Chinese Air Force

[randombully]

west pilot in china : do you really imagine they give all their knowledge? Don't you think some of them were trained to give wrong datas by secret services ?

That's a nice conspiracy, but na.
Retired western pilots are first hired by a aviation agency in south africa then that agency assigns them countries which happens to be just china,
It was a major humiliation for uk, when a pic came out of pilot landing after ejecting from a trainer jet in china and that pilot was retired RAF.

 

[Blademaster]

You forget 1991, against irak. USA (and some weak allies as France, with the sole exception of GB) smashed iraki forces in 48 hours, 10.000 km away of US mainland....
See the difference between the US mastery in 1991 and how russia is engulfed in ukraine...

China last "serious" fight was against the brother USSR.... so many time ag. They lack of real practice.

west pilot in china : do you really imagine they give all their knowledge? Don't you think some of them were trained to give wrong datas by secret services ?

Ha ha please. Ukraine was heavily supported by western nations and Russia did smash all the way to Kiev and overran 1/4 of Ukrainian territory, which was like 3 or 4 times the size of Kuwait. Iraq never received the level of support that Ukraine got or the real time intel that allowed Ukrainian troops to escape traps or lay down ambushes that would stall Russian advances.

Apples to oranges.