Indian Air Force: News & Discussions (7 Viewers)

Ajatshatru said:
BrahMos-2 hypersonic cruise missile costs around $12.5 million per unit, suitable for high-value targets like enemy airbases, warships, or air defense systems, it’s not cost-effective for destroying rag tag militias. What India needs is the GHATAK UCAV, which can conduct precision bombing missions against militant infrastructure in Pakistan—similar to how U.S. has effectively used Predator drones to eliminate militant targets in the region.
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Also, GHATAK UCAV is powered by indigenously developed Kaveri engine, which eliminates any concerns about American sanctions or foreign dependencies for these unmanned combat aircraft.
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R we making brahmos 2 ??? i dont think we r going for that project, coz we r developing our own hypersonic missile (vishnu). so two costly missile program dont make sense. we can buy zircon in some number, if our hypersonic missile take more time.
we also dont know about brahmos NG program update. which is very important program. it will give us flexibility to equip two brahmos ng in our tejas mark 1a. that will gave our tejas mark 1a capability to attack ground targets from secure distance (300 km). su 30 mki will also equip 3-5 brahmos ng. this brahmos NG is better cheaper option than regular brahmos, to attack terrorist hideout in pakistan. coz regular brahmos is overkill to attack terrorist hideout in pakistan.
we can also add much cheaper subsonic desi ITCM or nirbhay missiles to saturate enemy SAM system. hope we also make ITCM air launched nd mini version like brahmos ng.
beside this we hv many cheaper convintional ballistic missiles also. like prithvi (1,2,3), shaurya, prahaar nd pralay. which is cheaper option than current brahmos.
 
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concard said:
If this news is true, then we have a favorable situation on our hands.

www.ft.com

Airbus says dispute with Dassault is threatening fighter jet project

Company says politicians may need to resolve impasse over governance of Europe’s biggest defence project
www.ft.com www.ft.com

If Dassault goes solo in their FCAS program, then they will look for more opportunity to export Rafales. 6th generation fighter project will cost lot of money, give or take minimum 30 billion Euros just for research nd development. Dassault will scrape every penny possible through Rafale sales. Whether the recent developments of them exporting fuselage production to TASL and Falcon private jet production to Reliance aerostructures has anything to do with expecting more orders is anyone's guess.

Dassault will definitely look for more orders and likely for joint development of Jet Engines for our 5th generation program. Let us see whether they break with Germans to go solo. Rafale was also born out of the same disagreements. We can't rule out the same happening again.
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Arre Froggies ka roz ka hai, they did Sem2sem with the Eurofighter program, which is why you have the Rafale.

Basically they cannot into cooperation or collaboration, French AF/Navy requirements are patthar ki lakheer which they don't compromise with, and they pull this after getting the fruits of collaborative R&D and expense sharing of course :troll:

If we become a ((( partner ))) they will be sem2sem with us, won't agree to add in our requirements to the project, won't share the good shit technology but entitledly ask us to pay up 50% of the project cost.

If it's only for engines like you say then it is ok but they will try to scam us like that also.

However good catch, this explains why they are dangling so many carrots in front of us to score a Rafale contract.

The babooze concerned should drive our advantage and have these snail-enjoyers integrate all 3 Astra missiles and 3 rudra missiles for a specific cost mentioned on the contract onleee
 
Tsunami said:
This wasn't a spy mission... Luneburg lens were used. British AC is here for 8 month mission and doing exercises with us. Plane was simply preforming regular sortie. Bad weather forced him to land on ground.
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Luneburg lens when spying??? ROL
 
concard said:
After Rafale, there is not much in the way of any new big projects for Dassault. Yes, there is that 6th generation fighter project with Germany FCAS. But it will be a sinkhole for both the countries given how much money is needed for research and development. UK did the same mistake of going alone initially with their Tempest program only for them capitulate later and bring in Japan and Italy to share the costs. There is a possibility even Sweden might join as well later on.

Germany and France don't have much money to pour into military let alone on new fighter program. France had to increase their retirement age few months ago to try to avert a collapse of their pension system which led to riots. And Germany is grappling with problems of it's own after Ukraine war with rising energy costs. Even in the best case scenario it will cost them 50 billion Euros for R & D. Building manufacturing and assembly line will cost extra. Yes, Dassault is looking for long order book. If we play our cards right, we can get something here. I am really in favor of 3 more squadrons of Rafale with the condition they share their source code to integrate our own weapons.
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Mmm... UK from the start said it would need partner(s) to go ahead with Tempest. It got 2. Development and production yes/no decision scheduled for this year IIRC.
 
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liberalredditor said:
i think the pilot defected and we aint allowing the lockheed engineers by not giving them visa, so the brit f35 is now ours

congrats f35 dalals you won
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It’s been 8 days and that British F-35 is still chilling in India. I heard the hydraulics are not working, and apparently now it needs a trip to an Indian Air Force hangar—for refueling and repairs!
 
Ajatshatru said:
India manufactures Su-30MKI domestically from scratch, but it still pays royalties to Russia for the intellectual property rights. The Indian-made Su-30MKI is significantly different from the original Russian version. The upcoming batch of 12 ‘Super Sukhoi’ aircraft will be equipped with the indigenous UTTAM AESA radar, and the existing Su-30MKI fleet will also be upgraded with this radar. UTTAM is a GaN-based AESA radar, which offers superior power efficiency, extended range, and better target acquisition compared to the GaAs radar currently used in the Rafale. India had considered integrating the UTTAM radar into the Rafale as well, but the plan was eventually shelved due to high integration costs and potential delays.
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You don't manufacture your Su30 at 100%.
The engine are not fully made in India, as the radar or the electro optical system if I remember well.

Super Su30 : When really built, you may expect a big increase in radar range, somthing than can balance the high RCS of the bird. Radar range also interesting if you have long range AAM.

UTTAM on Rafale : no, for several reasons :
-You have to make all the anechoic chamber tests. A big task.
-All the sensor fusion fine tune is to be made another time.
-You have to be sure not to create perturbations of SPectra for exemple. Hard and touchy.
-Do the UTAAM have a space in its middle so as to accomodate the electro optical OSF sytem? sure no.
etc...
 
Nibbler said:
Ser pls Explain to someone who doesn't want to read a long twz article pls
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As you can see in article pic, J-35 Canopy hinge opens from front like F35.
Porky pilot is sitting in something whose canopy opens from hinge at the behind.

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why doesnt the su57 have radar absorbing paint like f22, f35, j20 and j35 and other grey paint aircrafts have? did vodkaland make some materials advancement that they can have colorful paints which have good absorbing capability
 
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