Operation Sindoor and Aftermath (75 Viewers)

[Varzone]

Bkl wapis start karo op sindoor…. And to those who said that objectives were achieved, why Modi said it is operation is still ongoing?

Launch and dismantle all ballistic missiles like Israel is doing.

 

[RoaringTigerHiddenDragon]

We didn't even claim we hit specific structures in the air bases and hint at damages of air assets. That's dumb.

Babus don't think about communication and it's impact in the SM era.

IAF said something like “it is our job to only hit targets and not do BDA” . That was a horrible statement to make. Have you seen any other capable AF around the world that makes such statements? IAF needs to be made more professional and hi-tech and full of fighting spirit. Of course damage assessment is a key requirement of modern air wars. The thing that annoys me is they think they have won brownie points by saying things like that. They do not understand the importance of strategic communications. They are acting like a government office chai-paani department. Indian military needs a professional PR department. Genrols are not good PR people. We saw that with IAF AVM and the CDS. The DGMO was so much better. Identify such people and put them in charge of joint PR for all 3 forces.

 

[RoaringTigerHiddenDragon]

Bkl wapis start karo op sindoor…. And to those who said that objectives were achieved, why Modi said it is operation is still ongoing?

Launch and dismantle all ballistic missiles like Israel is doing.

Op Sindoor objective must be to establish permanent deterrence to prevent Porki Army and its terrorist battalions from ever striking Indians within India in any capacity. Every infiltration attempt needs to be treated as an act of war. I dont think Modi and the CCS are thinking this way. That is a giant problem.

 

[Nicky]

So will the Ruskies agree?

India Conditions Su-57E Purchase on Radar Swap, Rattling Russia’s Defence Circles - Defence Security Asia

India’s insistence that Russia must replace key components of the Su-57E stealth fighter—including its radar—with Indian-made systems as a precondition for purchase has reportedly triggered growing concern and dissatisfaction among Moscow’s defence establishment.

defencesecurityasia.com

 

[neelaslayer]

Pakistan surrendered to india.


View: https://x.com/GabbbarSingh/status/1936289513141088729?t=Jein2a4Ix2RzyBGTAnCcMQ&s=19

 

[neelaslayer]

So will the Ruskies agree?

India Conditions Su-57E Purchase on Radar Swap, Rattling Russia’s Defence Circles - Defence Security Asia

India’s insistence that Russia must replace key components of the Su-57E stealth fighter—including its radar—with Indian-made systems as a precondition for purchase has reportedly triggered growing concern and dissatisfaction among Moscow’s defence establishment.

defencesecurityasia.com

Fgfa was cancelled because russia as oem didn't want to give any share of work to india nor provide any source code and fgfa was not even stealth or 5th gen due to no izdeliye 30 engine.

 

[Viper316]

Forces anticipates some misadventure in coming weeks. If US manages to oust current Iranian regime from porki soil, then Munira may get unprecedented access to US defense equipments stationed in the porki air bases.


View: https://x.com/FromGursimran/status/1936285835466621121?t=EY5FrBZfCx79fjvdvy-2wQ&s=19

 

[Varzone]

Lene doh jo bhi Lena hai fir woh J-35 ho ya Patriot. Full training, deployment, unboxing.

Uske baad 4 brahmos fek dono andar.
Moot Diya Tere acquisition par.

 

[Hindaviswarajya]

This confirms a few things, assuming this is true.

1. Pehelgam was planned by the Americans and executed by Pakistanis.
2. Pakistanis were using American nukes to blackmail India, and America was ok with it.
3. India struck the Nur Khan airbase and its underground assets as a retaliation against Pakistan and the US.
4. This also explains why Trump and the US military establishment is annoyed with India.

It always was. CIA plan. I had posted earlier too. Plan was to draw Bharat into long war similar to Russia ukraine and impact economy
Little did they know of our powress and got surprised. We still have not used our full might. I do say our air defence is best in world.
Not to mention our Army. This UK won WW 1 and 2 because of our army only.

Anyways the whole purpose of creating Pak east and west was to have access to arabian sea and bay of Bengal. The partitions was planned years before other players were pawns. Same UK crown council is still part of deep state. So whole purpose of creating Pak was for it to act as irritant to Bharat and bog is down and help in their plan to break or make us weak.That shows confidence of pak and isi to do things it does as they know west will support them. It also explains why they get loans. Any other country in its place would have been bankrupt and broken by now.

Anyways coming to operation sindoor I think we may see act post Israel Iran conflict but what will be it's gosls- destroy more terrorist camps and hapig.or take Pok that is what I m not sure. But do think we willl take PoK(part of full) in this Modi's term itself .

 

[Corvus Splendens]

Lene doh jo bhi Lena hai fir woh J-35 ho ya Patriot. Full training, deployment, unboxing.

Uske baad 4 brahmos fek dono andar.
Moot Diya Tere acquisition par.

See this is why I keep iterating it doesn't matter whether choinese or muricans (rumor engine) provide pakis with 5th gen fighters or air defense systems. There's a limit on how much shit can be peddled to this banana republic for free; and it doesn't help that this joke of a country has laughable indigenous developments and production capacity.

It also doesn't help that their strategic gan..depth is so shallow their entire country is under standoff munitions range, without any credible ABM capability. Whatever token acquisitions they make, will be simply overwhelmed by saturated all aspect superior firepower.​

 

[Nicky]

Fgfa was cancelled because russia as oem didn't want to give any share of work to india nor provide any source code and fgfa was not even stealth or 5th gen due to no izdeliye 30 engine.

No one will provide source code. Integration with our systems and local production is the best you are going to get for a tech you didn't develop.

 

[Viper316]

Will pak army accept this as new normal or beg to doland trump to release water

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/india-says-it-will-never-restore-indus-water-treaty-with-pakistan-2025-06-21/?taid=6856669205ecbb00018d4d46&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

 

[RocketMan]

Benefits of not destroying the PAF & PN.

Alhamdulillah!

They will have to strike pre emptively either simultaneously when a terrorist attack is happening in India or immediately after otherwise it's game over for them once Modi publicly declared they'd be targeted.

What sort of clown would make such an ill advised strategy? I'm beginning to believe that ASS-I-M Munir's advisers are RAA agents.

 

[Savageking456]

View: https://x.com/Reuters/status/1936333342309233135?t=VuOSpraRtl9UbgFvzPTtxw&s=19
Remember folks "never ever bring back this treaty,terroristan must pay"

 

[Simon Riley]

View: https://x.com/Reuters/status/1936333342309233135?t=VuOSpraRtl9UbgFvzPTtxw&s=19
Remember folks "never ever bring back this treaty,terroristan must pay"

then we are going to war.

 

[Savageking456]

then we are going to war.

So be it,i remember i used to discuss this on DFI(now discontinued) on the india-pak conflict thread that what PAK used to think is they could kill small number of Indian soldier and civilians on daily basis and negate any Indian response thinking "modi military" will attack,only when say 40 Indian soldiers are killed
After pahalgam this has changed,any terror attack will be met with strongest response and terroristan military suffered casualties right from lahore to pindi
The usual paki awam who used to live freely at the cost of innocent Indian lives would suffer through IWT.

 

[concard]

If this news is true, then we have a favorable situation on our hands.

Airbus says dispute with Dassault is threatening fighter jet project

Company says politicians may need to resolve impasse over governance of Europe’s biggest defence project

www.ft.com

If Dassault goes solo in their FCAS program, then they will look for more opportunity to export Rafales. 6th generation fighter project will cost lot of money, give or take minimum 30 billion Euros just for research nd development. Dassault will scrape every penny possible through Rafale sales. Whether the recent developments of them exporting fuselage production to TASL and Falcon private jet production to Reliance aerostructures has anything to do with expecting more orders is anyone's guess.

Dassault will definitely look for more orders and likely for joint development of Jet Engines for our 5th generation program. Let us see whether they break with Germans to go solo. Rafale was also born out of the same disagreements. We can't rule out the same happening again.

 

[Noob_Saibot]

Fgfa was cancelled because russia as oem didn't want to give any share of work to india nor provide any source code and fgfa was not even stealth or 5th gen due to no izdeliye 30 engine.

Which was not the smartest thing to do, strategically. We should have negotiated, haggled and twisted their arm to stay in the programme, instead of throwing a hissy fit and throw our toys out of the pram.

We would be currently flying a couple of squadrons of a 5th gen fighter, had we stayed in the programme and worked with the Ruskies.

CAATSA etc would not have been an issue as well.

 

[shade2]

View: https://x.com/Reuters/status/1936333342309233135?t=VuOSpraRtl9UbgFvzPTtxw&s=19
Remember folks "never ever bring back this treaty,terroristan must pay"

Absolutely Based.

 

[Azaad]

If this news is true, then we have a favorable situation on our hands.

Airbus says dispute with Dassault is threatening fighter jet project

Company says politicians may need to resolve impasse over governance of Europe’s biggest defence project

www.ft.com

If Dassault goes solo in their FCAS program, then they will look for more opportunity to export Rafales. 6th generation fighter project will cost lot of money, give or take minimum 30 billion Euros just for research nd development. Dassault will scrape every penny possible through Rafale sales. Whether the recent developments of them exporting fuselage production to TASL and Falcon private jet production to Reliance aerostructures has anything to do with expecting more orders is anyone's guess.

Dassault will definitely look for more orders and likely for joint development of Jet Engines for our 5th generation program. Let us see whether they break with Germans to go solo. Rafale was also born out of the same disagreements. We can't rule out the same happening again.

I believe the development costs are either 100 billion Euros per party or 100 billion Euros consolidated to be split equally between all member countries.

The French members over at Strat Front believe DA will eventually go solo. It's just waiting for Macron to relinquish office. Till then they will continue with this charade.

Ideally what you say is true but the French have a different perspective. They've already amortised the costs of development of the Rafales. They're now reaping in the surplus.

As far as the FCAS goes that's still in the future . All these calculations will be done once they have decided to opt out of a collaboration. That's still some time away meaning time is a luxury we can't afford. Neither can the French but they haven't realised that yet.