Chinese Air Force

[darkflame]

View: https://x.com/Hurin92/status/1872198113680842991

 

[darkflame]

View: https://x.com/Hurin92/status/1872200804255592920

 

[Ayan Barat]

Slightly better pic/angle

 

[narasimh]

If this doesn't set the collective pants of IAF, HAL, DRDO and MoD on fire, I don't know what will. The Chinese will have this thing enter service before AMCA even starts serial production.
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This will set Pentagon's ears straight up too.. let's see if they have a problem with s400 for the sale of F-35 now

 

[Bhartiya Sainik]

Ye kya ladege chutiye inse dalali bas karwa lo.

View: https://x.com/AmanKashyap89/status/1872206944091705662?t=8npzL1MQmwGggNpYoM6jwg&s=19

Some already known specs of what they have been studying:

 

[rockdog]

Pic fron some old article

 

[Bhartiya Sainik]

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> Fuselage & IWB seems wider than F-22, J-20.
> Double wheel main landing gear like MiG-31.
> 3 pairs of Flaperons & 2 pairs split-aelerons??!!
> 2 intakes below & 1 intake on top??!! Hmm!! 3 engines jet????? 3rd one is Ramjet in middle?
> USA created so many X & Y series of Experimental & Prototype jets for study. So i wouldn't be surprised if China just wants to study airframe design & flight characteristics by this kind of jet. May be China wants USA to force reveal their NGAD prototype.

 

[rockdog]

Article in 2023.01.19，a normal PR article of small research institution from AVIC group, and nobody cared about it.

Now somebody digged it out.

The title is: Is the 6th gen bigger than J20? How to make it take off from AC?

 

[VictorDelta4]

Ye kya ladege chutiye inse dalali bas karwa lo.

View: https://x.com/AmanKashyap89/status/1872206944091705662?t=8npzL1MQmwGggNpYoM6jwg&s=19

 

[rockdog]

Interview of J20 chief desgienr in 2023, he is also the boss of this one


Yang Wei's speech on Chinese 5th, 6th Gen fighters


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpmIsyfvKOc


In early March 2023, Yang Wei, the chief designer of the J-20, revealed for the first time in an interview with CCTV the positioning of China's future sixth generation aircraft. While everyone was still immersed in the news of the US sixth generation aircraft, the chief engineer's words undoubtedly gave us a shot of stability.

Regarding the sixth generation aircraft, Chief Engineer Yang Wei emphasized three key points. Firstly, it can undergo deformation according to changes in flight altitude and space.

Let's watch this video. This is the world's first officially commissioned variable sweep wing fighter F111, as well as the upgraded MiG-23 based on the MiG21, which also adopts a variable wing design. Fighter jets with this design can instantly increase cruise lift when the wings are extended at small angles. This design is a variation of fighter jets.

The deformation of the sixth generation aircraft is a complete change in the shape of the entire fuselage and the external aerodynamic layout, which is much more complex than simple variable sweep wings.

The second point defined by the chief engineer for the sixth generation aircraft is the ability to break through traditional space and conduct trans atmospheric warfare, such as space or suborbital bombing operations.

The current fourth and fifth generation fighter jets are only suitable for aerial combat in dense atmospheres below 30000 meters due to their use of turbofans or turbojet engines.

In July 2022, the "Feitian-1" rocket ramjet combined power developed by the Aerospace Combined Power Team of Northwestern Polytechnical University was successfully launched from a base in Northwest China. This is a kerosene fuel rocket ramjet combined cycle engine that can operate in sub combustion mode at 4 to 5 times the speed of sound and supersonic mode at 5 to 6 times the speed of sound. Once mature, this engine will enable fighter jets to directly enter the hypersonic field.

 

[rockdog]

View: https://x.com/Hurin92/status/1872250065072570389?t=uABBpG8Bqx2nuhz3LDNhQw&s=19

 

[Vinod Patter]

Now IAF is almost two generations behind PLAAF in technology.

 

[helin]

View: https://x.com/DailyD1ss1dent/status/1872254293220479361

 

[Ginvincible]

Now IAF is almost two generations behind PLAAF in technology.

Only 2 generations behind China?

India is barely able to make a handful of 4th gen Tejas Mk1 to replace Mig-21s. That too by relying heavily on imported parts.

China is mass manufacturing 5th gen fighters and flying multiple 6th gen prototypes with an entirely domestic ecosystem.

It's not even close.

 

[rockdog]

View: https://x.com/RupprechtDeino/status/1872260375607205925?t=kggvHhLBIJ0b5ehmYK0uLw&s=19

Three engines? some said middle one will be different for higher space than 20000M.

 

[narasimh]

View: https://x.com/RupprechtDeino/status/1872260375607205925?t=kggvHhLBIJ0b5ehmYK0uLw&s=19

Three engines? some said middle one will be different for higher space than 20000M.

Dang! 3 engines! Never thought will see a real life Turbokat!

 

[Bhartiya Sainik]

View: https://x.com/RupprechtDeino/status/1872260375607205925?t=kggvHhLBIJ0b5ehmYK0uLw&s=19

Three engines? some said middle one will be different for higher space than 20000M.

The upper intake is likely for middle engine. It could be regular engine or a Ramjet or hybrid.

 

[helin]

China Stuns With Heavy Stealth Tactical Jet’s Sudden Appearance

This is the most advanced flying machine we have seen out of China, lacking any tails and packing stealth and long range. This is the most advanced flying machine we have seen out of China, lacking any tails and packing stealth and long range.

www.twz.com

 

[shauryaman65]

 

[E-195]

Only 2 generations behind China?

India is barely able to make a handful of 4th gen Tejas Mk1 to replace Mig-21s. That too by relying heavily on imported parts.

China is mass manufacturing 5th gen fighters and flying multiple 6th gen prototypes with an entirely domestic ecosystem.

It's not even close.

6th generations fighter are bigger but bigger means more heavy, more heavy means less agile add they lack many vertical surfaces, the best way to beat them are radars.
IAF needs to be aware BRICS is a joke, I see China selling weapons to Pakistan, with an ally like that who needs enemies.

The Chinese Machine also if it is real uses 3 engines, what suggest weak engines.



Boom supersonic uses 3 engines because its engines are J-85 in few words weak old engines.

More engines more fuel, more fuel more size more size heavier heavier less agile, add no vertical surfaces and you can see something that might fly at Mach 2 but not very likely at Mach 3 simply like that.

XB-1 flight



consider XB-1 has a huge vertical tail and two horizontal tails.


very fast aircraft need large vertical tails like X-15

For the Chinese machine even the third engine is for electricity generation has made a huge cross section, time will tell if this thing is real, but is not a game changer weapon, WMD are more important.

Add a third engine with a dorsal intake has high probability of losing air flow at high AoA