Bangladesh Civil War & Coup 2024

U look like u don't read properly 3.5% is govt sector jobs out of total jobs in the country, i.e. if there are 100 jobs in the country then only 3.5 are govt. Jobs.

If it's "Only" then why so vehemently demanding for special treatment.
3.5% is red herring to hide how well paid those jobs are and they fall into top percentiles.
Also how govt edu/research institutions still make 50% or more of top 20 institutes in India.
 
As many members pointed out 'Monsoon' is a hindrance we missed mentioning that Americans knew it in advance. That is why they chose July to get things done.

In our movies and through folklore we have made it very predictable to our enemies when we are lazy and when we are active and what is our threshold so that they can keep hurting us under that threshold with unconventional war and salami slicing or act when the rains pour or the snow starts to fall.

Bit by bit we will be defeated because we are not ready to surprise them.
 
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If it's "Only" then why so vehemently demanding for special treatment.
3.5% is red herring to hide how well paid those jobs are and they fall into top percentiles.
Also how govt edu/research institutions still make 50% or more of top 20 institutes in India.
U are a lying insecure boy.
 
Sc ST make up about 20 to 40% of a state population depending upon which state you are talking about. No point of going after 15 to 20% of the forwards caste is there? You are numerous enough to run your own temples.

The fact that you treat mandir as business is what's wrong with our religion. Besides I don't know any average mandir priests who are millionaires.


Taipan you showed disdain towards bangaldeshi Hindus in one of your posts when bablu made a snide comment on it. I have since deleted that post but the Crux still stands. He was in favor of Hindu solidarity, only when the argument became about caste is when he pointed out that most Bangladeshi Hindu are form OBC and SC ST, albeit he did so in a not so desirable manner.
I don't know whether you really care about Hindus or just want the material benefits that come with this religion.

Also are you Violent Indian from DfI?
Plz delete ur own post too ,or allow my reply which was decent to continue.
 
Caste baiting and fake atrocity literature will not make this forum duck down. This thread will not be allowed to be derailed because your cognitive limitation is not able to understand complex indices.

Thread bans will be served soon. Off-topic posts will be deleted without explanations.
 
As many members pointed out 'Monsoon' is a hindrance we missed mentioning that Americans knew it in advance. That is why they chose July to get things done.

In our movies and through folklore we have made it very predictable to our enemies when we are lazy and when we are active and what is our threshold so that they can keep hurting us under that threshold with unconventional war and salami slicing or act when the rains pour or the snow starts to fall.

Bit by bit we will be defeated because we are not ready to surprise them.
India would not have taken any military action even in December..
 
Gaining St Martin as base is just one of the step. Its part of broad dismemberment plan of North East India and Myanmar like East Timor. Chin Kuki invasion in Mizoram and Manipur is inkling towards that. And they are not stopping at that. Please read how fast xtianity(US flavor) is being spread in Arunachal. As an Indian nation we do just in time problem solving we do not do big pocture thinking. Us accelerated its plan because the way GOI first time in decades started investing in NE.

You have to marvel at US move. Any military action we take towards BD will fulfill primary goal of US since start of Ukro Russian war: Club India with Russia in same club. This also gives bonus of dividing Indian Army focus from North to BD border. Thus giving ample room to China+Pak for giving India bloody nose so that India out of fear goes running to US, and acedes to US demands, is forced to look away from what US is doing in India via their NGOs & Agents. This shall also include one more item in their agendas in India which includes naturalizing Rohingyas within India(Remember Soros fund for Rohingyas?)

Any action towards Kuki Chin shall again give US via UN to rap about HR.

This is tough complex problem for Modi, much more than what Indira Gandhi faced in 69-71. She had support of Soviet Union. Today we dont have support of any power but on our own.
 
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Can a Regime Change Conspiracy Be Hatched in India?

Yes, it is possible—or rather, it nearly succeeded during the farmers' agitation on January 26th, 2021, when foreign-sponsored agitators came dangerously close to attacking the Red Fort and raising a Khalistan flag. Fortunately, security forces prevented this from happening. Although the Indian government could have responded harshly, it chose restraint. Meanwhile, Western media seemed to revel in the unfolding chaos, but their tone changed when they were reminded of the January 6th, 2021, U.S. Capitol attack, where politically motivated rioters stormed the Congress chambers with little resistance from law enforcement.

These events illustrate how politically motivated conspiracies can be instigated, sometimes funded by foreign governments, and other times through crowdfunding. In Bangladesh, the alleged U.S. and Pakistani ISI backed efforts to unseat the government have been widely reported in local media. Similarly, the attempted storming of the Red Fort in India was a privately funded agitation against the government's move to reform the grain marketing system. It's too early to definitively say how the student protests against the quota system in Bangladesh were financed, but reports suggest U.S. involvement.

India is a diverse nation, rich in language, culture, and religion, where different groups often have little in common. Yet, the country remains united, with approximately 85% of the population sharing the Hindu faith. This unity is what allowed the British to consolidate India from Kashmir to Cape Comorin and from Rajasthan to Assam.

However, political parties often exploit these linguistic and cultural differences to secure votes and assert influence, which is how India's diverse political system functions at both the national and provincial levels. These differences, though, can also be manipulated by hostile foreign powers looking to destabilize India. The "Five Eyes" countries—the U.S., UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand—have identified political vulnerabilities within India, particularly through the Sikh diaspora, to raise the specter of Khalistan. Despite knowing that a landlocked Khalistan, surrounded by hostile neighbors, has no viable future, they continue to use it as a foreign policy tool, with occasional violent incidents keeping the issue in the spotlight.

Recently, a U.S.-sponsored propaganda campaign has emerged in the East, advocating for a homeland for Christian minorities living in the hills. The proposed homeland would include large parts of Bangladesh, a few Indian districts, and much of Myanmar, with access to the sea. In India's state of Manipur, Kuki tribals in two districts have launched an armed insurrection, allegedly with U.S. support. The Christian sponsors in the U.S. draw parallels with the creation of Christian East Timor in the Pacific. The goal appears to be to keep tensions simmering. However, India is not weak and can handle these challenges. The governments of Bangladesh and Myanmar also view this movement as illegitimate and are prepared to suppress it decisively, to the detriment of those involved.

In conclusion, nations with significant diversity, like India, are more susceptible to external exploitation. However, India's common religion, despite foreign attempts to divide it, remains a unifying force. Moreover, the ongoing efforts to rebuild the Indian economy after 200 years of colonial exploitation provide an additional reason for the nation to stay united and resist foreign interference.
They did not come 'dangerously close sir', it did actually happen.
 
I see no harm in it.

After nuking Japan, should they allow Japan to be left alone and develop the nukes for themselves?
Mind you, It is the Japanese the Americans fear the most.

The same is their case with Blacks. They used them as slaves. And when they set them free they made sure they did not have to keep looking behind their shoulders all the time.

They are violent people and know-how violence is utilized to grow and be safe. This is a different paradigm that Indians have no training or understanding.

Just look at India's moral lead-by-example nudging has brought to us. Every day our sons are getting killed at the borders. And to what objective? Just being sitting ducks? Of course, American soldiers also get killed but the context must not be ignored.

We let Pakistan become a nuclear state. We are allowing them to dispute our territories. We allowed Muslims to stay back. The reservation we gave to SC/BC Hindu communities became a thankless liability and a dose of daily insults. The current situation is so tinder-box-like that it can start civil unrest any day.

It is quite clear that we haven't yet understood the power dynamics like how to wield or share it while protecting our interests.

Today we have two nuclear states pointing hundreds of rocket batteries at us. Many of these rockets are nuclear-tipped. Now we have got two Pakistans flanking both sides. Pakistan became a nuclear weapon state uncontested. What kind of 5D chess our policymakers were playing at that time?

The answer is they, did not know what a provocation is.

You can only sense provocation if you are a violent person who has used violence before, without any guilt.

first, we have to let go of the assumption that the adversarial party does not have agency of their own, and we were the victim always.

too many here, but i'll pick one, the paki nulcear one.

let's go thru the sequence which led to pakis focussing on nuclear options, for the benefit of others who are interested.

- paki establishment wanted urdu to be the official language, bengalis rejected it.
- paki establishment almost lost power to mujib in elections, pakjabis responded with violence.
- paki establishment started crack down, which resulted in refugee influx into our border states.
- India which was living ship to mouth for food at that time, was having extra burden on resources to cater for refugees. edit : just started to recover from ship to mouth is a more accurate description.
- India tried raising this issue globally, India's concerns fell on deaf ear in capitals across the world just like these days. by the way liberals were on IG's side in U.S at that time.
- India had no choice but to stem the flow of refugees by going for the root cause i.e genocide of bengalis by pakjabis.
- PM wanted to go in may, IA leadership at that time advised against it citing monsoon.
- IA gets time to plan, instead of being reactionary and jumping head first, decides time and place of choosing, executes their plan.
- with a bit of luck, all wars needs a certain amount of luck, a certain jew called JFR jacob happened to be in right place at the right time, got a pakjabi called niazi to surrender.
- primary objectives having been met, India ended it's military campaign in 14 days, created a new country.
- pakjabis having realised that India can cut them to pieces when ever it wants, started looking for deterrence options, since the uncle SAM and chin weren't dependable in their time of need.
- next year after 71 i.e 72, they started their nuclear program, to protect themselves from India. their PM said, we will eat grass if need be, but we will make a nooclear bomb.

in effect, paki nuclear program is a reaction to india's military action.

these actions and reactions is THE game, options for each country in the equation are not unlimited, they are exist only in the realm of information and resources that is available at that point in time. optimal is picked and countries move forward with it. some yield visible results, some don't.

this also shows how events flow and are interconnected.

our adversaries are as afraid of us too, they do things because we already did something to them , which our civilian commentariat sometimes over estimates or under estimates. but how can we prevent a pig from behaving like a pig. as far as public is concerned, we can just hope that there are right people in right places, and they take the best course of action taking our past, present and future into consideration.
 
India would not have taken any military action even in December..
Of course, that is a strong possibility. All I am saying is that Americans did their homework.

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BTW

Taipan has been served a thread ban for seven days and issued a warning for his comment in the Chit chat thread where he contextualized and denied the genocide of Kashmiri Hindus.​

 
Gaining St Martin as base is just one of the step. Its part of broad dismemberment plan of North East India and Myanmar like East Timor. Chin Kuki invasion in Mizoram and Manipur is inkling towards that. And they are not stopping at that. Please read how fast xtianity(US flavor) is being spread in Arunachal. As an Indian nation we do just in time problem solving we do not do big pocture thinking. Us accelerated its plan because the way GOI first time in decades started investing in NE.

You have to marvel at US move. Any military action we take towards BD will fulfill primary goal of US since start of Ukro Russian war,Club India with Russia in same club. This also gives bonus of dividing Indian Army focus from North to BD border. Thus giving ample room to China+Pak for giving India bloody nose so that India out of fear goes running to US, and acedes to US demands, is forced to look away from what US is doing in India as per NGO and their agendas in India including naturalizing Rohingyas eithin India.

Any action towards Kuki Chin shall again give US via UN to rap about HR.

This is tough compex problem for Modi, much more than what Indira Gandhi faces in 69-71. She had support of Soviet Union. Today we dont have support of any power but on our own.
I often wonder why deep state and USA and all can't spread or try to spread their xtianity in muslim majority countries.
The soviets did a lot for humanity. If today, uzbek, tazikis, turkmenistan is not burning due to jihadism, its because of soviets who crushed radical jihadism.
 
first, we have to let go of the assumption that the adversarial party does not have agency of their own, and we were the victim always.

too many here, but i'll pick one, the paki nulcear one.

let's go thru the sequence which led to pakis focussing on nuclear options, for the benefit of others who are interested.

- paki establishment wanted urdu to be the official language, bengalis rejected it.
- paki establishment almost lost power to mujib in elections, pakjabis responded with violence.
- paki establishment started crack down, which resulted in refugee influx into our border states.
- India which was living ship to mouth for food at that time, was having extra burden on resources to cater for refugees.
- India tried raising this issue globally, India's concerns fell on deaf ear in capitals across the world just like these days. by the way liberals were on IG's side in U.S at that time.
- India had no choice but to stem the flow of refugees by going for the root cause i.e genocide of bengalis by pakjabis.
- PM wanted to go in may, IA leadership at that time advised against it citing monsoon.
- IA gets time to plan, instead of being reactionary and jumping head first, decides time and place of choosing, executes their plan.
- with a bit of luck, all wars needs a certain amount of luck, a certain jew called JFR jacob happened to be in right place at the right time, got a pakjabi called niazi to surrender.
- primary objectives having been met, India ended it's military campaign in 14 days, created a new country.
- pakjabis having realised that India can cut them to pieces when ever it wants, started looking for deterrence options, since the uncle SAM and chin weren't dependable in their time of need.
- next year after 71 i.e 72, they started their nuclear program, to protect themselves from India. their PM said, we will eat grass if need be, but we will make a nooclear bomb.

in effect, paki nuclear program is a reaction to india's military action.

these actions and reactions is THE game, options for each country in the equation are not unlimited, they are exist only in the realm of information and resources that is available at that point in time. optimal is picked and countries move forward with it. some yield visible results, some don't.

this also shows how events flow and are interconnected.

our adversaries are as afraid of us too, they do things because we already did something to them , which our civilian commentariat sometimes over estimates or under estimates. but how can we prevent a pig from behaving like a pig. as far as public is concerned, we can just hope that there are right people in right places, and they take the best course of action taking our past, present and future into consideration.

It is like conflating minimum credible deterrence with a Warfighting nuclear arsenal nation's resolve. Or conflating a state that mechanized its air warfare after establishing Air supremacy with a Raiding Airforce that relies on surprise attack to then fizzle out with objective-meet-deescalation.

To stop the reaction to an offensive action is the whole crux of this debate.
 
I often wonder why deep state and USA and all can't spread or try to spread their xtianity in muslim majority countries.
The soviets did a lot for humanity. If today, uzbek, tazikis, turkmenistan is not burning due to jihadism, its because of soviets who crushed radical jihadism.

even murican bureaucrats and their ecosystem on the ground love their heads to remain attached to their necks, such a threat is posed only by one group.
 
Gaining St Martin as base is just one of the step. Its part of broad dismemberment plan of North East India and Myanmar like East Timor. Chin Kuki invasion in Mizoram and Manipur is inkling towards that. And they are not stopping at that. Please read how fast xtianity(US flavor) is being spread in Arunachal. As an Indian nation we do just in time problem solving we do not do big pocture thinking. Us accelerated its plan because the way GOI first time in decades started investing in NE.

You have to marvel at US move. Any military action we take towards BD will fulfill primary goal of US since start of Ukro Russian war,Club India with Russia in same club. This also gives bonus of dividing Indian Army focus from North to BD border. Thus giving ample room to China+Pak for giving India bloody nose so that India out of fear goes running to US, and acedes to US demands, is forced to look away from what US is doing in India as per NGO and their agendas in India including naturalizing Rohingyas eithin India.

Any action towards Kuki Chin shall again give US via UN to rap about HR.

This is tough compex problem for Modi, much more than what Indira Gandhi faces in 69-71. She had support of Soviet Union. Today we dont have support of any power but on our own.
Give credit to Americans that they always think about logistics before tactics.
 
I often wonder why deep state and USA and all can't spread or try to spread their xtianity in muslim majority countries.
The soviets did a lot for humanity. If today, uzbek, tazikis, turkmenistan is not burning due to jihadism, its because of soviets who crushed radical jihadism.

US Gov has goals and interests, it uses Islam, Xtianity, Communism as tools to get those goals.
 
It is like conflating minimum credible deterrence with a Warfighting nuclear arsenal nation's resolve. Or conflating a state that mechanized its air warfare after establishing Air supremacy with a Raiding Airforce that relies on surprise attack to then fizzle out with objective-meet-deescalation.

To stop the reaction to an offensive action is the whole crux of this debate.

obviously i cannot give a definitive answer, can only comment.

even if there is a plan, we the public are not on need to know basis.
realistically, no security establishment can plan for every contingency, all of them have a resource issue.

we can speculate, that what civilians consider as unacceptable, security establishment's inputs and institutional memory is reading it as something else. just look around, how unstable our region and the world is right now. there are many forces within and outside, who want us to be unstable so that their preferred people can grab power.

in case you have noticed, up until russia invaded ukraine, our military commentary in public sphere was based on the assumption that future wars are going to be short and sharp. from last year, commentary is that wars are going to be long. so the assumptions and variables keep changing.

that being said, i am sure there is always a need for good realistic implementable plans to remedy the situation. good plans are hard to come by.
 
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