AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft

[Spitfire IX]

Is EJ230 the answer to the AMCA non-engine problem? It is claimed that Eurojet has offered it to SAAB. Gripen E sales to Colombia may be blocked through US refusal to allow GE F414 transfer to the country. If that were to happen, all Gripen E export sales would be at risk. Canada could turn out to buy a lot of Gripen E if it becomes available with a non-US engine.

I guess that development of a 117 kN EJ230 from the 90 kN EJ200 would cost far less and be far quicker than developing an engine from scratch. Additionally, if Eurojet, SAAB, India and Canada provided development funding, the cost to each party would be low.

 

[Bhartiya Sainik]

Is EJ230 the answer to the AMCA non-engine problem? It is claimed that Eurojet has offered it to SAAB. Gripen E sales to Colombia may be blocked through US refusal to allow GE F414 transfer to the country. If that were to happen, all Gripen E export sales would be at risk. Canada could turn out to buy a lot of Gripen E if it becomes available with a non-US engine.

I guess that development of a 117 kN EJ230 from the 90 kN EJ200 would cost far less and be far quicker than developing an engine from scratch. Additionally, if Eurojet, SAAB, India and Canada provided development funding, the cost to each party would be low.

UK, Canada doesn't seem to be friendly to India.
UK relations with other western nations would obviously be different than with India.
Industrial deals are for decades while political regimes can change every few years.

F-35 was offered XA-100/1 based AETP-VCE, but only ECU happening.
Hence a brand new engine design should be 6gen oriented & compatible to 5gen also, have characteristics like VC, direct drive generator, rear ceramic RF stealth blocker, 3D TVC, different cooling techniques like film cooling, liquid cooling, transpiration cooling, etc, use of thermal materials like Kevlar in M-88, etc.

 

[Spitfire IX]

UK, Canada doesn't seem to be friendly to India.
UK relations with other western nations would obviously be different than with India.
Industrial deals are for decades while political regimes can change every few years.

F-35 was offered XA-100/1 based AETP-VCE, but only ECU happening.
Hence a brand new engine design should be 6gen oriented & compatible to 5gen also, have characteristics like VC, direct drive generator, rear ceramic RF stealth blocker, 3D TVC, different cooling techniques like film cooling, liquid cooling, transpiration cooling, etc, use of thermal materials like Kevlar in M-88, etc.

Nothing stops India waiting for a new engine with 6G characteristics. India can keep making AMCA with F414 until a new engine is available. It looks like RR has been selected to make it but that is speculative until a contract is signed. Same would be true for an engine from any OEM.

 

[randombully]

Found this para written by a guy on another forum.


"Not needed, really. USAF's F-35 don't really use anything other than medium range missiles. It's understandable that for the next generation designers concluded that the number of times short range missiles would be beneficial is not worth the effort (added weight, space)."

Maybe the reason amca doesn't have side bays for WVR Missiles.