Israel x Iran Conflict (40 Viewers)

American can do as much strike they want. But with civilian deaths it will be impossible to change government in Iran. They will get stuck worst than Iraq or Syria or afghan or Vietnam .
It’s just to get some deal in the end to get ports and make money out of Middle East.

we as nation and individual are totally against supporting terror by Iran but this is not the solution. They don’t need chings and ruskie. Boots on the ground is going to be much tougher as they will face big resistance by people and their trained mullah.
For now their sleeper cells will be active it seems . It’s a big task for intelligence.
It can work in favour of Russia china or Asian countries to make USA get busy there and then they leave after a big loss.

It’s all turning into a big mess in next few months picture will be clear.

Aur Baki sab to thik hai. Ye Iran ki footbal team USA kaise jayegi next world cup ke liye ? Dono ka match ho gaya toh..🤣
Group of death …. Russia USA Iran Ukraine with israel and chinese refree.
 
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I disagree with this assessment.
Only because India has surpassed that stage of power where we need some country to send their men and machinery to do the battle for us.
We didn't need this even during the four wars we fought with Pakistan, one in "71 being very much against an antagonistic US.

What we need this alliance for is to make sure the other partners of the so called alliance are not used to leverage our weaknesses. Case in point being how China provides economic cover fire for Russia in Ukraine. Smuggling dual-use chips, buying large quantities of cheap oil. Basically doing whatever they can to keep a few Russian interests unharmed.
Were they not in this alliance, America would easily have come in and pressured Russia using these pain points. Yes, Chinese do these because Russia has oil and food to offer, no doubt. Not to mention land. In same manner, we have to find stuffs to offer.

If one is dreaming of fighting a war alone in today's world, it is a foolish dream, and a lot of people subscribe to this wet dream of India against the world, where by some magic India can forever keep balancing East and West without ever getting in a tricky situation. All our ancient wisdom, statecraft and even modern history all the while points this being opposite to common sense.

Well said! I just want to add small tidbits. Emotions have no place in foreign policy. Foreign policy should be based on pure cold calculation. Let me provide an example. When India carried out Operation Shakti, US and some of its allies immediately placed India under sanction. China was the first country to openly sell India uranium. Why did China do it? It was a symbolic gesture to let India know that China supports India's strategic independence. China supports India's strategic independence because it is vital for China's national security. If we examine the importance of Troika under this light, it is easier to understand why India, Russia and China have decided to revive it. This is why I am baffled that so many of the members do not seem to understand the importance of Iran's strategic independence.
 
Means burgers could do more strikes

As inevitable as Porkies banging their sisters.

Ameriki puppet like his father. Folks should recall how Iran supported Porkies against us under his rule.


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That's why folks blindly supporting Israel should consider the consequences should Israel succeed.

Well said! I just want to add small tidbits. Emotions have no place in foreign policy. Foreign policy should be based on pure cold calculation. Let me provide an example. When India carried out Operation Shakti, US and some of its allies immediately placed India under sanction. China was the first country to openly sell India uranium. Why did China do it? It was a symbolic gesture to let India know that China supports India's strategic independence. China supports India's strategic independence because it is vital for China's national security. If we examine the importance of Troika under this light, it is easier to understand why India, Russia and China have decided to revive it. This is why I am baffled that so many of the members do not seem to understand the importance of Iran's strategic independence.

They can't see beyond propoganda of the US that Iran nukes bad.

They don't see the larger game of destroying the dollar which is what the US is desperate to prevent.

It's common to see folks here decrying Chini for supporting Porkies, but they don't seem to remember US has built and sustained Porkies since independence.
 
Have the burgermunchers provided any evidence or just made claims like the Porkies?


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most of These BJP supporting ids are idiots.They are claiming Akash SAM is better than Israeli air defence and now comparing US bombing of Iran with our operation sindoor. They are embarrassing themselves and Indians as a wholeWhat happened to BJP's intellectual base?No wonder Modiji has to send wife murderer Sasitharoor to foreign countries to explain our stand.
 
most of These BJP supporting ids are idiots.They are claiming Akash SAM is better than Israeli air defence and now comparing US bombing of Iran with our operation sindoor. They are embarrassing themselves and Indians as a wholeWhat happened to BJP's intellectual base?No wonder Modiji has to send wife murderer Sasitharoor to foreign countries to explain our stand.

They may be idiots but the point stands.

US has provided no proof of destroying Irani nukes and now even their media claims the nuclear material was moved by Iran. We provided the proof of what we claimed. We never made idiotic claim of dismantling Porki nukes.

Israel is a tiny country, with not a large area to defend. It's not comparable to India. Plus, it basically gets all weapons from the US for free.

What the f does the orange orangutan mean?


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I disagree with this assessment.
Only because India has surpassed that stage of power where we need some country to send their men and machinery to do the battle for us.
We didn't need this even during the four wars we fought with Pakistan, one in "71 being very much against an antagonistic US.

What we need this alliance for is to make sure the other partners of the so called alliance are not used to leverage our weaknesses. Case in point being how China provides economic cover fire for Russia in Ukraine. Smuggling dual-use chips, buying large quantities of cheap oil. Basically doing whatever they can to keep a few Russian interests unharmed.
Were they not in this alliance, America would easily have come in and pressured Russia using these pain points. Yes, Chinese do these because Russia has oil and food to offer, no doubt. Not to mention land. In same manner, we have to find stuffs to offer.

If one is dreaming of fighting a war alone in today's world, it is a foolish dream, and a lot of people subscribe to this wet dream of India against the world, where by some magic India can forever keep balancing East and West without ever getting in a tricky situation. All our ancient wisdom, statecraft and even modern history all the while points this being opposite to common sense.

What you say makes sense but for that the Chong must come to his senses,

Currently he is high on his own chooran of Supapowa, Numba Wan etc where India is Bangladesh tier in relation to them.

Basically like what happened to Europoids after Ukraine war, because of oil and gas shortage/price increase boogaloo their economies are in the gutter now, Trump grabs them by the p*ssy at will and they don't like it, they've gotten off their high horse of hooman raites and are now willing to sell arms and get FTA with India.

Also to relations viz Chong, our anaemic defense industry and military buildup are not doing us any favors, if we had strong military and industry the Chong would behave himself.

Now the situation is
"Xixixixi Shendu, give me yoa land, what can you do to stop me xixixixxi!!!!!"
and on the other side
((( Sell your sovereignty to us Pajeet, after all with the Chinese after you, who will you run for support )))
 
most of These BJP supporting ids are idiots.They are claiming Akash SAM is better than Israeli air defence and now comparing US bombing of Iran with our operation sindoor. They are embarrassing themselves and Indians as a wholeWhat happened to BJP's intellectual base?No wonder Modiji has to send wife murderer Sasitharoor to foreign countries to explain our stand.

Arre re, iss dumeel ka to e-lynching hoga ab :bplease:
 
Between China and US, who is a better partner?

Economically between India & China, I don't see much inter-dependent compatibility. India imports lot of stuff and materials which are then used to produce goods to be consumed internally or export to ME, Europe & US. China looks at India as a potential market (increasing middle class consumer base), potentially to offset some of the lost market in the west. What are we going to export to China?

To me US is much better choice any day, they are nowhere nearly as arrogant as Chinese. US deep state can still be reasoned with. Chinese are an ideological and revisionist power, for them India as a successful economic story undermines their political superiority complex. China and India started their journey around the same time in 1949 & 1947 resp, they choose different political paths.

Pakistani actually.

Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan, a Pakistani nuclear scientist, ran a black-market network in the late 1990s and early 2000s. His network provided Iran, North Korea, and Libya with centrifuge designs, technical assistance, and hardware for uranium enrichment. This was the primary external source of nuclear technology for Iran.

Ruskis and chin did help them out a bit in the civilian sector helping them set up a lot of things but both of them stopped for unknown reasons most probably after seeing the absolute savageness of these mullas.
And that Pakistani capability was built through smuggling, espionage and criminally negligent, if not actual criminal, Dutch and US facilitation. India has developed uranium enrichment know how on its own.
 
most of These BJP supporting ids are idiots.They are claiming Akash SAM is better than Israeli air defence and now comparing US bombing of Iran with our operation sindoor. They are embarrassing themselves and Indians as a wholeWhat happened to BJP's intellectual base?No wonder Modiji has to send wife murderer Sasitharoor to foreign countries to explain our stand.
Why do people with little to no knowledge and an inferiority complex speak with this level of confidence?
What Israeli system is Akash being compared to? Do you think it's somehow inferior to Israeli AD even though Israeli AD has never faced a 4th gen fighter?

And how is USA's strike on Iran comparable to Op Sindoor? We hit an airspace on alert guarded by 4th gen fighters and multiple AD systems. Meanwhile, US just dropped bombs on a couple of sites which had already been SEADed and DEADed by Israelis for weeks on end.

Don't bring your 90s era insecurity here. The irony of calling others fool while putting your place in the spectrum on full display is not lost on me.
 
Why do people with little to no knowledge and an inferiority complex speak with this level of confidence?
What Israeli system is Akash being compared to? Do you think it's somehow inferior to Israeli AD even though Israeli AD has never faced a 4th gen fighter?

And how is USA's strike on Iran comparable to Op Sindoor? We hit an airspace on alert guarded by 4th gen fighters and multiple AD systems. Meanwhile, US just dropped bombs on a couple of sites which had already been SEADed and DEADed by Israelis for weeks on end.

Don't bring your 90s era insecurity here. The irony of calling others fool while putting your place in the spectrum on full display is not lost on me.

He's a Congi IT Celliya bot who lost his way.
This is not twitter or insta where the usual low IQ low quality jhumlas will work.
He will get the e-lynching deserved inshallah.
 
So are they not related? :(
I get what you are saying, but not all Arabs are same.
Na some of them are related, like in Egypt the small scale and poor farmers are genetically similar to those who farmer the lands during the reign of seti 1 , or ramses 2 .
They and ancient Egyptian share same genetics those guys are called today as felehaleen or something similar.
 
The Israeli Air Force has released footage of strikes on Iranian ballistic missile launchers. All Israeli aircraft, F-35I, F-16I and American-made F-15I are used in the strikes. The type of missiles used by the Israeli air force is not reported. Judging by the video, strikes were carried out on all types of Iranian missiles, including Qadr-H, Fateh-110, Fateh-313, Qassem and other types. It is worth noting that some missile strikes are simply shown from different angles. The question is often asked where Iran's air defense is. According to open data and judging by what is shown, Iran's air defense was disabled at the beginning of the war. This is the result of Israeli intelligence work. Drones launched by Iranian residents, including Afghans in Iran, were used to destroy the air defense. Also, Iranian residents, Afghans and sabotage groups deployed remotely controlled Spike ATGMs. It is currently unknown how many and what kind of air defense Iran has. Iran has several S-300 air defense batteries, an export variant, but these are early modifications from the 1980s. It has not been confirmed that it was destroyed. Rumors about Iran having S-400 air defense systems have not been confirmed. Russia has previously offered Iran joint air defense development projects, but this never took off.


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Chong must come to his senses,
Totally agree. This is the biggest hindrance to an Asian unity. This is where the maximum hardwork and power lifting diplomacy needs to be done, blended with copious amounts of melee battles atop Himalayas.
Modi's China policy is spot on in this regard.

I disagree with the insecurities projected by MEA/Modi viz-a-viz de-dollarization rejection, SCO avoidance, BRICS occasional nuisance maker, etc. Other than that RIC is reaching there, at snail pace, but atleast going somewhere.
Putin Kaka can do some heavy lifting for us, were it not his total dependency on Chinese economy, he could have done occasional analization of China and RIC would have seemed the natural choice for successive Indian goverments.
We can sort out our issues with the land grabber, but should never do any deal with The Great Satan or his bulldog.
 

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