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Pilot suicides have happened in past globally.
> Technically can both switches be manually shut off in 1 second? YES.
> But suicide-mass-murder that too of most people of same community &/or nationality, is a way too heavy accusation & needs carefull backing with medical records, exceptional public behavior symptoms of pilot, etc.
> Prelim report is incomplete w/o full exact CVR transcript & time stamp, hence is heavily criticized not only by Indian ALPA, etc but globally, suspected to be manipulated.
> Having foreign CEO is normal but still I wonder if we could have Air India CEO from IIT+IIM.
> Audio can reflect emotions like screaming, exclaiming, yelling, scolding, frustration, surprise, etc, not a short, blunt, incomplete, suspected writing.
> Otherwise, many people are suspecting FO also that he did some mistake & tried to mislead CVR recording. What if the captain said "I didn't..... You did that!!!"???
> I already showed how tech glitch can show on MFD like wrong operation leading to wrong reaction, misunderstanding, accusation, etc especially if pilots don't get along well.
> Boeing has been caught lying in other cases.
> Boeing employees have been whistle blowers.
> Boeing, GE CEOs, managers, employees post crash are not coming forward to educate public on 787 systems.
> Pilots who have flown with deceased captain Sumeet Sabharwal have said in interviews to news channels that he was good, stable person & training other pilots.
> Nobody is talking straight IF at all captain Sumeet had any medical condition & what exactly.
> If pilot wants to commit suicide, they can do it with kitchen knife, drink poison, jump from buildings, ram their cars to walls or off bridge, flyover, etc, etc, etc. Killing people mostly from their own community is an act of huge mental retardation or if with some grievance then would be visible prior via some public interactions.
> CAUTION - As suicide-mass-murder is a big heavy crime, so all demographic caharacteristics will have to be factored in which can make public very uncomfortable, especially when India is very heterogenous nation where incompatible & opposite polarity people live, study, work in close proximity in schools, colleges, offices, neighborhood, sometimes causing clashes, crimes, riots, terror attacks.
> In homogenous environment globally also there are jealous, greedy, corrupt people.
> It is more easy to suspect such thing anonymously & if we don't belong to the incident country or we don't share any core demographic commonality with the accused person.
> Here the Captain & FO are demographically different. But there are HR rules of behavioral conduct everywhere. So IF at all they disliked eachother then they would stick strictly to their job only, not exchange personal talks & could misunderstand/suspect eachother in case of any work anomalies. This happens in every heterogenous office daily what we call 'office politics'.
> If switch is mechanically faulty & suspected to move down in normal/operational condition then by crash impact it cannot stay in up/on position like in this case.
>The SAIB for fuel switch was released in 2018 but not followed by Air India as it was advisory, not mandatory. This can be negligence, over-confidence over component performance.
Now this new video by a foreign pilot on the SAIB says that fuel switch in various Boeing models are identical & can have mechanical problems if installed with "locking feature" disengaged.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI4fY-CJ1DQ
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> A comment on his video reveals that in Embraer jets the fuel cutoff won't be done unless the throttle is pulled back to idle.
"Embraer will not let you shut the fuel off or close the fuel valves unless the throttle aren't at idle. To just kill the fuel with both engines at full TOGO is unbelievable."
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This is perhaps a safety feature & in Boeing too, as per 1x engine failure/relight procedure during take-off in B-787 (YT videos) -
- the fuel switch red light turns on.
- Surviving engine is enough for +ve flight.
NOTE - This doesn't auto-start RAT or APU unless additional conditions ar met.
- Both pilots coordinate to follow checklist & acknowledge each other t every step.
- The MFD displays probable reason like fire, etc.
- Auto-throttle switch for affected engine is switched off in UFC panel.
- Affected side throttle is put to idle.
- THEN AFFECTED SIDE FUEL SWITCH IS CUTOFF.
- Fire handle of affected side is pulled up & turned to discharge fire bottle.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZVc3npAltA
This procedure takes time. But in dual failure it is instant emergency. based on this procedure, the pilots should immediately check for fire & if no fire then -
- switch off both auto-throttle switches in UFC panel.
- pull back both throttles to idle.
- switch off both fuel switches then on.
- Either EEC should auto-arm & light the ignitors or engine knobs in overhead panel need to be rotated from NORM to START.
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So it is basically a 3-point operation -
- Auto-throttle switch off in front.
- Pull throttles back.
- Switch off fuel switch.
THIS MEANS AS PER S/W CONTROLLED PROTECTION THE FUEL HARD SWITCH CUTOFF OPERATION WILL NOT BE RELAYED FROM FMC TO EEC UNLESS THE THROTTLE IS PULLED BACK TO IDLE.
SO THIS WHOLE ACCUSATION OF CAPTAIN (FAR MORE EXPERIENCED THAN FO) SWITCHING OFF FUEL SWITCHES IN 1 SECOND WHEN THROTTLE IN FORWARD POSITION, IS TECHNICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
As i said, some people are also suspecting the less experienced FO who might have made some mistake & tried to mislead the CVR.
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> In India the IPC 499, 500 deals with defamation & propaganda issues in any form.
> Revenge sabotage by Pakistan, Turkey, etc post Pahalgam terror attack & our retaliation on terror camps, is also being considered like announced by miniter of Civil Aviation Mr. Murlidhar Mohol.
> Political sabotage to defame rulling party is also considered, although will never be proven publicly even if true bcoz it'll lead to political violence & perhaps a civil war too.
> Bcoz of all these points, Pilots & other professionals who earlier confidently suspected pilot error or suicide, etc are currently either distancing off or at least pausing until full exact CVR with time stamp is publicized.
