out. :)
Firing solution and 3D simulation of projectile calculated by this system before flattening Neelam valley when Porkies ran for cover deserves recognition. :D
Absolutely, that and I was also impressed with how well the towed gun positions were camouflaged and protected using HESCO fortifications, based on what was shown in the media later.

There is also chatter about dismal combat performance of PCL-181, is there any substance to these. Also, based on whatever social media videos of their use in POJK were available, looks like the terrain restricts gun deployment quite a bit. They were only deployed and firing from wide valleys.
 
Absolutely, that and I was also impressed with how well the towed gun positions were camouflaged and protected using HESCO fortifications, based on what was shown in the media later.

There is also chatter about dismal combat performance of PCL-181, is there any substance to these. Also, based on whatever social media videos of their use in POJK were available, looks like the terrain restricts gun deployment quite a bit. They were only deployed and firing from wide valleys.
Yes, the terrain is limiting factor for any mounted Gun. We have seen that and experienced it in Galwan conflict . Imagine gun to be mobilized towards Leh, Depsang and DBO. Vajra surprisingly did come in handy. What Pakis thought would be a firepower advantage turned out be nightmare. If the 4x4 vehicle breaks down the gun is useless. If the gun develops fault while firing again its useless. Our Arty pgme is well thought and practical based on our ground and terrain experience.
 
Yes, the terrain is limiting factor for any mounted Gun. We have seen that and experienced it in Galwan conflict . Imagine gun to be mobilized towards Leh, Depsang and DBO. Vajra surprisingly did come in handy. What Pakis thought would be a firepower advantage turned out be nightmare. If the 4x4 vehicle breaks down the gun is useless. If the gun develops fault while firing again its useless. Our Arty pgme is well thought and practical based on our ground and terrain experience.
Pakistan tried blindly copying PLA but they should have considered that PLA deploys these guns mainly on the Tibet Plateau. The terrain there is more suited for mounted guns.
 
Pakistan’s Fake Nuclear Leak and U.S. Intervention

On May 10, the final day of Indian missile strikes, Pakistan claimed a radiation leak at its bombed nuclear site near Kirana Hills.

Was it real? ……Highly unlikely. Most evidence suggests the story was fabricated to draw American sympathy—and it worked.
Just one problem with that assumption. CIA is everywhere inside Porkyland and knows almost every single detail even more than porky themselves because of technology. (Satellites that detect radiation leak also available for civillians)

As far as decieving Americans is concerned, wignats let porky think they outsmarted them just to keep them happy. Afterall a willing and happy puppet is the best puppet there is!
 
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Quwa Group -> Although to be taken as pinch of salt, this is relatively less partial and more rational(although some part is dubious) and good analysis podcast by Pakistani British 2nd gen analysts who are engineers(1 aerospace, another scientist and so on). Its a must watch and they seem to have lot of inside news.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzrflQPLH_E&pp=ygUKcXV3YSBncm91cNIHCQmyCQGHKiGM7w%3D%3D

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-PQQTXrZyU

Lmao you too fell for this new type of chooran porkies are selling. It's not a must watch for any sort of impartial or rational analysis. It's a must watch ONLY if you want to understand how the porkies think.

I listened to one of those two in its entirety. The only rational bit about their 1 hour episode was the brahmos bit that too ONLY because they need to somehow attribute the very public humiliation we dealt to them (the pictures and videos of all the damage we inflicted).

Heres a question, how can you downplay your opponents clear victory without appearing as downplaying? Here's one way: Attribute all their success to one wonder weapon, blame your leadership or spin it as restraint/rational thinking, be obtuse about the success of a couple of the enemies strategy and systems and ultimately just say we have everything the enemy has we just need to scale it up.

This is exactly what they are doing in the "rational" discussion. It's not "some part is dubious", most of it is dubious.
I will tell you what part is not dubious:
1. Effectiveness of brahmos (discussed for quiet a bit)
2. Effectiveness of our AD (discussed but not in detail, totally over looked Akash and DEW and other indian systems, attributing most of AD successes to foreign systems)

What is dubious in their discussion:
1. Their interception rate of drones and loitering munitions we fired (they mention it once something like we fired 24 drones but only 2 hit)
2. They hit a brahmos site and a s400 site
3. At no point they discuss the sheer volume of drones they fired on us
4. No mention of the HQ systems being hit
5. We used our equipment sooner because out plan a and plan b failed to do any significant damage but apparently their responses to our initial attack was enough in some ways.
6. They did not use their top tier equipment (in terms of missiles and drones and loitering munitions) unlike us.
7. No mention if their CM400 or some Chinese origin shit missile that we intercepted
8. Harping on about how they are a wonderful design heavy nation (da fuk they are) but not good into putting their amazing fantastic designs into production.
9. The usual, China saar, China this saar, China that saar.
10. The only two faults porkies did in this conflict is show too much restraint and not show enough evidence of their attack damage.

You fall for this then
1. You are porkie larping as indian or
2. You one of the hundreds of millions of Indians who fall for 2 sweet words but ignore the 1000 insults behind it.
 
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Everyone is talking about AAD -Akashteer / AI and C2 centre of Air-Defence, why so much bias towards Gunners. We have also given a thumping firepower retaliation to Porkies. Work done by Artillery Networked Integrated system ie our own SHAKTI (ACCS) is not getting recognized, there is feeling of jealous and being left out. :)
Firing solution and 3D simulation of projectile calculated by this system before flattening Neelam valley when Porkies ran for cover deserves recognition. :D
Absolutely everything works perfectly that's why we able to finish it in 4-5 days.

But u know joo dikhta hai woh bikta hai :LOL:

Backend kaise kaam kar rahe hai woh koi nhi dekhta.
 
Lmao you too fell for this new type of chooran porkies are selling. It's not a must watch for any sort of impartial or rational analysis. It's a must watch ONLY if you want to understand how the porkies think.

I listened to one of those two in its entirety. The only rational bit about their 1 hour episode was the brahmos bit that too ONLY because they need to somehow attribute the very public humiliation we dealt to them (the pictures and videos of all the damage we inflicted).

Heres a question, how can you downplay your opponents clear victory without appearing as downplaying? Here's one way: Attribute all their success to one wonder weapon, blame your leadership or spin it as restraint/rational thinking, be obtuse about the success of a couple of the enemies strategy and systems and ultimately just say we have everything the enemy has we just need to scale it up.

This is exactly what they are doing in the "rational" discussion. It's not "some part is dubious", most of it is dubious.
I will tell you what part is not dubious:
1. Effectiveness of brahmos (discussed for quiet a bit)
2. Effectiveness of our AD (discussed but not in detail, totally over looked Akash and DEW and other indian systems, attributing most of AD successes to foreign systems)

What is dubious in their discussion:
1. Their interception rate of drones and loitering munitions we fired (they mention it once something like we fired 24 drones but only 2 hit)
2. They hit a brahmos site and a s400 site
3. At no point they discuss the sheer volume of drones they fired on us
4. No mention of the HQ systems being hit
5. We used our equipment sooner because out plan a and plan b failed to do any significant damage but apparently their responses to our initial attack was enough in some ways.
6. They did not use their top tier equipment (in terms of missiles and drones and loitering munitions) unlike us.
7. No mention if their CM400 or some Chinese origin shit missile that we intercepted
8. Harping on about how they are a wonderful design heavy nation (da fuk they are) but not good into putting their amazing fantastic designs into production.
9. The usual, China saar, China this saar, China that saar.
10. The only two faults porkies did in this conflict is show too much restraint and not show enough evidence of their attack damage.

You fall for this then
1. You are porkie larping as indian or
2. You one of the hundreds of millions of Indians who fall for 2 sweet words but ignore the 1000 insults behind it.
I mean of course they aren't going to admit all their shortcomings and try to grasp at positive straws..


Their podcasts are different because pakistanis usually never admit their fears of india

They admit India won

They lay out their fears. A lot of which are beautiful to me hear.

Like this gem here:

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I hope every anxiety patient in here sees this. Domestic production puts fear in enemy hearts. Imports don't.
 
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