Operation Sindoor and Aftermath (112 Viewers)

[Nicky]

So will the Ruskies agree?

India Conditions Su-57E Purchase on Radar Swap, Rattling Russia’s Defence Circles - Defence Security Asia

India’s insistence that Russia must replace key components of the Su-57E stealth fighter—including its radar—with Indian-made systems as a precondition for purchase has reportedly triggered growing concern and dissatisfaction among Moscow’s defence establishment.

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[neelaslayer]

Pakistan surrendered to india.


View: https://x.com/GabbbarSingh/status/1936289513141088729?t=Jein2a4Ix2RzyBGTAnCcMQ&s=19

 

[neelaslayer]

So will the Ruskies agree?

India Conditions Su-57E Purchase on Radar Swap, Rattling Russia’s Defence Circles - Defence Security Asia

India’s insistence that Russia must replace key components of the Su-57E stealth fighter—including its radar—with Indian-made systems as a precondition for purchase has reportedly triggered growing concern and dissatisfaction among Moscow’s defence establishment.

defencesecurityasia.com

Fgfa was cancelled because russia as oem didn't want to give any share of work to india nor provide any source code and fgfa was not even stealth or 5th gen due to no izdeliye 30 engine.

 

[Viper316]

Forces anticipates some misadventure in coming weeks. If US manages to oust current Iranian regime from porki soil, then Munira may get unprecedented access to US defense equipments stationed in the porki air bases.


View: https://x.com/FromGursimran/status/1936285835466621121?t=EY5FrBZfCx79fjvdvy-2wQ&s=19

 

[Varzone]

Lene doh jo bhi Lena hai fir woh J-35 ho ya Patriot. Full training, deployment, unboxing.

Uske baad 4 brahmos fek dono andar.
Moot Diya Tere acquisition par.

 

[Hindaviswarajya]

This confirms a few things, assuming this is true.

1. Pehelgam was planned by the Americans and executed by Pakistanis.
2. Pakistanis were using American nukes to blackmail India, and America was ok with it.
3. India struck the Nur Khan airbase and its underground assets as a retaliation against Pakistan and the US.
4. This also explains why Trump and the US military establishment is annoyed with India.

It always was. CIA plan. I had posted earlier too. Plan was to draw Bharat into long war similar to Russia ukraine and impact economy
Little did they know of our powress and got surprised. We still have not used our full might. I do say our air defence is best in world.
Not to mention our Army. This UK won WW 1 and 2 because of our army only.

Anyways the whole purpose of creating Pak east and west was to have access to arabian sea and bay of Bengal. The partitions was planned years before other players were pawns. Same UK crown council is still part of deep state. So whole purpose of creating Pak was for it to act as irritant to Bharat and bog is down and help in their plan to break or make us weak.That shows confidence of pak and isi to do things it does as they know west will support them. It also explains why they get loans. Any other country in its place would have been bankrupt and broken by now.

Anyways coming to operation sindoor I think we may see act post Israel Iran conflict but what will be it's gosls- destroy more terrorist camps and hapig.or take Pok that is what I m not sure. But do think we willl take PoK(part of full) in this Modi's term itself .

 

[Corvus Splendens]

Lene doh jo bhi Lena hai fir woh J-35 ho ya Patriot. Full training, deployment, unboxing.

Uske baad 4 brahmos fek dono andar.
Moot Diya Tere acquisition par.

See this is why I keep iterating it doesn't matter whether choinese or muricans (rumor engine) provide pakis with 5th gen fighters or air defense systems. There's a limit on how much shit can be peddled to this banana republic for free; and it doesn't help that this joke of a country has laughable indigenous developments and production capacity.

It also doesn't help that their strategic gan..depth is so shallow their entire country is under standoff munitions range, without any credible ABM capability. Whatever token acquisitions they make, will be simply overwhelmed by saturated all aspect superior firepower.​

 

[Nicky]

Fgfa was cancelled because russia as oem didn't want to give any share of work to india nor provide any source code and fgfa was not even stealth or 5th gen due to no izdeliye 30 engine.

No one will provide source code. Integration with our systems and local production is the best you are going to get for a tech you didn't develop.

 

[Viper316]

Will pak army accept this as new normal or beg to doland trump to release water

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/india-says-it-will-never-restore-indus-water-treaty-with-pakistan-2025-06-21/?taid=6856669205ecbb00018d4d46&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

 

[RocketMan]

Benefits of not destroying the PAF & PN.

Alhamdulillah!

They will have to strike pre emptively either simultaneously when a terrorist attack is happening in India or immediately after otherwise it's game over for them once Modi publicly declared they'd be targeted.

What sort of clown would make such an ill advised strategy? I'm beginning to believe that ASS-I-M Munir's advisers are RAA agents.

 

[Savageking456]

View: https://x.com/Reuters/status/1936333342309233135?t=VuOSpraRtl9UbgFvzPTtxw&s=19
Remember folks "never ever bring back this treaty,terroristan must pay"

 

[Savageking456]

then we are going to war.

So be it,i remember i used to discuss this on DFI(now discontinued) on the india-pak conflict thread that what PAK used to think is they could kill small number of Indian soldier and civilians on daily basis and negate any Indian response thinking "modi military" will attack,only when say 40 Indian soldiers are killed
After pahalgam this has changed,any terror attack will be met with strongest response and terroristan military suffered casualties right from lahore to pindi
The usual paki awam who used to live freely at the cost of innocent Indian lives would suffer through IWT.

 

[concard]

If this news is true, then we have a favorable situation on our hands.

Airbus says dispute with Dassault is threatening fighter jet project

Company says politicians may need to resolve impasse over governance of Europe’s biggest defence project

www.ft.com

If Dassault goes solo in their FCAS program, then they will look for more opportunity to export Rafales. 6th generation fighter project will cost lot of money, give or take minimum 30 billion Euros just for research nd development. Dassault will scrape every penny possible through Rafale sales. Whether the recent developments of them exporting fuselage production to TASL and Falcon private jet production to Reliance aerostructures has anything to do with expecting more orders is anyone's guess.

Dassault will definitely look for more orders and likely for joint development of Jet Engines for our 5th generation program. Let us see whether they break with Germans to go solo. Rafale was also born out of the same disagreements. We can't rule out the same happening again.

 

[Noob_Saibot]

Fgfa was cancelled because russia as oem didn't want to give any share of work to india nor provide any source code and fgfa was not even stealth or 5th gen due to no izdeliye 30 engine.

Which was not the smartest thing to do, strategically. We should have negotiated, haggled and twisted their arm to stay in the programme, instead of throwing a hissy fit and throw our toys out of the pram.

We would be currently flying a couple of squadrons of a 5th gen fighter, had we stayed in the programme and worked with the Ruskies.

CAATSA etc would not have been an issue as well.

 

[shade2]

View: https://x.com/Reuters/status/1936333342309233135?t=VuOSpraRtl9UbgFvzPTtxw&s=19
Remember folks "never ever bring back this treaty,terroristan must pay"

Absolutely Based.

 

[Azaad]

If this news is true, then we have a favorable situation on our hands.

Airbus says dispute with Dassault is threatening fighter jet project

Company says politicians may need to resolve impasse over governance of Europe’s biggest defence project

www.ft.com

If Dassault goes solo in their FCAS program, then they will look for more opportunity to export Rafales. 6th generation fighter project will cost lot of money, give or take minimum 30 billion Euros just for research nd development. Dassault will scrape every penny possible through Rafale sales. Whether the recent developments of them exporting fuselage production to TASL and Falcon private jet production to Reliance aerostructures has anything to do with expecting more orders is anyone's guess.

Dassault will definitely look for more orders and likely for joint development of Jet Engines for our 5th generation program. Let us see whether they break with Germans to go solo. Rafale was also born out of the same disagreements. We can't rule out the same happening again.

I believe the development costs are either 100 billion Euros per party or 100 billion Euros consolidated to be split equally between all member countries.

The French members over at Strat Front believe DA will eventually go solo. It's just waiting for Macron to relinquish office. Till then they will continue with this charade.

Ideally what you say is true but the French have a different perspective. They've already amortised the costs of development of the Rafales. They're now reaping in the surplus.

As far as the FCAS goes that's still in the future . All these calculations will be done once they have decided to opt out of a collaboration. That's still some time away meaning time is a luxury we can't afford. Neither can the French but they haven't realised that yet.

 

[Knowitall]

Forces anticipates some misadventure in coming weeks. If US manages to oust current Iranian regime from porki soil, then Munira may get unprecedented access to US defense equipments stationed in the porki air bases.


View: https://x.com/FromGursimran/status/1936285835466621121?t=EY5FrBZfCx79fjvdvy-2wQ&s=19

Modi was played for a fool and for once i cannot help but realise it was literally not his fault.

Fucking polymarket and X detected Israeli movements towards a strike on Iran and you are telling me our NSA could not analyse that USA would come running and recommend inflicting maximum damage in the limited timeframe we had.

Because even with maximum damage US would have reined the whole thing due to their regime change op in Iran which has been on the cards since a decade.

MEA as always sold the nation. What a retarded statement Pakistani DGMO called us and we agreed to a ceasefire. Waah re gadho tomorrow beech war me he will stay stop and you will gladly return back to India.

Don’t even get me started on the whole post OP conference that never came. Makes me wonder if MEA bent the knee here too after uncle sam asked them to not leak details of damage done.

Entire govt was taken on a ride by compromised MEA and NSA.

 

[sunnyv]

It always was. CIA plan. I had posted earlier too. Plan was to draw Bharat into long war similar to Russia ukraine and impact economy
Little did they know of our powress and got surprised. We still have not used our full might. I do say our air defence is best in world.
Not to mention our Army. This UK won WW 1 and 2 because of our army only.

Anyways the whole purpose of creating Pak east and west was to have access to arabian sea and bay of Bengal. The partitions was planned years before other players were pawns. Same UK crown council is still part of deep state. So whole purpose of creating Pak was for it to act as irritant to Bharat and bog is down and help in their plan to break or make us weak.That shows confidence of pak and isi to do things it does as they know west will support them. It also explains why they get loans. Any other country in its place would have been bankrupt and broken by now.

Anyways coming to operation sindoor I think we may see act post Israel Iran conflict but what will be it's gosls- destroy more terrorist camps and hapig.or take Pok that is what I m not sure. But do think we willl take PoK(part of full) in this Modi's term itself .

No not CIA. It had something to do with 100 Paki Uniformed Men in Jaffar Express who were 72horrified. Pehlgam was Complete planning of ISI with help of China. Infiltration was already done in Peak winter, and Reccee was done in Feb+March after Train Hijack incident. Sat intel provided by chinese and encrypted satcom devices with custom made Huawei devices all imported from China. Intel sharing was done by CIA of incoming attack in march to Indian agencies. China wanted India to get involved in long conflict.
CIA thought conflict would be limited to POJ and POK. But when IAF started hitting Jacocabad, Sukur and especially RYK then US administration got worried as those 3 were part of Iran Plan. US admin has told Indian channels to tell Indian Intel to reduce the footprint in Baloch land. This is what is the sore point of Indian and US diplomacy. No assurance of Indian concerns. Purely Strategic and Business interest of US while India feels its interest are getting negated. This is a game of Tug of War being played in Disputed region of Balochistan between India, CHINA and US. India has strategic interests. China has business interests. US has both. And Pakis are Whores who anyone can fuck at their will.
Regards. Jai Hind

 

[concard]

I believe the development costs are either 100 billion Euros per party or 100 billion Euros consolidated to be split equally between all member countries.

The French members over at Strat Front believe DA will eventually go solo. It's just waiting for Macron to relinquish office. Till then they will continue with this charade.

Ideally what you say is true but the French have a different perspective. They've already amortised the costs of development of the Rafales. They're now reaping in the surplus.

As far as the FCAS goes that's still in the future . All these calculations will be done once they have decided to opt out of a collaboration. That's still some time away meaning time is a luxury we can't afford. Neither can the French but they haven't realised that yet.

I was quoting the bare minimum which is required to even build a decent prototype. Like you said it costs a bomb eventually with production and assembly lines all included. I don't think French government have that kind of money to give it to just one project while sacrificing other projects. Their pension system will collapse by 2040 at the earliest. Their retirement age was very low at 62 which they changed to 64. Most countries in Europe are slowly rising the retirement age to 70 as their system is at a breaking point with more people taking money out of the system than paying into it. So even retiring at 64 is very generous compared to other European countries. Let's not forget France is a trade deficit country.

France Trade Deficit Largest in 7 Months

France’s trade deficit widened to €8 billion in April 2025 from an upwardly revised €6.3 billion in March, exceeding market expectations of a €6 billion gap. This marks the largest trade shortfall since last September, as exports dropped 5.9% month-over-month to €49.3 billion, weighed down by a...

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They somewhat make it up with tourism industry which balances out. All in all French government does not have much money to shell out to Dassault. Rafale took it's first flight in 1986. It took a good 25 years to mature itself as a fighter. Now the scenario is very different. They don't have the luxury of waiting 25 years to build a reliable and mature 6th generation fighter which itself is a arduous task. Again quoting you time is a luxury neither we or the French have at the moment. They need money and they need it fast.

We need to make a move at the right time. First and foremost, either they share the source code or they modify the source code so that we can integrate our missiles into Rafale. After that we should test our waters and see whether they can deliver 54 Rafales which is 3 squadrons by 2028 at the earliest. For this they need to open new production line. If they need to deliver jets fast then they need to outsource some manufacturing to others like TASL. I hope GoI realises we need extra 54 Rafales to supplement our strength with Mig-21s done and dusted.

 

[shade2]

Modi was played for a fool and for once i cannot help but realise it was literally not his fault.

He's not played for a fool, he was threatened by the Orange Ape playing Bad Cop and our Yahoodi frens playing Good Cop to spare their Raand Pakistan or else the Orange baboon will chimp out with tariffs, sanctions and embargoes.

Our guy anyway didn't plan for Op Sindoor to be a long Final Solution to the Pakistani Question, he too wanted a ceasefire and not get pulled in too deep so as to not have the Ekanami impacted

Unfortunately the Amerisharts intervened before we could blast the piglets appropriately.

MEA, standard babooze and uniforms may all be sold out but our Leaderji isn't, however he cares about the ekanami far too much and this weakness is exploited by Amerisharts and Chings.

Pakis will give us a 2nd chance in the future i'm sure to finish what Op Sindoor started