Israel x Iran Conflict (130 Viewers)

[maximus777]

Too good

Whether big D gets the Nobel or not is yet to be seen, but Pak has gained his goodwill, and they will have a soft corner for the rest of his 3.5 years term. Pak is unkil's favorite randi in the brothel called Pakistan - the land of the pure gentleman's club!

 

[Corvus Splendens]

 

[Muzh]

As United States has decided to take the confrontationalist route, time is ripe for such a test. India doesn't makes the 12-14k ICBM solely because of the potential reaction of USA. It made ICBM's capable of hitting most of Europe only by taking the cover that it is making that to tackle China (Lulz) and China has repeatedly told the world that the actual range of our Agni V is not 5k km but much more, but definitely it won't reach USA.

So it should be made under cover and tested when the world is in chaos and we are not having the best of our relations with US, that is the situation like as it is now....

Should have already planned this out.

Like relation with US won't slide much more in such a case, rather on the upside maybe US can think we have to take India along or something else, like jo hua so hua, they will reasses their policy for the time being.

I do not have the insider information but I think ICBMs can be tested in stages; you can adjust the distance by making it go higher up in the space; higher up it goes lower the land distance it can cover. Although, if someone is monitoring it, they would be able to tell the true potential range. I think that is how China knew that the actual range of Agni-5 was 8k-12k KM not 5k KM.

 

[snakeeyes07]

I guess Iran still has some sort of a blackmail card to play. Imagine if this mullah regime had actual nukes instead of potential dirty ones.


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[Muzh]

Murican's sent B-2s west to guam to send a message a attack is on the way in next 26-30 hours and sent another package on east which reached in 18 hours ,
(IAF didn't send decoy package in different time lines , just sent one batch of fighters south along with some from IN and sent the main strike package and still got lost 3 Birds )

They did proper SEAD/DEAD and got the bombing run done with zero damage to their assets (IAF took surprises instead with PL-15E and HQ-9 and came back )

I am not saying IAF copied tactics from Murican's . At least the murican's are not as stupid to do half baked operation tactics and then try to redo with new ROE after 48 hours .

India's attack tactics were slightly more advanced. I am talking about the tactics themselves and not necessarily the toys (hardware) involved. India used specialized unmanned aircrafts as decoys; these decoy aircrafts mimicked the electronic signatures of Rafales, Su30MKIs, and other IAF aircrafts. After the decoys were dispatched, manned IAF aircrafts were dispatched to carry out raids on terrorist locations inside Pakistan. Pakistanese downed the decoys and thought they downed Indian Air Force's Rafales, Su30MKIs, etc. This was a brilliant tactic.

Iran almost had no air defense. So what SEAD/DEAD do you think USAF carried out and against what? You are basically comparing apples and oranges. Your attempt to draw a parallel between India - Pakistan & Iran - Israel/USA conflicts is absurd.

There is nothing wrong with any armed forces copying the successful tactics of others. USA copies India's tactics. India copies USA tactics. That is the way it goes. I gave you a good example in Operation Anaconda of US army in Afghanistan. This was a carbon copy of an attack carried out by Indian army against Pakistanese artillery position which was heavily defended in the front by guns of numerous caliber and by a more than 1K M vertical cliff in the back. Indian army climbed the cliff and attacked Pakistanese from the behind. Pakistanese could not even fathom the idea of Indian army climbing the 1K+ M vertical cliff and assaulting them from the behind. Later on this tactic was used by US army in Afghanistan; only difference was, the cliff that US army climbed was not as high as the one climbed by Indian army.

 

[Psacha123]

Bibi wants round 2. Will he get it?


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[Ajayant Tripathi]

So, 6 Bombers each carry two MOPs and a total of 12 MOPs were dropped on Fordow Facility. Satellite Imagery shows 6 Entry points in total in two clusters of 3 each.
6 Entry Points 12 Bombs. I think thats enough firepower to shake the mountain and destroy the internal infrastructure. No Way Fordow is online. Its lost permanently. But lack of a visible crater is curious and bizarre.





So, One B2 flew here too and dropped two bombs here too.



It should have been left with yahoodis.

 

[rock127]

Full chaddi shivering/randi rona/frustration/bad mouthing by Pakijeets as they can't do a shit. Roughly 3,000 pages of it with 2.5 million views. From aggression to sadness and helplessness, despair and self LOATHING.... emotions running high!

If some American tells them some plain truth/facts, then Pakijeets reply with abuses. Abusing is a sign of losing an argument when no logical reply is left. Funny is he puts avatar of a DUMB Paki Aaaand Folces "officer" who think he won the war recent war due to "Santer of Glavity" statement which impressed his IQ 10 awaam!

It's no coincidence that just 2 days after FAILED MARSHAL Mulla Munir had a tasty PORK CURRY lunch with TRUMP, this long awaited US direct bombing came into action. Trump trolled everyone giving a 2 week deadline when everything was decided slurping Pork Curry in lunch with FAILED MARSHAL Mulla Munir who is officially a PALTU Kutta of TRUMP.

Shia Iran's game is over.... thanks to backstabber SUNNI Pakistan.

Thanks to FAILED MARSHAL Mulla Munir making it quick. Pork Curry was FANTASTIC!




These Pakijeets can't do anything other than death to this and that. Pak leaders are Jew ass kisser! Their leaders have given them nothing but HUMILIATION in the name of religion and Kashmir!

 

[raghuram]

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Independent minds like Vivek, who didn't had any weaknesses that deep state would have exploited were sidelined on day 1.

I don't know why I see days of Tulsi Gabbard also numbered in this administration.

tulsi gabbard's profile properly fits for a spy( military background with different identity then and wetting and so on) and with her being spy chief there will be a trap laid out for bharat so from our point of view we should be vary of things surrounding her of anything too.

 

[Captscooby]

What was the hq9 surprise IAF took? I haven't heard of this before. Got a source?

There was an extra battery of HQ-9 in Lahore which Intel didn't picked before the operation planning and it was the one which fired salvo of SAMs towards our fighters and caused the R jet crash

 

[hit&run]

Can not believe Americans failed to track the Iranian stockpile of enriched Uranium. Looks like Iranians were either bluffing, or it is too small to have a big footprint, or they have think-out Americans on this.

 

[spikey360]

Can not believe Americans failed to track the Iranian stockpile of enriched Uranium. Looks like Iranians were either bluffing, or it is too small to have a big footprint, or they have think-out Americans on this.

The Americans can't even track Covid origin, and you expect them to track a some kilograms of fissile material?

 

[Varzone]

The Americans can't even track Covid origin, and you expect them to track a some kilograms of fissile material?

That’s for public consumption

 

[snakeeyes07]

Interesting discussion, reinforces my thinking that hyunmoo-5/Agni-5 PCB type weapon is/will be better suited than MOP. Precursor warhead will reduce effectiveness of any oblique composite concrete structure. BM penetrator will have significantly higher kinetic energy.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TriASB-F5UY

 

[snakeeyes07]

Pakijeets

I think Paijaan has a better ring to it

 

[Tumba]

Interesting discussion, reinforces my thinking that hyunmoo-5/Agni-5 PCB type weapon is/will be better suited than MOP. Precursor warhead will reduce effectiveness of any oblique composite concrete structure. BM penetrator will have significantly higher kinetic energy.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TriASB-F5UY

Actually these weapons are effective only against a hardened shelters… if we mix any flexibility like we have on mountains the whole impact point spreads the kinetic energy

So if the bunker is under 100 meter concrete its effective

But if that same bunker is under 300 meter of mountain dirt and rocks only way is close all entrances and meep on playing the game over and over again …

 

[snakeeyes07]

Actually these weapons are effective only against a hardened shelters… if we mix any flexibility like we have on mountains the whole impact point spreads the kinetic energy

So if the bunker is under 100 meter concrete its effective

But if that same bunker is under 300 meter of mountain dirt and rocks only way is close all entrances and meep on playing the game over and over again …

Conventionally I think 100-120 meter underground (including earth/rocks & RCC) is the max possible with hyunmoo-5 type.

For 300 meter, nuclear is the only option.

Otherwise, like you said, only inlets, entrances and vents can be targeted but it provides only a temporary outcome.

 

[Cyclops]

Interesting discussion, reinforces my thinking that hyunmoo-5/Agni-5 PCB type weapon is/will be better suited than MOP. Precursor warhead will reduce effectiveness of any oblique composite concrete structure. BM penetrator will have significantly higher kinetic energy.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TriASB-F5UY

True, the only issue being, using a MOP like ordnance instead of a ballistic-missile allows US to do so in the early stages of a conflict without rapidly climbing the escalation ladder, thereby putting pressure on the other side to overreact and look like an a**hole.

Similar to what we did to pakis.

War is almost as much about saving face and humiliating the other side as it is about actually getting some real results. Why do you think Trump is like "we're done, we're done, only nukes were probably bombed so u bettr not retaliate"

 

[Tumba]

US Military supremacy remains unchallenged

If ever India finds on odds with USA with in couple of decades before we are even bigger bully
…
If I can think of negating the overwhelming odds only way is ASAT weapons take out eyes and ears of US Military in space

 

[fire starter]

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