Israel x Iran Conflict (150 Viewers)

GaudaNaresh said:
Azeri iranis mostly speak irani. Remember azeri is an ethnicity seperate from language originally because Azerbaijan is actually originally athurpatakan in farsi and initially the turki who settled Azerbaijan and call their turki as azeri were initially different from azeri iranis.
So the whole azeri link is overplayed in irani seperatism, the balochi represent a bigger threat to irani integrity but the biggest risk are the irani kurds- though small in number, they are actually the same language as iraqi kurds and share more kindred stuff and that is where murrica has the most in, now that pakis are gimped by us.
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I'm familiar with the linguistic profile of that region very well. I actually spoke Farsi fairly well couple years back (self learned) and still understand it though don't really practice it as much anymore.
Its like the situation in India in the sense that a Bihari may know Bhojpuri, Maithili, Magahi or some other regional language along with Hindi or a Marathi knows Marathi along with Hindi.

Similarly, Azeris speak a heavily persianized version of Azerbaijani in the rural regions and are fluent but don't prefer Farsi with fellow Azeris, and much like India, usually speak Farsi in the administrative hubs or city zones like Tehran or Ishfahan or one of the bigger cities.
The thing is, even if the Azeri separatism threat is overblown, US, Israel and Azerbaijan collaborating together can make it inflamed over a couple of years.
Kurds are fairly benign though. They just want equal representation of their language in culture in Iran and some autonomy (though, again, intent can change with capability).

Iran isn't in a position to rebuild it's airforce anymore. They should start preparing to lean heavily on their infantry and AD.
These are the only short term fixes which will help it regain it's sovereignty.

If I were an Iranian mullah, I would focus exclusively on numerous cheap, effective AA systems and infantry. Nothing else feasible will keep Israel and US at bay.

Israel can drop a country worth of explosive mass and that wouldn't change shit but if US puts boots on the ground and they Thunder Run to Tehran or even if Israel engineers a successful insurgency, Khamenei will go the Saddam/Gaddafi route.
 
Vinash said:
This guy quotes the Bible to justify his support for Israel against Iran.

Do any of the Indian media outlets have the balls to call the current US dispensation as "Christian nationalist"?


View: https://x.com/GozukaraFurkan/status/1935386509974425920

Imagine a Hindu Politician in India quoting the Bhagavad Gita so openly to justify war, the entire Indian left lobby would be screaming Hindutva Hindutva etc
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till we r under imposed constitution and its version of sickularism no amount of make up can change the essence and fact that it was imposed to wipe us hindus out and atmost makeups will only make it short term benefit at the cost of long term loss n thats why weakening of west at all levels is necessary while looking inwards for our problem

we should find a solution to our problems on our terms ourself instead of one size fits all model imposed on us and it can start with atleast open debate of 360 degree view without censor

maybe we should dig enough dirt of europeans"(earthling eliminators)" and their colonist ambitions and their present day version of it defined for each individual country in particular via continents while using our own names for it like jambudweepa for asia and so on

and todays generation wants change and more of kick in their life and need to make it look cool to raise voice against colonist atrocities like asking royal family of UK to be hanged in public for their crimes against humanity and our version should be their imposed massacres from 1870s and why they east india company transferred to direct rule as 1857 ended long back as it was due to attempt of creating a emperor for bharat from then sringeri swami narasimha bharati for crowning chandranna and the attempt failed( if it suceeded we would have had another karnataka dynasty like vijayanagara kingdom) due to internal betrayals from many places which led to complete population destruction in then many districts of then hassan,mysore,kolar and chikmagalur(sringeri comes there) 95% + population died here atleast( even according to 1881 british census) then and they classify it as el-nino shit n what not and mysore kingdom returned to kings rule who r also subordinates of chandranna( only kingdom britishers gave it back after capturing under subsidiary alliance system in their rule) and to solve this mess they crowned king charles the emperor in 1912.

to create a confusion and ambiguity to escape his assassination plans capital shift from calcutta to delhi happened then and here in south from sringeri to kanchi and many temples had complete destruction wave once more in 1912 even our family run gurukula then in mathighatta stopped( had atleast 1k+ year known history with time from cholas maybe even mauryan empire too as shravanabelagola is just less than 10 kms from there and was rajgurus for hoysala kings too and other than belur only place to have hoysala emblem in temple still) with destruction of temple itself and there were people who were given space to report to britishers if some1 from their families worshipping in temple to got burned in many places atleast in hassan so why hoysala karnataka brahmin families here of hoysala range temples got delinked with temple worship and gurukulas in 1912 mostly in public level.

there r even some stories that during 1912 present day townhall bangalore that hudson church and some other churches of that time which still exist now there in location was the place small infants kidnapped from many surrounding areas and killed to establish king george coronations and we still sing that jana gana mana which was sung at that time for him as national anthem and in simple rajaneeti terms we r still a subsidiary nation under the british empire as that shit is our national anthem and here too.


theoretically we need to delink
1) constitution and its style of 1 size fits all model need to have local problem based ones
2) so called national anthem
3) education in local languages and samskritam so thinking is done in mother tongues only
4) destruction of aadhar card which itself has links to american style foundation name and links and is used to identify people( maybe cleaning of subsidies etc.. r minor benefits to identify and hunt even dissents against government down the line in 10 to 20 years with population game of greens and ambedkarites increasing as then it will be no country to escape too if even 1 wants too if basically caste census with congress style quick poison r bjp style slow poison r both poisons only)
5) basically Intelligence bureau should be dismantled and with the creation of simultaneous one for present day needs( who knows how many time bombs left by british still exist as it was created in 1887 and had shit departments like "DBD(Dirty Bast@rds Department), Lynch, Clean etc.. n whatnot, even in 1950s police department which just maintains normal report data was used to collect and clean then temple gurukulas with govt taking control of temples may be death count for atleast 50,000 gurukulas will be 10 lakh atleast if taken as just 20 per one here different caste people like who used provide flowers, milk, the one who used to clean premises etc.. all r affected not just brahmins and mr ambedkar and nehru although political rivals worked together for their masters plans implementation naa
 
Waanar said:
I'm familiar with the linguistic profile of that region very well. I actually spoke Farsi fairly well couple years back (self learned) and still understand it though don't really practice it as much anymore.
Its like the situation in India in the sense that a Bihari may know Bhojpuri, Maithili, Magahi or some other regional language along with Hindi or a Marathi knows Marathi along with Hindi.

Similarly, Azeris speak a heavily persianized version of Azerbaijani in the rural regions and are fluent but don't prefer Farsi with fellow Azeris, and much like India, usually speak Farsi in the administrative hubs or city zones like Tehran or Ishfahan or one of the bigger cities.
The thing is, even if the Azeri separatism threat is overblown, US, Israel and Azerbaijan collaborating together can make it inflamed over a couple of years.
Kurds are fairly benign though. They just want equal representation of their language in culture in Iran and some autonomy (though, again, intent can change with capability).

Iran isn't in a position to rebuild it's airforce anymore. They should start preparing to lean heavily on their infantry and AD.
These are the only short term fixes which will help it regain it's sovereignty.

If I were an Iranian mullah, I would focus exclusively on numerous cheap, effective AA systems and infantry. Nothing else feasible will keep Israel and US at bay.

Israel can drop a country worth of explosive mass and that wouldn't change shit but if US puts boots on the ground and they Thunder Run to Tehran or even if Israel engineers a successful insurgency, Khamenei will go the Saddam/Gaddafi route.
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best option for iran is to join 72 hoors in jannat(isnt it their dream)while doing maximum damage to US and west they should sink CBG's and destroy middle east bases of us and other western countries, there should also be some economic damage to west in their home by iran since its anyhow going down( unless they survive 1 r 2 waves of amercian aggression for chinese and russian open help to pour in)

rothschield will protect isreal at all costs too(unless its part of plan for greater isreal then can let loose present one)
 
Iron dome has really been tested this time around. The infallibility has been proven wrong. In a war like situation it could easily be overwhelmed by a mid tier power, especially from long range. Especially if any nuclear state tries then it could certainly pulverise Israel. However, you need to keep these plans secret from mossad..
 
raghuram said:
till we r under imposed constitution and its version of sickularism no amount of make up can change the essence and fact that it was imposed to wipe us hindus out and atmost makeups will only make it short term benefit at the cost of long term loss n thats why weakening of west at all levels is necessary while looking inwards for our problem

we should find a solution to our problems on our terms ourself instead of one size fits all model imposed on us and it can start with atleast open debate of 360 degree view without censor

maybe we should dig enough dirt of europeans"(earthling eliminators)" and their colonist ambitions and their present day version of it defined for each individual country in particular via continents while using our own names for it like jambudweepa for asia and so on

and todays generation wants change and more of kick in their life and need to make it look cool to raise voice against colonist atrocities like asking royal family of UK to be hanged in public for their crimes against humanity and our version should be their imposed massacres from 1870s and why they east india company transferred to direct rule as 1857 ended long back as it was due to attempt of creating a emperor for bharat from then sringeri swami narasimha bharati for crowning chandranna and the attempt failed( if it suceeded we would have had another karnataka dynasty like vijayanagara kingdom) due to internal betrayals from many places which led to complete population destruction in then many districts of then hassan,mysore,kolar and chikmagalur(sringeri comes there) 95% + population died here atleast( even according to 1881 british census) then and they classify it as el-nino shit n what not and mysore kingdom returned to kings rule who r also subordinates of chandranna( only kingdom britishers gave it back after capturing under subsidiary alliance system in their rule) and to solve this mess they crowned king charles the emperor in 1912.

to create a confusion and ambiguity to escape his assassination plans capital shift from calcutta to delhi happened then and here in south from sringeri to kanchi and many temples had complete destruction wave once more in 1912 even our family run gurukula then in mathighatta stopped( had atleast 1k+ year known history with time from cholas maybe even mauryan empire too as shravanabelagola is just less than 10 kms from there and was rajgurus for hoysala kings too and other than belur only place to have hoysala emblem in temple still) with destruction of temple itself and there were people who were given space to report to britishers if some1 from their families worshipping in temple to got burned in many places atleast in hassan so why hoysala karnataka brahmin families here of hoysala range temples got delinked with temple worship and gurukulas in 1912 mostly in public level.

there r even some stories that during 1912 present day townhall bangalore that hudson church and some other churches of that time which still exist now there in location was the place small infants kidnapped from many surrounding areas and killed to establish king george coronations and we still sing that jana gana mana which was sung at that time for him as national anthem and in simple rajaneeti terms we r still a subsidiary nation under the british empire as that shit is our national anthem and here too.


theoretically we need to delink
1) constitution and its style of 1 size fits all model need to have local problem based ones
2) so called national anthem
3) education in local languages and samskritam so thinking is done in mother tongues only
4) destruction of aadhar card which itself has links to american style foundation name and links and is used to identify people( maybe cleaning of subsidies etc.. r minor benefits to identify and hunt even dissents against government down the line in 10 to 20 years with population game of greens and ambedkarites increasing as then it will be no country to escape too if even 1 wants too if basically caste census with congress style quick poison r bjp style slow poison r both poisons only)
5) basically Intelligence bureau should be dismantled and with the creation of simultaneous one for present day needs( who knows how many time bombs left by british still exist as it was created in 1887 and had shit departments like "DBD(Dirty Bast@rds Department), Lynch, Clean etc.. n whatnot, even in 1950s police department which just maintains normal report data was used to collect and clean then temple gurukulas with govt taking control of temples may be death count for atleast 50,000 gurukulas will be 10 lakh atleast if taken as just 20 per one here different caste people like who used provide flowers, milk, the one who used to clean premises etc.. all r affected not just brahmins and mr ambedkar and nehru although political rivals worked together for their masters plans implementation naa
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Who would do this?
Modi? Hindus?
We barely come out of our houses let alone dismantle as system that has Hindu blood on its hands since its insception
 
Varzone said:
Iron dome has really been tested this time around. The infallibility has been proven wrong. In a war like situation it could easily be overwhelmed by a mid tier power, especially from long range. Especially if any nuclear state tries then it could certainly pulverise Israel. However, you need to keep these plans secret from mossad..
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It actually from a different perspective helps India too. Now, the CCP cucks will have to think twice if Indian resistance is determined we will rain our ballistic missiles on them. So, it will be a zero sum game for them and back to being American whore. It can be my cope too. A second order effect will be they will handout more missiles to porkies to rain on us. So, We are now linked with Porkies again. Porkies really will be happy as this conflict has raised their valuation as a check on India. Now, I will cope thinking our Drones and hypersonic missiles will be quick to decapitate porkies in the conflict. Porkies are just next door to us with no depth and all their infrastructure in our target range.
 
assassin162 said:
Regarding if Iran falls and gets mainstreamed, it's economy will get revived.

Iran's economic revival and Iran being in same block as Pak will result in Pakistan's economic growth, just by virtue of being neighbours.

Iranian gas and oil pumped and dumped in Pakistan and rubbing effect of a working economy in neighbour will act as boon for Pakistan. Currently, Pakistan is either surrounded by countries which are enemy or with dead economy or a combination of both. Though you can see China also is their neighbour on map, but the real China is thousands of KM's away and its neighbours are Japan, Taiwan and not Pakistan, hell even India is not a proper neighbour of China despite sharing such a big boundary.
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If regime change happens, no administration can assume power in Iran without Israel accepting it's existence. Also the kind of network Israel have in Iran new administration will not be able to function without approval from Israel.

So under no circumstances I see new Iranian administration to be friendly with Pakistan.
 
Varzone said:
Iron dome has really been tested this time around. The infallibility has been proven wrong. In a war like situation it could easily be overwhelmed by a mid tier power, especially from long range. Especially if any nuclear state tries then it could certainly pulverise Israel. However, you need to keep these plans secret from mossad..
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I think Iran have one of the largest stock of BMs.
Do we have any Idea of BMs Pakistan have which can target major Indian cities?
 
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Wayfarer said:
Interesting. And any Hebrew account?
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Apparently he had it but got suspended, according to this article.

www.timesofisrael.com

Khamenei’s day-old Hebrew account on X suspended after threats against Israel

Social media platform does not offer reason for action; profiles run by Iranian supreme leader in other languages with similar content remain active
www.timesofisrael.com www.timesofisrael.com
Article form 28th Oct 2024.

Khamenei’s day-old Hebrew account on X suspended after threats against Israel​

Social media platform does not offer reason for action; profiles run by Iranian supreme leader in other languages with similar content remain active​


Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei’s new Hebrew-language account was suspended from social media platform X on Sunday night, just one day after he opened the account following Israel’s reprisal strikes on Iran over the weekend.

The account was suspended after Khamenei posted a message warning that “The Zionist regime made a mistake” when it decided to retaliate for the October 1 ballistic missile attack carried out by Tehran.

Israel “erred in its calculations on Iran,” the post read. “We will cause it to understand what kind of strength, ability, initiative, and will the Iranian nation has.”


Rules on X, formerly known as Twitter, ban content from “violent and hateful entities,” but the guidelines make an exception for posts from “state or governmental entities.”

There was no immediate comment from X or owner Elon Musk on the matter.

Multiple other accounts operated by Khamenei’s office, including in Persian, Arabic, English, and Bengali, remained active despite sharing similar sentiments to those published on the Hebrew account.


View: https://x.com/khamenei_ir/status/1850472119970197889

A message posted on Khamenei’s English account earlier on Sunday warned that Israelis “still haven’t been able to correctly understand the power initiative, and determination of the Iranian people. We need to make them understand these things.”

That post, and several others like it, amassed more than 14,000 likes and remains online.

Khamenei opened the Hebrew-language account following Israel’s long-awaited retaliatory strike against Iran early Saturday, in which the Israeli Air Force carried out targeted strikes on strategic military sites, including air defense batteries and drone and ballistic missile manufacturing and launch sites.

His first post, published Saturday evening, simply read, “In the name of Allah the merciful and compassionate.”


A screen capture showing Iranian leader Ali Khamenei’s suspended X account, on October 28, 2024. (screen capture: X)
The Iranian supreme leader has a history of publishing posts on X in broken Hebrew, mostly making threats against the Jewish state. Prior to Saturday, however, he had done so on his main account, where items are mainly written in English.

Following the October 1 attack, in which the Islamic Republic fired some 200 ballistic missiles at Israel, Khamenei warned in Hebrew that the “blows of the uprising front will become stronger and more painful on the worn and rotting body of the Zionist regime.”

He is no stranger to being suspended from social media. In February, Meta removed his Facebook and Instagram accounts over his support of the October 7, 2023, Hamas terror onslaught in southern Israel.

AP contributed to this report.
 
Doreamon said:
7 direct impacts recently in Israel from a significant ballistic missiles barrage from Iran .


View: https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1935558704570708381


View: https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1935446765559234602

It suggests the interceptors are running out or Iran lunched some new generation missiles with marv .
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Even the best AD will only have 90% interception rate rest 10% will provide Iranians with what they need. What they need is visuals of damage inflicted to Israeli psychological disposition of invincibility.
These images will boost the morales of all Islamist who have been disappointed with the state of Gaza.

I think there is a possibility that Iran sent out all of its old and less advance missile stock in the first few phases of attack. By doing so they saturated the Israeli AD by rapidly depleting their stocks. Meanwhile Iran probed their AD and devices a plan to inflict damage with more advanced missiles which are coming through now.

Genius if they can prevent the US from blowing up its production line.
 
Tsunami said:
If regime change happens, no administration can assume power in Iran without Israel accepting it's existence. Also the kind of network Israel have in Iran new administration will not be able to function without approval from Israel.

So under no circumstances I see new Iranian administration to be friendly with Pakistan.
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After fall of Iran, the game will be bigger than Israel, the game will be of containing China and even India.
 
Ajayant Tripathi said:
It actually from a different perspective helps India too. Now, the CCP cucks will have to think twice if Indian resistance is determined we will rain our ballistic missiles on them. So, it will be a zero sum game for them and back to being American whore. It can be my cope too. A second order effect will be they will handout more missiles to porkies to rain on us. So, We are now linked with Porkies again. Porkies really will be happy as this conflict has raised their valuation as a check on India. Now, I will cope thinking our Drones and hypersonic missiles will be quick to decapitate porkies in the conflict. Porkies are just next door to us with no depth and all their infrastructure in our target range.
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Rocket Force
Air Defense Force as independent branches....has been in focus for Indian military reforms as well for last decade, though not progressing at the desired rate, especially after Rawat's passing.
By god's grace we are doing fine in these 2 things though.
 
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