Bangladesh Civil War & Coup 2024

if you cant tell if i am serious, then you just proved my point being a western simp and in need of re-education.

will be funny when two largest economy in BRICS - india and china go to war . kadi ninda will be on all four limbs begging for bombs , missiles , drones from US .

Russia + Putin is good friend to us but they are locked in war and is fucking it up . at this rate wont be surprised if somebody puts a bullet into putinji's head.
 
will be funny when two largest economy in BRICS - india and china go to war . kadi ninda will be on all four limbs begging for bombs , missiles , drones from US .

Russia + Putin is good friend to us but they are locked in war and is fucking it up . at this rate wont be surprised if somebody puts a bullet into putinji's head.

It is extremely unlikely for India and China to go to war unless China has given up on trying to conquer Taiwan.
At best we will see the same type of shoving contest like Galwan or Doklam and the Chinese forming a line of ants to get at us as if we spilled sugar everywhere.
 
These Red Profile Pic accounts are everywhere on SM, from twitter to youtube. And they all seem to have the same agenda: Denial of news related to ongoing Hindu genocide in Bangladesh.

Then they CRY a pacific ocean about "All eyes on Gaza" or if any Akhlaq is lynched in India and get in DENIAL MODE if same happens to Hindus.

btw there is nothing going on in Gaza. Absolutely nothing!!!

Gaza muslims are really HAPPY and enjoying the friendship :lovee: and hospitality :tea: from Israeli Military. All those videos are totally fake and not a single Gaza muslim is hurt, all are FAKE SM stories planted by muslims themselves specially those Hamas leaders so they can become Billionaires by funds for Gaza pouring from all over the world.. :lol:
 
will be funny when two largest economy in BRICS - india and china go to war . kadi ninda will be on all four limbs begging for bombs , missiles , drones from US .

Russia + Putin is good friend to us but they are locked in war and is fucking it up . at this rate wont be surprised if somebody puts a bullet into putinji's head.

Begging for what? When was the last time India went to the US or it's allies begging for ammunition?🤣

Bombs, Drones and Missiles? India is self-sufficient in those, already manufactures and exports them.

If capturing 20% of the Adversary's territory and holding on to it is "fucking up", I don't know what "winning" really is.

While the American media and the BBC were predicting Putin's violent demise, one of the USA's ex-presidents almost received a brass transplant to his brain.

In another news,


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DHClYLqEYk
 
Begging for what? When was the last time India went to the US or it's allies begging for ammunition?🤣

Bombs, Drones and Missiles? India is self-sufficient in those, already manufactures and exports them.

If capturing 20% of the Adversary's territory and holding on to it is "fucking up", I don't know what "winning" really is.

While the American media and the BBC were predicting Putin's violent demise, one of the USA's ex-presidents almost received a brass transplant to his brain.

In another news,


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DHClYLqEYk

Bruh lets be real our soldiers rock american camo for their winter wear. The PLA has 1000+ 155mm guns facing us leave alone the uncountable 122mms and IA can at most scrounge up 500 155mms total. And this is the most favourable comparison. If we talk about mortars and rocket artillery the situation is even more dire. We are exporting because of dalali not because we have some excess production capacity.
And since you are asking about the last time ... it was the kargil war where were we begged american ally Israel and american ally france for bombs and shells.
 
Bruh lets be real our soldiers rock american camo for their winter wear. The PLA has 1000+ 155mm guns facing us leave alone the uncountable 122mms and IA can at most scrounge up 500 155mms total. And this is the most favourable comparison. If we talk about mortars and rocket artillery the situation is even more dire. We are exporting because of dalali not because we have some excess production capacity.
And since you are asking about the last time ... it was the kargil war where were we begged american ally Israel and american ally france for bombs and shells.

And we recently supplied ammunition to the same "American" ally while it fights the rag-tag bandits of Gaza. Should I claim that America crawled on it's four limbs to beg India for the ammunition? Rest of the rant doesn't deserve a response.
 
And we recently supplied ammunition to the same "American" ally while it fights the rag-tag bandits of Gaza. Should I claim that America crawled on it's four limbs to beg India for the ammunition? Rest of the rant doesn't deserve a response.
Yep ... so rag tag bandits require us to export shells to them because it is economical I don't recall any begging . They can get the same (and did) from the south koreans who have the largest stock pile of 155 shells.
What do you think will happen when we get into a shooting war with the country with the largest industrial capacity in the world .. you betcha we will be begging not only from the west but also from places like south africa .
Sure buddy a country that is so desperate for winter clothing that it adopts american surplus (camo included) does not require a response, that is actually true.
 
Yep ... so rag tag bandits require us to export shells to them because it is economical I don't recall any begging . They can get the same form the south koreans who have the largest stock pile of 155 shells.
What do you think will happen when we get into a shooting war with the country with the largest industrial capacity in the world .. you betcha we will be begging not only from the west but also from places like south africa .
Sure buddy a country that is so desperate for winter clothing that it adopts american surplus (camo included) does not require a response, that is actually true.

Keep the rants coming. Even better, get back on the topic. If in doubt, read the thread's title.
 
@karn @DingDong

I dont know what you guys are tripping up over this whole going begging not begging about ammo.
Lets get real here.
Ammo stockpile is a recurrent issue with armies since the age of gunpowder came to be and rich/poor countries go up and down the ammo stockpile over time for extended periods due to military and socio-political factors.

As it stands now. China is a dark zone, but we can make educated guesses about their ammo stockpile from their industrial capacity to be the largest in the world at this point and comfortable for them to get to 2-3 years of major one front war at the very least without restocking.

India, to my knowledge, sits in the 2-4 months zone for broad spectrum ammunition stockpiles. Maybe slightly lower even.


Shockingly to some but not to most keen observers, USA and NATO nations have surprisingly low stockpiles but the reason is understandable : when you dont see any credible military threat to yourself and war for 30 years, with the only wars you see is brutalizing ' savages' with far less tech power and logistics power, you go for the scapel, not the sledgehammer approach : you end up specialising in high end expensive weaponry (such as himars) that are all about surgical strike and not area saturation.
Being under Murrican security umbrella and just doing these, means yuo get to neglect your military for 30 years and run ammo stockpiles in the 1 month max capacity for full spectrum war. Because by then, murrica wouldve arrived.

How much does Murrica have/did Murrica have before Ukronazi war went full spectrum ? About 1 years supply for major operations, aka Gulf War-1 type of operation.

Now, where does NoKo fall under this ? NoKo is a military statistical outlier in EVERY possible way known to mankind.
Poor country, yet surprisingly high tech in the ' big ticket' N stuff. Small country but positively YUUUGE military.

its not because NoKo is crazy paranoid idiot batshit like the west tries to call it, its because that is a calculated response from NoKo military leadership, most of whom cut their teeth in the korean war itself.

The simple reality of NoKo at war is, ' NoKo must march 60km past the DMZ and then NoKo wins war' in the immediate landmass.
Why ? Because Seoul is the beating heart of Korea in every single fashion and Seoul is less than 60Km from DMZ.
Both sides know this - SoKos arent stupid to not know that if NoKo military arrives in Seoul, it game over : 20-25% of SoKo economy and demographic manpower base is instantly crushed.

So what does a developed economy do to handle this existential threat ? go down the tech & maginot line approach. Make the area north of Seoul a killing field for infantry & armor movements.

What does NoKo do to guarantee a win ? Get YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE.
Play the ' my tanks are shit, you will kill them like bong kills rui. Sure. But i have nearly 4000 of them, being backed by 15,000 artillery pieces. Oh and a one MEERIOON strong active army ants. I need to go 60km, can you stop me ?' game.

This is the status quo anitbellum scenario of Korean Peninsula since the mid 60s till now.

This means, NoKo, by virtue of its military doctrine, is in the top 5 artillery powers on the planet, while occupying a likely top 3 spot in terms of actual ammo stockpile due to the extremely short escalation ladder for Korean pen. war to happen. This is because NoKo expects the war to go full blast for about a month and then SoKo is dead, as US may not be able to move logistics into SoKo by a month if its bogged down elsewhere or if China does a blockade. Which means enough ammo for an army of 15,000 arty pieces to go kaboom for a month straight. That is pretty much the stockpile equivalent of what Murrica had in the cold war days, nevermind today.

Which means, if your arty is compatible with whatever ' Gogureyo Trump-uh' fatty has and you make him your friend then its a YUUUUGE payoff for your supply chain logistics.
 
Bombs, Drones and Missiles? India is self-sufficient in those, already manufactures and exports them.
Missiles, yes. But drones? License produced ones may be and same goes with bombs, we still import some precision ones. I think we got good at picking ancient names to fool people. Last time ninda turtle ran to Russia for r-37s?

We are not placed to go to war with China yet. Common sense based on our countries lack of capabilities and scale and invisible dependencies due to dishonesty in how they brand indigenous. Most programs never lead to induction on one or other pretext. God save us if we have to run to West in need, be ready to lose a state or two again.
 
@karn @DingDong

I dont know what you guys are tripping up over this whole going begging not begging about ammo.
Lets get real here.
Ammo stockpile is a recurrent issue with armies since the age of gunpowder came to be and rich/poor countries go up and down the ammo stockpile over time for extended periods due to military and socio-political factors.

As it stands now. China is a dark zone, but we can make educated guesses about their ammo stockpile from their industrial capacity to be the largest in the world at this point and comfortable for them to get to 2-3 years of major one front war at the very least without restocking.

India, to my knowledge, sits in the 2-4 months zone for broad spectrum ammunition stockpiles. Maybe slightly lower even.


Shockingly to some but not to most keen observers, USA and NATO nations have surprisingly low stockpiles but the reason is understandable : when you dont see any credible military threat to yourself and war for 30 years, with the only wars you see is brutalizing ' savages' with far less tech power and logistics power, you go for the scapel, not the sledgehammer approach : you end up specialising in high end expensive weaponry (such as himars) that are all about surgical strike and not area saturation.
Being under Murrican security umbrella and just doing these, means yuo get to neglect your military for 30 years and run ammo stockpiles in the 1 month max capacity for full spectrum war. Because by then, murrica wouldve arrived.

How much does Murrica have/did Murrica have before Ukronazi war went full spectrum ? About 1 years supply for major operations, aka Gulf War-1 type of operation.

Now, where does NoKo fall under this ? NoKo is a military statistical outlier in EVERY possible way known to mankind.
Poor country, yet surprisingly high tech in the ' big ticket' N stuff. Small country but positively YUUUGE military.

its not because NoKo is crazy paranoid idiot batshit like the west tries to call it, its because that is a calculated response from NoKo military leadership, most of whom cut their teeth in the korean war itself.

The simple reality of NoKo at war is, ' NoKo must march 60km past the DMZ and then NoKo wins war' in the immediate landmass.
Why ? Because Seoul is the beating heart of Korea in every single fashion and Seoul is less than 60Km from DMZ.
Both sides know this - SoKos arent stupid to not know that if NoKo military arrives in Seoul, it game over : 20-25% of SoKo economy and demographic manpower base is instantly crushed.

So what does a developed economy do to handle this existential threat ? go down the tech & maginot line approach. Make the area north of Seoul a killing field for infantry & armor movements.

What does NoKo do to guarantee a win ? Get YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE.
Play the ' my tanks are shit, you will kill them like bong kills rui. Sure. But i have nearly 4000 of them, being backed by 15,000 artillery pieces. Oh and a one MEERIOON strong active army ants. I need to go 60km, can you stop me ?' game.

This is the status quo anitbellum scenario of Korean Peninsula since the mid 60s till now.

This means, NoKo, by virtue of its military doctrine, is in the top 5 artillery powers on the planet, while occupying a likely top 3 spot in terms of actual ammo stockpile due to the extremely short escalation ladder for Korean pen. war to happen. This is because NoKo expects the war to go full blast for about a month and then SoKo is dead, as US may not be able to move logistics into SoKo by a month if its bogged down elsewhere or if China does a blockade. Which means enough ammo for an army of 15,000 arty pieces to go kaboom for a month straight. That is pretty much the stockpile equivalent of what Murrica had in the cold war days, nevermind today.

Which means, if your arty is compatible with whatever ' Gogureyo Trump-uh' fatty has and you make him your friend then its a YUUUUGE payoff for your supply chain logistics.
The issue is that we are getting side tracked on multiple issues on this thread .
I myself am confused over why you and @crazywithmath are getting into a west vs rest fight when the original question is wether a dictatorship is good for Bharat. Literally no one here holds a case for the "west". The most pro western guy here is only in it to get the sweet sweet gora tech nothing more nothing less.
I know why your fight started though .... it's because @crazywithmath talked down to "rest" leaders like Putin Xi Orban etc etc . and you guys responded .
As for the noko situation.... Noko artillery is shit regardless of their mass. If you cannot standardise the propellant mass in your charges actually aiming the arty piece is pointless. Soko on the other hand has reliable arty charges and stock piles .. Noko is hardly in a position to threaten Seoul .
We know about the deindustrialisation of the west ... so their shortages aren't shocking and kalyani/OFB make bank while the sun shines.
 
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Missiles, yes. But drones? License produced ones may be and same goes with bombs, we still import some precision ones. I think we got good at picking ancient names to fool people. Last time ninda turtle ran to Russia for r-37s?

We are not placed to go to war with China yet. Common sense based on our countries lack of capabilities and scale and invisible dependencies due to dishonesty in how they brand indigenous. Most programs never lead to induction on one or other pretext. God save us if we have to run to West in need, be ready to lose a state or two again.

Had the availability of shiny equipment been the deciding factor, India might have conquered Nepal, Bhutan, BD, Pakistan, Maldives, and Sri Lanka by now. Israel might have managed to defeat the Hamas and invade Lebanon with it's land army.

No country is ever 100% ready (not even the global superpower), the military warehouse is never 100% supplied. Countries fight wars with whatever is at their disposal at the time of need. The cherry picked stories about India going to shop for specific equipment is not representative of India's defense preparedness. No single piece of equipment can be placed as a battle winner in the modern warfare scenario.

We are not well placed to go to war against China, but neither is China. It is clearly visible in the conduct of the two countries.

Now, back to the thread's topic please.
 
As for the noko situation.... Noko artillery is shit regardless of their mass. If you cannot standardise the propellant mass in your charges actually aiming the arty piece is pointless. Soko on the other hand has reliable arty charges and stock piles .. Noko is hardly in a position to threaten Seoul .
Don't see this to be true, first Seoul is in arty range and arty is more than enough to blast Seoul through the roof in first few hours and this is their strategy. Second china is a better backer geographically than USA for soko because of being neighbor. If they couldn't beat noko back in 50s with poor China then soko stands no chance now when shit starts. Tech won't make a difference for shit. 3rd China isn't like Indian to watch from.sidelines like India in their buffer zones with US allies. This puts good odds for noko. Their military production is pretty good.


Literally no one here holds a case for the "west". The most pro western guy here is only in it to get the sweet sweet gora tech nothing more nothing less.
There are plenty shilling for west from controlled secularism to f35s and so on. They all do it in their own subtle manner whether it's dissing Russian or something else. Anyway back to thread.
 
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Countries fight wars with whatever is at their disposal at the time of need
This I agree and I hope our military follows this golden rule and inducts things like Arjun, atags e.t.c so they can see version x of it but it doesn't seem that way at all.
 
The issue is that we are getting side tracked on multiple issues on this thread .
I myself am confused over why you and @crazywithmath are getting into a west vs rest fight when the original question is wether a dictatorship is good for Bharat. Literally no one here holds a case for the "west". The most pro western guy here is only in it to get the sweet sweet gora tech nothing more nothing less.
I know why your fight started though .... it's because @crazywithmath talked down to "rest" leaders like Putin Xi Orban etc etc . and you guys responded .
As for the noko situation.... Noko artillery is shit regardless of their mass. If you cannot standardise the propellant mass in your charges actually aiming the arty piece is pointless. Soko on the other hand has reliable arty charges and stock piles .. Noko is hardly in a position to threaten Seoul .
We know about the deindustrialisation of the west ... so their shortages aren't shocking and kalyani/OFB make bank while the sun shines.

My dear man. 15000 artillery, of which about 1500 are MRLs and 5000+ are mobile arty, doesnt need accuracy to turn anything that is about 55-65km away to an absolute smoking pile of rubble.

Sure, you can say that NoKo's imprecise arty is useless to Rus for its precision bombing campaigns in Ukraine ( unless its stcokpiling for mariupol part-2 and more artillery blanket barrage) but even 1940s artillery is good enough to reduce a city 50-60km away to a junkyard in 3 days flat.
 
Yep ... so rag tag bandits require us to export shells to them because it is economical I don't recall any begging . They can get the same (and did) from the south koreans who have the largest stock pile of 155 shells.
What do you think will happen when we get into a shooting war with the country with the largest industrial capacity in the world .. you betcha we will be begging not only from the west but also from places like south africa .
Sure buddy a country that is so desperate for winter clothing that it adopts american surplus (camo included) does not require a response, that is actually true.
America has been begging the world over for artillery shells and mortars.. India, Pakistan, South Korea.. you name it.. has been begging for AD systems from Japan.. Attrition war is gruelling.. We are in a better position than during the kargil war.. But, still far from where we have to be.. The Russo Ukraine war and Gaza war is being leveraged by Modi.. to make formidable beasts out of Indian Private and Public military industrial enterprises..
 
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It is extremely unlikely for India and China to go to war unless China has given up on trying to conquer Taiwan.
At best we will see the same type of shoving contest like Galwan or Doklam and the Chinese forming a line of ants to get at us as if we spilled sugar everywhere.

u havent been paying attention to lac.

its a war like situation at western sector aka ladakh , total 90k pla troops for whole border + tanks , artys . underground tunnels been build in aksai chin . there is no pushing and playing kabidi here . new roe is we will shoot chinese if they try anything.

AP they are building new road networks right up to border , brigades being brought here for exercises and not leaving .

chinese will escalate soon or later , they will grab land in AP . that is guaranteed , we can either push elsewhere in retaliation and it will be war or Modiji can say 'kohi nahi gussa' - just let China take whatever.

this india+china (BRICS) against US fantasy only exits in ur head.
 
America has been begging the world over for artillery shells and mortars.. India, Pakistan, South Korea.. you name it.. has been begging for AD systems from Japan.. Attrition war is gruelling.. We are in a better position than during the kargil war.. But, still far from where we have to be.. The Russo Ukraine war and Gaza war is being leveraged by Modi.. to make formidable beasts out of Indian Private and Public military industrial enterprises..

in war time we will be asking US+west for help . that much is guaranteed. not just equipment or ammo but intel as well . we are already using their satellite network .

something i dont understand is y Modi is so pro-US , and even this bangladesh episode wont change that .
pretty clear that they are trying to turn us into a vassal .
 

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